Thursday, 13 September 2012

9/11: A further thought


Also interesting is that the real story of 9/11 was pretty much accurately reported the actual day of 9/11. Dan Rather patiently explained to everyone, live on CBS News, that we were watching a controlled demolition. Another reporter standing in front of the Pentagon said he didn’t see any evidence of an airliner having crashed, live on TV. 

Witnesses at the scene in Pennsylvania immediately contradicted the official story, again, live on TV.The story of the Israelis caught with a truck containing traces of explosives was broadcast the day of 9/11, complete with quotes from the police officials that caught them. World Trade Center 7 was announced destroyed hours before it actually was. San Francisco mayor Willie Brown said he was warned to not fly the day before, and announced as much on 9/11. Dozens of people who had escaped the WTC were on live TV telling people about secondary explosions, bombs going off in the basement, and even how they overheard the countdown to the demolition of WTC7.

But within two days, all these stories – which had just been broadcast on live TV – just went down the memory hole, and even though there are hours and hours of this footage publicly available online, with millions and millions of people commenting on it, we still have the usual suspects ignoring this massive amount of evidence, and pretending that anyone mentioning this evidence is engaged in “conspiracy theories” or “in denial.”

The facts are no longer in dispute, as if they ever really were. The real question now is the motivations of those people still denying the evidence. I think we have a fair idea.


91 comments:

Kruger said...

All too true Savant. The whores in the media are working hard for their masters.

invisible man said...

Id just like to say you're an anti semite for noticing that, Savant! ;-)

Have you seen A Noble Lie,about the Oklahoma City bombing? I believed that lie as well, back in the day.

+ + +

slavestar said...

I wonder what will be the next move? Will the Israelis nuke an East coast city in the U.S. (after all the jews have mysteriously left, of course)and the media blame it on Iran?

Uncle Nasty said...

And, as I have said before, we will get nowhere until we are as much a threat to the lying media as they are to us.

If we can't control them legally, well ... I, once again, recommend you read the Covington books.

Television continuity announcers rely on their immaculate appearances ... the perfectly capped teeth, the blow-dried hair.

Why do you think one of the first acts of the UK after WWII was to stand William Joyce to trial and execute him with almost indecent haste?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Joyce

Then there was the treatment of Iva Toguri D'Aquino ... better known as Tokyo Rose She was fined $10,000 and given a 10-year prison sentence, with Toguri's attorney Collins lambasting the verdict as "Guilty without evidence".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iva_Toguri_D'Aquino#Treason_trial

It's rather surprising that the US govt didn't simply hang her, anyway. Fuck, the jews were hanging everyone else they could lay their hands on.

UN
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Anonymous said...

http://age-of-treason.blogspot.com/2012/02/six-million-holocausts.html

Don Heddesheimer
The First Holocaust
Jewish Fund Raising Campaigns
with Holocaust Claims
During and After World War One

http://snippits-and-slappits.blogspot.com/2012/03/six-million-myth.html

Anonymous said...

There was no truck bomb. There were three men arrested in a van which contained no explosives. There was no reason to think that they were Israelis.

I was in London on 911. There were initial reports that Canary Wharf had also been hit. It must have been hit because it was reported, right? But later in the day I had a look and not only had they magically rebuilt the whole of Canary Wharf but they had also brought back to life all the people who had been killed when the buildings were attacked.

The power of the Jews.

Uncle Nasty said...

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Something that the PTB cannot get their alleged minds around ... video is forever.

http://www.libertylobby.org/articles/1997/19970609coverup.html

A quote:-

WHERE'D THEY GO?

The first section of Cover-Up is loaded with television footage from the scene April 19. Reporters were told 1,200 pounds of explosive were in the bomb that exploded. Officials said the bombing had to have been carried out by an explosives expert. They called the bomb a "sophisticated device" planted by a "sophisticated group."

TV cameras in Oklahoma city on April 19, 1995 showed repeated shots of the sheriff's Department bomb squad vehicles and made comments about "the busy day" they had had. Other shots showed the little white trucks entering the rubble to take out the second bomb.

Next, federal authorities confirmed a second bomb -- larger that the first -- was discovered, undetonated, according to multiple news reports. Later, a third bomb, also larger than the bomb that cut the guts out of the building was found undetonated.

"Why was this information suppressed?" the video asks. "Why was the media kept out: Did feds remove the surveillance cameras?"

Later Oklahoma television cameras focused on terrorist expert Fandall Heather. He said the undetonated bombs would point authorities to whoever planted the bombs. So what happened to the other bombs?

Within about five hours, the official story had changed completely. The federal government suddenly claimed a care loaded with 1,200 pounds of explosives was responsible. The story later changed to a truck with fertilizer and fuel.


and some more:-

http://www.newsmakingnews.com/tgokc.htm

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/ok.php

Not wanting to sound like a cynic, it's safest to assume that eveything you are told -- everything -- is a lie.

Read the story of Arlen Specter's "Magic Bullet."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlen_Specter

UN
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katana said...

> Savant
Thursday, 13 September 2012

But within two days, all these stories – which had just been broadcast on live TV – just went down the memory hole, and even though there are hours and hours of this footage publicly available online, with millions and millions of people commenting on it, we still have the usual suspects ignoring this massive amount of evidence, and pretending that anyone mentioning this evidence is engaged in “conspiracy theories” or “in denial.”

The facts are no longer in dispute, as if they ever really were. The real question now is the motivations of those people still denying the evidence. I think we have a fair idea.
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Their motivation to deny the evidence is the same that the Mafia has in denying its crimes.

But there is also another group of people who want to deny the evidence, namely the masses of Whites who are 'fat, dumb and happy' and desiring to maintain the status quo. Admitting the plain facts of 911 would open a can of worms that would turn their world upside down.

So we have the guilty, jews and collaborators, and their ultimate targets, Whites, in a kind of united purpose to deny the squirming facts of 911.

Admitting that your government is under the control of psychopaths who killed three thousand Americans openly and obviously, to instigate much greater killing, is just too much to contemplate.

That's all the more reason why such events as 911 need to be told to as many people as possible, so that the facts can no longer be denied.

Failure to do so will encourage the criminals to eventually crush us. Take your pick, comfortable denial now and eventual slavery later, or uncomfortable resistance now and eventual freedom. The clock is ticking.

Anonymous said...

Another reporter standing in front of the Pentagon said he didn’t see any evidence of an airliner having crashed, live on TV.

The CNN guy said the Pentagon was hit by a truck bomb. Easy enough to mistake with a jetliner.

Ogwambi Rastus O'Flaherty said...

If Korea had attacked on 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgH5W5xqlso

Robert in Arabia said...

Twitter, Facebook and Youtube now blocked in the Kingdom

Uncle Nasty said...

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... aaaaand just to cheer you up:

http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/

This Is Your Final Warning: The Worst Financial Disaster In 500 Years Is Nigh

Posted on September 14, 2012

My Debt Cancellation hero is Professor Steve Keen of Australia.

He said in a recent video
1) We have the greatest level of debt to GDP to cancel in 500 years which means we are approaching the greatest Depression in 500 years. That means the greatest levels of Austerity unemployment, wage cuts, defaults, bankruptcies and starvation in 500 years in Europe, North America and the rest of the world. Of course if we followed Dr Keen’s advice on Debt Cancellation we know for a certainty: ‘This need not be.’

2) The nations which have been deindustrialized (emphasis on America) will face the hardest landing when debts are cancelled and we are forced to face reality. He said he feared for the fate of those people in deindustrialized nations when the paper Bubble is pierced.

American deindustrialization began in 1994 with the passage of the North American Free Trade Act. The Federal Reserve has just announced it will begin or really continue buying up fraudulent Mortgage Backed Securities. This will free up cash for the banks to drive up food prices by buying even more commodities in the futures markets. Foreigners will realize our current inflation will accelerate and rise rapidly after the elections. The real inflation rate is 10% but will go higher as the dumping of the dollar accelerates. Investors are buying gold and silver. The dollar has declined in value which makes imports including oil more expensive. China simultaneously announced that they will trade for oil in yuan. Henry Kissinger invented the Petrodollar after th1973 Arab-Israeli war. America needed wars and rumors of ward in the Mideast to spike oil prices higher. Higher oil prices were good for the dollar because OPEC took all those excess dollars they earned to buy US Treasury bonds. The Japanese and the Chinese who have no oil ran huge trade surpluses with America which they used to buy oil. And all those Petrodollars were forwarded to Washington to fund America’s wars for Israel.

The Petrodollar is near death. I recently wrote that the Chinese are buying gold as if they knew the dollar would die very soon. Consider this fact.

The FED is starting to accelerate inflation from a 10% base which will severely punish anyone holding dollars. And with the Federal Reserve announcing they will keep interest rates low through 2015 we know the dollar will decline rapidly.
Who would buy a Treasury bond paying 3% interest when he reads that the inflation rate has just reached 15%?


UN
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Anonymous said...

"Who would buy a Treasury bond paying 3% interest when he reads that the inflation rate has just reached 15%?"

Uh, the Federal Reserve, of course. It will print and loan out more of it's interest bearing debt counterfeit currency to buy the bonds. The US government will then have to pay that back to the Fed plus interest, by raising more taxes, tightening the chains of slavery upon the masses.

It is for this system that various US Presidents who wanted to issue a debt free US currency were shot, and for which WW2 was fought by the stupid goyim, to enslave themselves.

And in the midst of all this, for every single citizen in the USA, every year, $30,000 is extracted and sent to Israel. It doesn't matter if you can't afford it. It is added to your national debt, which must be repaid, plus interest, to... the Federal Reserve.

The Federal Reserve is a cartel of international Jewish central banks.

They killed Kennedy for trying to dissolve the Federal Reserve counterfeit dollar and bring in a silver backed dollar as per the Constitution. And the same criminals orchestrated 911.

$30,000 per US citizen, per year, sent to make Jews' life in Israel more comfortable. Not to mention what they extract from Germany for the HolyHoax annually.

Red pill or blue pill?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqM91OsthFo

SAJ

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Anonymous 08:37

"for every single citizen in the USA, every year, $30,000 is extracted and sent to Israel"

311,591,917 people multiplied by $30,000 = $9,347,757,510,000.

That's over $9 trillion dollars per year, or 62$ of US GDP.

It's funny, because apparently anyone who believes 'official versions' is a sheep. And yet this anonymous believes that the US sends 62% of its GDP per year to Israel.

Savant, how proud you must be to have attracted people like this to your website. The credibility is crumbling away.

justme said...

Katana, are you aware that there's a whole field of psychology which focuses on why people will not face up to unpleasant truths, even when confronted with overwhelming evidence?

awakened said...

UN, if the petrodollar goes, with it goes Black Run America. The EBT card won't work anymore, while Whites will be faced with a catastrophic drop in their standard of living. Net effect? The current rotten structure starts to crumble. All the unasked questions will be asked. With a vengeance. I'll get fucked in the tsunami as well but I reckon it's worth it.

Anonymous said...

The crash will happen,no doubt about that,but,I feel,not quite yet.The printing presses have more work to do yet.

And,by the way,don't I wish I had bought shares in the company which provides the paper(actually a form of cloth)to the US Treasury,or whoever does the printing.

We will all be hit in the crash,some more than others,but its a pain which I too am willing to bear.

Not that any of us will have much choice in the matter.

mr.a

katana said...

justme said...
Katana, are you aware that there's a whole field of psychology which focuses on why people will not face up to unpleasant truths, even when confronted with overwhelming evidence?
15 September 2012 10:22
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Thanks, and yes, they first located it in ancient Egypt I believe …

But denial can be overcome. Enough exposure to facts combined with commonsense and a sensible explanation of how they have been mislead can change minds. The key point is 'enough exposure'.

So we are back to spreading the 'word' however we can. And that will be sufficient.

Martel said...

mr. a. agreed the printing presses have much work to do. But if the dollar loses its reserve currency status it will make not too much difference to the average American, even in the short term.

In the long run of courseit will only make things far worse. And then Whites will - I hope - finally wake up.

Anonymous said...

Your short 5 minute history lesson on Jews, Communism, Socialism... Video

Julian said...

Just to be clear here, are Jews the arch-capitalists (bankers etc.) or arch Communists? Can get confusing on this blog sometimes.

Lupus said...

@ Julian

A little bit of both isn't, the 'arch-capitalists' financed the Bolsheviks. quite whether it was all part of a master plan or things took on a life of their own, is the question...

Here's an interestin interview with Oleg Deripaska. The Euro isn't going to collapse, America's debt isn't a problem, the dollar isn't going to decline and Asia needs Russia. Deripaska is very confident; is he telling the 'truth' or does he speak with forked tongue? He is a friend of the Rothschilds...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k4jeNWJQp0

Anonymous said...

I do remember that a very short. not repeated video , of a small group ,of what looked like the usual suspects on a flat roof with a camera on a tripod pointing at the WTC .At this time no indication of the coming disaster.
several examination trips were made
up to and during the disaster.
This was brushed aside as the occupants of premises not available!
Does anyone else remember this seeing this vid?
Sites such as this have given me my self confidence back.
incogfortoday

Shaunantijihad said...

Nastiest Uncle said...
@Anonymous 08:37

"for every single citizen in the USA, every year, $30,000 is extracted and sent to Israel"

311,591,917 people multiplied by $30,000 = $9,347,757,510,000.

That's over $9 trillion dollars per year, or 62$ of US GDP.

"It's funny, because apparently anyone who believes 'official versions' is a sheep. And yet this anonymous believes that the US sends 62% of its GDP per year to Israel.

Savant, how proud you must be to have attracted people like this to your website. The credibility is crumbling away."

No boy, it's not funny. Neither is 911. The last atrocity the Jews will commit, if the white race awakens to your inveterate evil.

It's not a game. Despite Americans paying ever higher taxes to pay down the growing national debt, the Jew money debt Mafia piles it ever higher. I did notice you didn't mention I was quoting former US Congressman Jim Traficant.

Hey Savant, it seems quoting US Congressman damages your credibility. Your almost as crazy as Greta Van Susteren! But never mind the debt "conspiracy"... let's just keep attention away from the overwhelming evidence that Jews committed 911. Because that is what this new poster is all about. Stick to 911, and the truth of the Jews and Communism/Bolshevism, the central banking scam, and the destruction of the white race via mass immigration will follow.

Greta Van Susteren's "credibility" interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0scNGzWfv8A

Nastiest Uncle's debt conspiracy: http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Actually, the real debt of the USA is in truth hidden by it's artificially low inflation rate. If it were not necessary to buy the counterfeit Fed dollar to purchase commodities, especially oil, the US inflation rate would go Weimar, and the reality of the $30,000 per person for Israel would be priced in and the $ value would reflect that, i.e. near zero value. But this is a distraction. The Jews will continue the extortion of Germany for the HolyHoax if America's $ value collapses. But 911 is the smoking gun.

911 is the smoking gun.

Jim Traficant is an American Hero. I guess you are on the opposing side Nastiest boy.

The truth will out said...

Clearly Julian has an unquenchable thirst for knowledge if not perhaps more accurately designs on derailment.

Have a listen to the late great Dr William Pierce help explain Jews, their part in attempts at our downfall via democracy and communism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gntw4FU9M3Y

This should put you right.

These William pierce videos are fantastic, also a little like whack-a-mole, they get put online, the jewish hasbarats get them taken offline, then back up again...so it goes on.

Yet youtube refuse to remove that shocking video creating agitation in the middle east, yes juwes really are an unforgivably demonic entity.

Anyway, back on track regarding 911, Deanna Spingola explains how the 911 truth movement, as Lenin stated said they must control both sides of any issue in order to control the outcome (e.g Zio-Romney Vs Zio-Obama).

Gatekeeping in the 9/11 Truth movement?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrLXroEZ8Ko

Anonymous said...

Just to be clear here, are Jews the arch-capitalists (bankers etc.) or arch Communists?

Arch-capitalist with regard to goyim, arch-communist with regard to each other.

Ken said...

Julian said...
Just to be clear here, are Jews the arch-capitalists (bankers etc.) or arch Communists? Can get confusing on this blog sometimes.

15 September 2012 18:52


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They are over-represented among bankers and among communists. It's not a contradiction if you view capitalism and communism as just different means of obtaining power rather than ends in themselves. Mikail Bakunin made this point back in the 19th century:

Now this entire Jewish world, which constitutes an exploiting sect, a people of leeches, a voracious parasite, closely and intimately connected with another, regardless not only of frontiers but of political differences as well -- this Jewish world is today largely at the disposal of Marx or Rothschild. I am sure that, on the one hand, the Rothschilds appreciate the merits of Marx, and that on the other hand, Marx feels an instinctive inclination and a great respect for the Rothschilds. This may seem strange. What could there be in common between communism and high finance? Ho ho! The communism of Marx seeks a strong state centralization, and where this exists, there the parasitic Jewish nation -- which speculates upon the labor of people -- will always find the means for its existence .... In reality, this would be for the proletariat a barrack-regime, under which the workingmen and the workingwomen, converted into a uniform mass, would rise, fall asleep, work, and live at the beat of the drum. The privilege of ruling would be in the hands of the skilled and the learned, with a wide scope left for profitable crooked deals carried on by the Jews, who would be attracted by the enormous extension of the international speculations of the national banks.

Big bill said...

They are both, Julian. Just as whites were both arch capitalists and arch Communists all over Africa. What unites them is a common fear of white goyim.

treatytrevor said...

anon 19.34 I do remember that a very short. not repeated video , of a small group ,of what looked like the usual suspects on a flat roof with a camera on a tripod pointing at the WTC

This was the (in)famous 'dancing Israelis' incident. IOn fact, amazingly, they appeared on Israeli TV and admitted, in Hebrew, that they had been there 'to document the event'.]

Easily found on Youtube.

Nastiest Uncle said...

Ken

"They are over-represented among bankers and among communists."

They are also over-represented in the fields of medicine, law, high-tech, scientific research, Nobel Prize winners, computing and engineering.

Something to do with a dedication to education and a can-do attitude.

I think we should get really jealous and blame all of our problems on them.

Boris O'Caine said...

Perhaps it might assist if I suggest that we understand the Jewish world aim as encompassing the complete annihilation of the Gentile world, including most especially the annihilation of the Gentile worlds finest examples, whom the Greeks once described as "wild, free, brave, generous-hearted, blond, blue-eyed people"---Nordics, good reader; Nordics. The aim of marxism is to bring about that grand annihilation---the aim of finance speculative capitalism is the same. If one has therefore proxies who, properly financed, can bring down to utter ruin the whole nordic-derived aristocratic order in Russia, why would you not work with them? The connection might seem a little surprising when first encountered but, on reflection, becomes quite clear.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@shawnantijihad

"No boy, it's not funny. Neither is 911. The last atrocity the Jews will commit, if the white race awakens to your inveterate evil.

It's not a game. Despite Americans paying ever higher taxes to pay down the growing national debt, the Jew money debt Mafia piles it ever higher. I did notice you didn't mention I was quoting former US Congressman Jim Traficant.

Hey Savant, it seems quoting US Congressman damages your credibility. Your almost as crazy as Greta Van Susteren! But never mind the debt "conspiracy"... let's just keep attention away from the overwhelming evidence that Jews committed 911. Because that is what this new poster is all about. Stick to 911, and the truth of the Jews and Communism/Bolshevism, the central banking scam, and the destruction of the white race via mass immigration will follow.

Greta Van Susteren's "credibility" interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0scNGzWfv8A

Nastiest Uncle's debt conspiracy: http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Actually, the real debt of the USA is in truth hidden by it's artificially low inflation rate. If it were not necessary to buy the counterfeit Fed dollar to purchase commodities, especially oil, the US inflation rate would go Weimar, and the reality of the $30,000 per person for Israel would be priced in and the $ value would reflect that, i.e. near zero value. But this is a distraction. The Jews will continue the extortion of Germany for the HolyHoax if America's $ value collapses. But 911 is the smoking gun.

911 is the smoking gun.

Jim Traficant is an American Hero. I guess you are on the opposing side Nastiest boy."

You are standing by your $9 trillion per year of aid to Israel goof. You are insane.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@treatytrevor

"they appeared on Israeli TV and admitted, in Hebrew, that they had been there 'to document the event'."

So, a bunch of Mossad agents who were on a secret mission to the US to film the 911 attacks went on TV afterwards to tell the world about what they had been doing?

Do you just believe everything you read without even a hint of skepticism?
I'd be really interested in trying to understand the kind of mindset that a person must have in order to be so downright gullible.

I just find it remarkable. It's like when I used to visit the Islamic forums back in the day and the Muslims there would absolutely believe without question reports of Mujahidin on the backs of flying horses sweeping down to kill US soldiers. Once, someone reported that a single sword-wielding jihadi singlehandedly took out an entire US battlegroup, tanks and all. There was one Muslim who said 'come on chaps, this is a bit far fetched' and he was immediate dismissed as a Jew and kafir. The similarity between here and there is quite apparent.

Can you confirm that this is how your mind works:

Hate Jews >> believe everything which makes Jews look bad >> the end.

I'd be interested to know.

Anonymous said...

Nastiest Uncle. You really are sadly misinformed. Here's the link to the Mossad guys being interviewed on Israeli TV. And yes, I got it translated myself and the translation faithfully represents the one on the vidoe.

Over to you troll...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw

Ken said...

I remember when Tanstaafl at the Age-Of-Treason blog started discussing the jewish question, his normally quiet blog suddenly attracted a bunch of jewish dissimulators. The following thread is really quite illuminating (see colin laney's comments in particular)-
http://age-of-treason.blogspot.co.uk/2007/11/white-nationalism-and-anti-semitism.html

Thankfully for Tanstaafl's blog, the jewish propagandists soon moved on, knowing that their dissimulation was not going to work. Hopefully, the same thing will soon happen here.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Anonymous 00:14

"Nastiest Uncle. You really are sadly misinformed."

Unfortunately for you, I am not.

"Here's the link to the Mossad guys being interviewed on Israeli TV."

Well they weren't Mossad guys actually, were they.

"And yes, I got it translated myself"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"and the translation faithfully represents the one on the vidoe."

Apparently not. Apparently, the translation in the video does not translate the tense correctly. The man actually says "we were there SO we documented the event."

"Over to you troll..."

Over to you, you some other type of mythical creature from Norse folklore.

"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAScsOmbivk

See you later.

Anonymous said...

Notice how the Jew focuses like a laser on a small misstatement in an extemporaneous speech and tries to make a federal case of it.

Notice also how the Jew in this case does not state what the speaker obviously intended.

The reason for this omission is that the correction also does not reflect well upon the Jews.

What the speaker meant to say of course was "$30k for every man woman and child in Israel."

Nastiest Jew said...

Nastiest Jew is a great name! Truth is, they are incapable of greatness, only doing their father satan's work. They're hideous, hunchback trolls, chosen by lucifer, not Christ.

The curls hasidic (real)jews wear are tribute to leviathan, the serpent, like in the garden of eden, the devil.

Their bible the jew written Babylonian Talmud says Jesus was a magician, mary a whore, jesus copulated with an ass, etc etc. It says jew witches resurrected him and murdered him several hideous ways, and he's boiling in excrement in hell.

That's the tip of the iceburg. Everybody should know how Jews despise Christ and Christians.

Filthiest Jew said...

Its counter productive to ever argue with kikes. They, like muds, cannot change what they are, so it's pointless, except to familiarize people with their obnoxiousness.

Anonymous said...

Savant,

Re the Hasbarats

I’ve posted a couple of your posts – in particular the excellent “A Solution - at last!” (link below) – on the Daily Telegraph comments section which may explain why your blog is being flooded with comments from the likes of “Nastiest Uncle”, “onthefence” and various other “anonymous” Hasbarats.

Comments on the Daily Telegraph aren’t pre-moderated so you can keep posting comments and links until the Hasbarats notify the moderator. Articles relating to Israel, Jews Iran, Muslims, and the BNP are riddled with Hasbara (you can just picture the scene with the Hasbarats franticly clicking the “report” button on any comment critical of Jews). When you finally get banned from commenting, you just sign up for a new email address (malinator.com) and a new Disqus account (takes about 5 minutes) and off you go again! Must infuriate ‘em!

I reckon the reason the Daily Telegraph don’t pre-moderate comments (for now at least) is that the PTB are testing the climate with regard to public opinion – a sort of ‘100 Flowers Campaign’.

Frank Galton

Shaunantijihad: A ‘Solution’ - at last!
http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/shatter-watch-brilliant-suggestion.html

X said...

Oy vay!

NU does seem upset with Savant's blog, or at least some of the commenters.

I do like the idea of trusting the word of a US Congressman...really!

Shaunantijihad said...

"You are standing by your $9 trillion per year of aid to Israel goof. You are insane."

According to this Hasbarat, quoting a US Congressman requires treatment for insanity. Heard that before in the USSR. Does Traficant annoy you for saving an innocent man from being murdered by Israel? Does it get up your goat that he stood up to the Jewish vermin who wanted to murder an innocent man? I bet it does.

Whether Traficant has his numbers wrong is as unknown to me as it is to you, but he was a US Congressman. Were you? Were you unlawfully imprisoned for revealing the real cost of all aid to Israel? No. Traficant was. Have the Jews ever robbed a country of the majority of it's GDP before? Germany. Russia. Romania. Poland. etc etc the whole Soviet Union.

But anyone, including US Congressmen with inside knowledge not available to us ordinary folk, who suggest the Jews are plundering another country, why, they must be insane. As I said, when the full cost of the plundering, not of the GDP directly, but of the value of the $ itself is fully revealed in all its Weimar glory, gold will be priced at perhaps $70,000 an ounce. Wheelbarrows full of noted to buy bread? Na, that could never happen. Just think of all those Jewish doctors and nurses who strive to help humanity instead.

911 is the smoking gun. This is the issue that must reach the US military. Send the videos to your friends, post it on US military website

Kevin R. said...

Well, this guy who said they 'were there to document the event' got it totally wrong.

Nastiest Uncle tells us the translation in the video does not translate the tense correctly. The man actually says "we were there SO we documented the event."

Yes, that makes all the difference, I agree. And it was just total coincidence that Mossad agents were strategically poised on the bridge, cameras mounted on tripods and focused the WTC. And their jumping and cheering when the planes hit was, well, natural exuberance at such things.

So it looks like we were wrong on this. And, Nastiest, if you have any good bridges for sale in London I'd be very interested.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Shaunantijihad 09:47

"According to this Hasbarat, quoting a US Congressman requires treatment for insanity."

You still don't get it.

You have chosen someone who shares your prejudice and have therefore decided to believe absolutely anything they say, regardless of how ridiculous it is. That shows your insanity.

Even though US federal tax revenues were only $2.3 trillion in 2011, apparently they found a way to give $9 trillion to Israel, and all of this made it past your bullshit detector without even a hint of the alarm going off. This is why you are insane.

So, why does this bother me? Why am I defending these Jews?

Well, the Jewish aspect to all of this is incidental. If you were making the same claims about any other group, I'd still be calling you out.

What bothers me is that if we are to ever sort out our countries (by stopping and reversing immigration) then we are going to need some kind of movement which the public can get behind, but the presence of people like you is making sure that no-one will ever take us seriously. This is because you, and people like you, are dishonest, gullible, unintelligent and insane.

So I'm here to fact-check the general bullshit which gets passed off as truth in the hope that people will start doing the same.

So it's going to go one of two ways. Either people will learn to love their own countries more than they hate the Jews in which case we can make some progress, or people will not, in which case the problems affecting our countries are going to continue.

SAVANT said...

@Frank Galton. What article on the DT did you post the coment? I ask because I have, over the years, posted some links, which were promptly taken down and in short order I was banned, or at least appeared to be. Anyway, keep up the good work.

And by the way, I have no problem with counter-arguments here. Because unlike so many of our opponents I am actually searching for the truth and as such am open to opposite views, even when obviously tendentious.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Kevin R 10:44

"And it was just total coincidence that Mossad agents were strategically poised on the bridge"

What Mossad agents on the bridge? The Israeli men arrested were not Mossad agents nor were they arrested on a bridge. They were on the roof of an apartment complex.

"cameras mounted on tripods and focused the WTC."

Thousands of people pointed their cameras at the WTC that day after the first plane hit. Why are you focusing only on these men?

"And their jumping and cheering when the planes hit was, well, natural exuberance at such things."

The men did not see the first plane hit. Like most people, they began taking pictures when they saw the smoke. And they denied that they were happy or laughing, not that being happy about the attacks has any bearing on whether someone knew that they were going to happen. Were the dancing Palestinians also in on it?

I was jumping up and down in front of my TV whilst watching events unfold that day. Does that mean I was happy, or shocked and outraged?

See you later.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Anonymous 02:08

"Notice how the Jew [sic] focuses like a laser on a small misstatement in an extemporaneous speech and tries to make a federal case of it. Notice also how the Jew in this case does not state what the speaker obviously intended. The reason for this omission is that the correction also does not reflect well upon the Jews. What the speaker meant to say of course was "$30k for every man woman and child in Israel."

No one knows what the speaker 'obviously intended'. And that was not the point. The point was that Professor Shaunantijihad took a figure so preposterous that only the most gullible, dishonest type of person would report it as fact. And that's exactly what he did.

But let's say he did intend to say $30,000 per Israeli taxpayer. That's still out by $29,639. The amount that Israel received in military aid in 2010 came to the grand sum of $361 per Israeli citizen.

The truth will out said...

Are juwes really so desperate that they must form groups in the thousands and dedicate themselves to distorting the facts to suit their own nefarious agendas?

Well, yes, yes they are.

The House of Rothschild bought Reuters news service in the 1800's. Within the last 20 years, Reuters bought the Associated Press. Now the Elite own the two largest wire services in the world, where most newspapers get their news.
It's really quite grotesque when you consider just how much of our Western media and TV networks Western media and TV networks they already own.


For the juwes, this simply is not enough!
Not satisfied that they own most of all the Wests 'open & free' newsmedia[silent 'j'].
They cannot for a second allow the risk that there are people that have escaped their mind control program and are talking freely amongst themselves without juwes controlling the direction of debate, this will simply not do!

World jewry has invested incredible sums of money in doing all they can to try and spread their propaganda into the as-of-yet uncontrolled media of the internet.

Their tentacles have no limit to their reach, they poison and turn foul any discourse that they themselves cannot directly control.

There is a website called GIYUS, Give 'isreal' Your United Support.

They provide you with a Megaphone App , this piece of software scans all the world's media resources and pulls out articles that relate or uncover crimes of 'isreal' and online polls.

They provide you with pre-written counter-arguments and statements of pro-isreali soundbites.
i.e. "So you're saying we are communists and capitalists...Ho Ho Ho"


Here is how it used to appear:
http://web.archive.org/web/20110107165900/http://www.giyus.org/

After getting a fair backlash here is how it appears today, you have to now register your email and get confirmation before they reveal their link to the "Megaphone App"
http://www.giyus.org/

So you see the juwes themselves see what we also see, a tribe of scheming soulless rats, utterly devoted to furthering and distorting the truth to suit their Satanic agenda, they are terrified of the world waking up to the jew and interfering with their centuries old scheme of world domination.

If the juwes themselves cannot control the entire field of debate, they then resort to sabotage.

Got Juwes?

Let's not get too sidetracked by the hasbarats determined to muddy the waters, here's another website that broke away from the "controlled opposition" of the so-called 'truth movement'.
http://rediscover911.com/

katana said...

The article below is a straightforward explanation of why fires and local damage did not bring WTC 7 down.

All the damage WTC 7 suffered was inconsequential. Would not lead to global collapse. It would certainly not lead to free-fall speed collapse for over 2 and 1/2 seconds. That requires the vaporization of about 8 floors or so.

WTC 7 is a classic case of controlled demo (CD), bottom up. They obviously couldn't do it top down (like WTC 1 & 2)since there would be no obvious mechanism for the public to swallow. They also couldn't leave the explosives there to be found, so they had to blow it.

If any tower went down from CD then it's GAME OVER. And the evidence of CD for all building is overwhelming.

With jews in full control of all three building and all the rest of it, Arabs planting explosives is out of the question.

So it's back the the usual extended crime family, namely the jews.

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http://www.wtc7.net/collapsecause.html

What Caused Building 7's Collapse?

This question would appear to be the greatest in engineering history. In over 100 years of experience with steel-framed buildings, fires have never caused the collapse of a single one, even though many were ravaged by severe fires. Indeed, fires have never caused the total collapse of any permanent steel structure.

What was done to answer this most important question? The only official body that admits to having investigated the curious collapse of Building 7 is FEMA's Building Performance Assessment Team (BPAT), which blamed fires for the collapse but admitted to being clueless about how fires caused the collapse.

People who have seen buildings implode in controlled demolitions are unlikely to be as challenged as FEMA's team in understanding the cause of Building 7's collapse. They will notice, upon watching the videos, that Building 7's collapse showed all of the essential features of a controlled demolition.

Despite having the appearance of a controlled demolition, is it possible that Building 7 could have been destroyed by some combination of damage from tower debris, fuel tank explosions, and fires? Let's consider the possible scenarios.

NIST released a photograph in 2005 showing a large gouge in the lower portion of the southwest corner of Building 7, and its collapse scenario deviates significantly from FEMA's in emphasizing alleged structural damage from the collapse of the North Tower. That photograph is notable for its lack of corroboration, and NIST's claims of other regions of damage to the building's south face lack substantiating evidence. Even if NIST's claims about structural damage from North Tower debris were true, it would not begin to explain the precipitous, symmetrical manner in which Building 7 collapsed. Structural damage to the south side -- particularly to the lower stories -- would have made any kind of vertical collapse all the more unlikely.

1/2

katana said...

2/2
The idea that diesel fuel stored in Building 7 is to blame for the collapse was promoted by The New York Times in late 2001 and by FEMA's 2002 Building Performance Study. 1 This idea is also untenable. Fires were observed in Building 7 prior to its collapse, but they were isolated in small parts of the building, and were puny by comparison to other building fires. Let's imagine, contrary to the evidence, that debris from the tower collapses damaged Building 7's structure, that diesel fuel tanks exploded, and that incredibly intense fires raged through large parts of the building. Could such events have caused the building to collapse? Not in the manner observed. The reason is that simultaneous and symmetric damage is needed to produce a collapse with the precise symmetry of the vertical fall of building 7. This building had 58 perimeter columns and 25 core columns. In order to cause the building to sink into its footprint, all of the core columns and all of the perimeter columns would have to be broken in the same split-second.

Any debris from the towers impacting Building 7 would have hit its south side, and any columns damaged by it would almost certainly be perimeter columns on its south side. Any fuel tank explosion would only be able to damage nearby structure. The rapid fall-off of blast pressures with distance from the source would preclude any such event from breaking all of the columns in the building.

(Furthermore the very idea of a tank of diesel fuel exploding taxes the imagination, since diesel fuel does not even begin to boil below 320ยบ F. 2 ) Fires have never been known to damage steel columns in high-rise buildings, but if they could, the damage would be produced gradually and would be localized to the areas where the fire was the most intense.

No combination of debris damage, fuel-tank explosions, and fires could inflict the kind of simultaneous damage to all the building's columns required to make the building implode. The precision of such damage required to bring Building 7 down into its footprint was especially great, given the ratio of its height to its width and depth. Any asymmetry in the extent and timing of the damage would cause such a building to topple.

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katana said...

SAVANT said...
And by the way, I have no problem with counter-arguments here. Because unlike so many of our opponents I am actually searching for the truth and as such am open to opposite views, even when obviously tendentious.
16 September 2012 11:09
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This is a good policy that is often thrown to the wayside when people think they have latched onto the 'truth'.

If it wasn't for being open to alternative views I would be still stuck in a default MSM scripted pro-jew mindset that I have had all my life until nearly a couple of years ago.

Much research later, I now see organized jewery as being the enemy of humanity and decency, to put things plainly, bluntly. World events make a lot more sense as a whole lot of puzzle pieces now fit together. But it is not a happy realization. It's grim, like realizing that a member of ones extended family is a psychopath.

It's not the 'final truth' since there are always more riddles, but it's getting closer in explanatory power.

Shaunantijihad said...

"You have chosen someone who shares your prejudice and have therefore decided to believe absolutely anything they say, regardless of how ridiculous it is. That shows your insanity."

Sigh. He shares my prejudice? What a laugh! Watch the video and see Traficant state categorically that he thinks Israel is an important US ally and that he is not an anti-Semite. And the enormous figure he arrives at includes the costs of all the illegal wars in the middle East as they are fought on behalf of the Israelis. That is how the sum is so large. But you didn't even watch it so what the hell. You have your agenda.

Now as for me, unlike Traficant, I am a total f*****g Jew hater, Muslim hater, anti-jew-central banker, and a f*****g Zionist. So please don't confuse me with the mild mannered Congressman. Zionist?Yes. My ancestors created Israel for the purpose of sending the damned Jews out of Europe, a task yet to be completed.

But again, Nastiest seeks to distract.

911 is key.

911 revealed will mean the end of the Jews in the West, and hopefully see them all deported to Israel, doctors, nurses and all.

Shaunantijihad said...

"Anonymous said...
Notice how the Jew focuses like a laser on a small misstatement in an extemporaneous speech and tries to make a federal case of it.

Notice also how the Jew in this case does not state what the speaker obviously intended.

The reason for this omission is that the correction also does not reflect well upon the Jews.

What the speaker meant to say of course was "$30k for every man woman and child in Israel."

16 September 2012 02:08"

I think you nailed it there Anon.

But NU thinks that the evidence US Jews and Israel committed 911 is "incidental".

No, it is central. It is the key fact, one which NU would like sidelined. US Jews and Israel committed 911, America's "greatest ally".

Nastiest Uncle said...

@the truth will out 12:33

"The House of Rothschild bought Reuters news service in the 1800's. Within the last 20 years, Reuters bought the Associated Press. Now the Elite own the two largest wire services in the world, where most newspapers get their news."

I could find nothing about the House of Rothschild buying Reuters in the 1800s.

However it is now ThomsonReuters and is 53% owned by the Thomson family of Canada.

The Associated Press is not owned by the Rothschilds. It is a co-operative which is owned by 1400 US newspapers.

I think there comes a time when you just have to stop believing a word David Icke writes. It's like a boy who cries wolf situation. David Icke has not only cried wolf; he has cried arctic fox, snowshoe rabbit, polar bear and Reindeer. Oh, and shape-shifting lizards.

The men with the large butterfly nets will be with you shortly.

The Dude said...

Not insane, just innumerate. What do you estimate the annual cost per Taxpaying American? Please do not include the tens of millions of illegals, for they will never pay back a dime. Please further reduce the denominator by the native-born cradle-to-grave welfare leeches, for they, too, will never pay back a dime. Reduce the number of Americans even further by the over fifty percent who make too little to pay any taxes at all. Chop the denominator even further by extracting those who offshore their wealth and income and thereby pay little or nothing. For the handful of us left who send our sons to the Middle east to die for Obama and the neocons, who subsidize all the third worlders flooding America and give up our positions in the government and universities we founded and made great, what is our share, per person?

Anonymous said...

SAVANT said...(16 September 2012 11:09): What article on the DT did you post the comment? I ask because I have, over the years, posted some links, which were promptly taken down and in short order I was banned...”

Savant,

Don’t ‘Register with the Telegraph’ / ‘Comment with a Telegraph account’ – use the ‘Comment with one of your accounts’ (Disqus / f connect / Twitter) instead.

Go to mailinator.com to get an email address (use any name e.g. johnsmith1@mailinator.com) and use the email address to register with Disqus. When you get banned from commenting, delete your Disqus account, go to mailinator.com to get a new email address (e.g. johnsmith2@mailinator.com) and register again with Disqus. Note: you can still use your old login name (john_smith etc). Alternatively, just use another name/email address e.g. bobjones@mailinator.com etc.

I can’t remember exactly which article I posted the comment on (I’ve posted so many comments using different names) but I remember the DT moderator deleting the actual comments of the post leaving just the link (http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/shatter-watch-brilliant-suggestion.html). The post with the link would have been deleted by now (when you’re banned all of your comments are deleted).

Frank Galton

Anonymous said...

Nastiest Uncle said...( 16 September 2012 11:08): “What bothers me is that if we are to ever sort out our countries (by stopping and reversing immigration) then we are going to need some kind of movement which the public can get behind...”

Do you mean the kind of “movement” that’s controlled by Jews (hoodwinking the poor goyim and leading them up the garden path)?

Nastiest Uncle said...( 16 September 2012 11:08): “This is because you, and people like you, are DISHONEST, GULLIBLE, UNINTELLIGENT AND INSANE.”

One of the most effective tools in the Hasbara propagandists armoury is name-calling (Nazi, racist, fascist etc) in an attempt to stifle any and all criticism of the State of Israel. To download the Hasbara propaganda manual, click on link.

HASBARA HANDBOOK (WJUS, 2002)
http://www.middle-east-info.org/take/wujshasbara.pdf

Seven Basic Propaganda Devices (Page 22)

NAME CALLING: Through the careful use of words, name calling links a person or an idea to a negative symbol. The most obvious example – “they’re a neo-Nazi group”. (Page 22)

Notice also how the Hasbara always use the PLAIN FOLKS TECHNIQUE?

PLAIN FOLKS: The plain folks technique attempts to convince the listener that the speaker is a 'regular guy', who is trust-worthy because they are like 'you or me'. (Page 25)

Strange how the “PLAIN FOLK” on this forum always resort to “NAME CALLING”.

Frank Galton

Heraclitus said...

katana. You mention about how, by seeing the jew behind the curtain, that many heretofore unexplainable events now make sense. That's been my experience as well. And just like you I bought into the Approved Explanation Of Everything up until a few years ago.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@The Dude 16:01

"Not insane, just innumerate."

No, insane. Because he believes anything he is told which suits he pre-formed prejuduce.


"What do you estimate the annual cost per Taxpaying American?"

It comes to about $20 per American who filed a tax return. Or four and a half Big Macs.

Anonymous said...

the juwes are the men that will not be blamed for nothing

Nastiest Uncle said...

I'm Spartacus!

Anonymous said...

Nastiest Uncle is indeed correct in pointing out the flawed figures. I noticed this myself when watching the video and came to the conclusion that he had conflated the national debt fogure with the aid to Israel.

It's important to distinguish fact from fiction and accept it when folk legitimately point out errors like this.

Daniel said...

Nastiest Uncle has indeed pointed out some flawed figures and flawed reasoning. Get your facts right people as we only undermine our objectives by making silly and poitless errors like this.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Anonymous 17:23

"the juwes are the men that will not be blamed for nothing"

Oh lawdy, it's Jack the Ripper. Quick, hide your prostitutes before their internal organs begin disappearing with surgical precision.

The truth will out said...

"Nastiest Uncle
15:18"

So you take umbrage I would C&P a quote from various online sources RE Rothschild owning Reuters, they certainly control the world's governments through the jewish criminal practice of usury, by extension they have subverted and corrupted all our courts, legal, financial and academic institutes in each and every land of white heritage.

Is it really so much of an incredible leap to assume they have some hand in the control of the information and propaganda we are subjected to daily for the past 100 or so years?

I'd prefer you attacked the incredible and simply 'insane' fact of the GIYUS situation I mentioned.
However you can't so you won't.

We all know the House of Rothschild own Britain, Ireland, America and the majority of the West, they hold all our governments hostage, the Balfour 'declaration' is no more than a receipt to Lord Rothschild in illegally claiming the "real-estate" of 'isreal'.

"Foreign Office, November 2nd,1917

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you on behalf of His Majesty's Government the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations, which has been submitted to and approved by the Cabinet:

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

I should be grateful if you would bring this Declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely,

Arthur James Balfour."



Here are just some examples of the web of deceit and control of the media that the reptile-like vermin are behind.

Ultra Concentrated Media Top Selling Brands

The illusion of Choice

Ultra Concentrated Media Brainwash

Let's just say at least one or two juwes have their hand in our media...

As you can see it's a particularly complex web but we understand all too well the all pervasive influence it has had on the West to date, the internet is slowly changing that, never before could people across the world communicate with each other so swiftly and free from jewish influence.



We can easily prove the jewish control of the media.

If it's owned by juwes, then it ain't real news.


I don't follow David Icke that much, I understand he needs to use 'reptiles' as a cover when identifying the Satanic jew, but be fair to Icke, juwes do look like reptiles, they only use the part of the brain that is considered primitive and predatory, without conscience with an irrepressible hatred toward humanity...they certainly aren't human.

Would you prefer we refer to you juwes as Neanderthals?
There's certainly many compelling arguments being debated today to suggest so...

It certainly would explain a few things.

The truth will out said...

Re: Israli benefits from American taxpayers
http://www.wrmea.org/special-topics/5696.html

Summary

Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid
Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)

Foreign Aid Grants and Loans
$74,157,600,000

Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid)
$9,047,227,200

Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments
$1,650,000,000

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Total Benefits per Israeli
$14,630
Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S.
Aid to Israel

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Interest Costs Borne by U.S.
$49,936,680,000

Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers
$134,791,507,200

Total Taxpayer Cost per Israeli
$23,240

Worth every penny...

This of course does not include the Kosher tax...

Nastiest Uncle said...

@The truth will out 19:25

"Lots of stuff about Rothschilds."

You're barking up the wrong tree regarding the Rothschilds. Over time, their wealth has diminished enormously due to having to split it between so many descendants and because of the emergence of the mega-banks to compete with them. They have even been known to close their own banks because of a lack of male heirs to run them.
I've seen no evidence to suggest that they are powerful enough to 'own' countries. What I have seen is lots of made up quotes passed off as fact and lots of revisionism which completely ignores reality.

It seems as though some people really, really need the Rothschilds to be the bad guys.

I've heard it all, the most infamous being the quote about how it doesn't matter who makes laws (you know what I am talking about here), the only problem being he never said it, or the fantasy about how the Rothschilds bought the British government after the Battle of Waterloo, again a pure invention. But people believe it, because without this imaginary enemy of organised Jewry then national socialism would fall apart. And that's what you guys are, isn't it - national socialists. Sometimes you are honest about it and the rest of the time it is a barely concealed fact. This is why you are obsessed with Jews.

On to world media. A few weeks ago I did a little digging and I found that of the top ten media companies in the world, not one was owned by Jews. The ownership was generally made up of pension funds, other funds and small investors.
I did find however that Jews were over-represented in very senior positions in these media companies. But then Jews are over-represented in many other professional fields, due to their dedication to education and 'can do' attitude. These media company boss Jews get their jobs by agreement with the owners of the companies (ie. the investors) which own them and they are appointed on their perceived ability to create the best possible return for the investors, not on their Jewish credentials. Another thing to consider is that these Jews are a mixture of ethnic and religious. If you know Jews, then you'd know that they do not think as a single unit. Their political opinions and allegiances are as diverse as those for non-Jews. So, these companies are not being run in line with some Jewish conspiracy to make us all love black people and want to become coffee coloured.

I'm getting bored with this.

Maybe someone can make a claim that all large companies have a triangle in their company logo to symbolise the pyramids or something. I heard that one once from a national socialist on another site so I would imagine it's quite a common belief here too.

Croesus said...

The Waterloo story is most certianly NOT a fantasy. Nathan Mayer Rothschild got back to London with the news before anyone else. He immediately began to sell his assets. Seeing this, the other investors naturally assumed that Britain had lost the battle, and hence the war. They unloaded everything they could - even at knock-down prices. To none other that said Nathan. When word of the victory was formally recieved the value of these assets shot up to unprecedented levels.

Now was this illegal? I'd say no. But it was, let's just say, a very jewish thing to do. You see Uncle, if jews keep doing things such as this, and they have, for millennia, it's going to make them unpopular. And so, the much complained of jewish stereotype arose for a reason. Like all stereotypes, by the way.

Shaunantijihad said...

As one of the Anon's pointed out Traficant's error between per US citizen and per Israeli citizen is a simple error, including my own reference to it. So Anon is correct to point this out, thank you. I stand corrected.

Nastiest Uncle, please reply. Does the Congressman's statement '$30,000 per citizen' mean that Jews in Israel live in the luxury of having $30,000 each before even getting out of bed thanks to the hard work of US taxpayers?

But anyway, to take this and try to use it to say that the Jewish attack on 911 (after the Jewish attack on Russia and other eastern European people, and the USS Liberty) is "incidental" tells me that NU has an agenda.

That agenda is divert attention by any means away from the evidence that US Jewry and Israel committed 911. Why? Because 911 is the greatest blunder they ever made.

But an apology is due, quite rightly. If I have damaged the cause of revealing this most important truth by any misunderstanding of Mr Traficant then I humbly apologise. Most sincerely.

Savant, to you my apologies if I have made a mistake that brings your blog into any disrepute.

But it remains. 911 is the key that will unlock the brainwashed minds of those who think Jews and Israel are not their enemies, without, and within.

Our enemies will always want a new dialogue. Anything except 911. Anything to keep the goyim mind from concentrating on this most profoundly important issue.

Never let 911 die in a sea of other articles, please.

Uncle Nasty said...

.
This is a scream ...

On to world media. A few weeks ago I did a little digging and I found that of the top ten media companies in the world, not one was owned by Jews. The ownership was generally made up of pension funds, other funds and small investors.

To which I say:- Bullshit.

Ownership means nothing. Ownership is for naive, trusting suckers. It's control that matters.

http://thezog.wordpress.com/

... and once again, I say that the minute people wake up to how important, no, vital control of the media is ... then, and only then, will we see some meaningful progress.

UN
.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Anonymous Croesus 22:01

"The Waterloo story is most certianly NOT a fantasy."

The Rothschilds-bought-Great-Britain hoax was shown to be a hoax by researchers who had access to the Rothschilds banking archives. Rothschild had banked on the Waterloo campaign being a long, draw-out affair when actually it was a quick, decisive British victory so at the end of the day's trading they barely made anything.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Shaunantijihad

"I stand corrected."

You've already been corrected. You thought that the US gives Israel $9 trillion per year, and you believed this figure without any hint of skepticism whatsoever.

"Does the Congressman's statement '$30,000 per citizen' mean that Jews in Israel live in the luxury of having $30,000 each before even getting out of bed thanks to the hard work of US taxpayers?"

No, because the aid does not go to Israeli Jews. It goes into military research and procurement and into buying American-made arms.

"But anyway, to take this and try to use it to say that the Jewish attack on 911 (after the Jewish attack on Russia and other eastern European people, and the USS Liberty) is "incidental" "

I didn't say that any of your bullshit theories were incidental. I said that my coming here and debunking your crap isn't based on it being directed against Jews since the targets of your lies are incidental. I'd be here debunking your crap regardless of whether you were lying about Jews, or Hindus or shape-shifting lizards or lesbians.

"tells me that NU has an agenda."

I've been quite honest about my agenda, which is to show people like you up as simpletons and liars in the hope that you won't taint the anti-multi-culti movement any more.

"That agenda is divert attention by any means away from the evidence that US Jewry and Israel committed 911."

What evidence? There isn't any.

The truth will out said...

Nastiest Uncle
"infamous being the quote about how it doesn't matter who makes laws"

Oh yeah that's right, some rabbi and the ADL said it's not true...

I note you completely ignored several of my other sources and points again, as mentioned before you focus on the minutiae of greater argument and apply you whole weight of defence on that ignoring all the greater evidence.

"A few weeks ago I did a little digging and I found that of the top ten media companies in the world, not one was owned by Jews."

I repeat again some points made that you so overlooked...with such bad eyesight no wonder you weren't able to spot the great big fucking noses of those in control of our media.

Jews DO control the media
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/jews-do-control-the-media/

The Jew Media Octopus
http://incogman.net/jew-media/

How Jewish is Hollywood?
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,4676183.column

Who controls America
http://thezog.wordpress.com/
Includes details of
Banking/Finance
Mass Media
Government/Politics
Social Engineering
“New World Order”

So about that thorough investigation you conducted that shown no juwes in the top 10, not one?
Suggests you're either incapable of simple and earnest research or a shifty lying jew.

Here is a short excerpt of Benjamin Freedman explaining the illegitimate Balfour 'declaration'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y44lS_sOtaY

The whole speech is necessary listening if you want to carry on defending the indefensible.
Parts 1- 5 here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijEXO9QTKS4&bpctr=1347841997

The truth will out said...

PS - Oh nasty hasbarat

So while you 'overlooked' the whole self-incriminating GIYUS disgrace.

It appears your 'evidence' for support on your behalf is derived from Wikipedia, that's the open source blog that anyone can edit...

Imagine if I was to say there are teams of juwes that devote themselves to perverting the truth and spend unnatural amounts of time and effort not to mention finances solely to distort the truth and edit Wikipedia entirely on behalf of the tribe.

I wouldn't blame anyone for saying I was getting all paranoid...however once more for you, the proof is provided.

You have got to be fucking kidding me!

How do you write slippery cunts in hebrew?

Uncle Nasty said...

.
You're getting bored? Oh, Lord.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread211313/pg1

This is from ca. 2006

What's the Net Worth of the Rothschilds?

I was wondering what their net worth is. According to Forbes it's just $1.5 billion in total (for the whole family). Even though it is said that they were estimated to be worth $6 billion in 1850. I would find it hard to believe that such shrewd business family would lose such an incredible amount of value during the last century and a half. It's even rumoured that around the 1850's that they owned half of the world finance. But I don't know if that is confirmed financially.

Btw... 1 dollar now is worth (has the buying power of) about what 4 cents was worth in 1913, due to inflation over the last century according to republican congressman Ron Paul. So $6 billion in 1913 would be equivalent to more than $150 billion today.

And according to the website I linked above, $6 billion in 1913 would be equivalent to $1.9 trillion today!!

There are even rumors that they're worth $100 trillion!!!. Now what is real???

What are they really worth??? According to Forbes the richest man in the world is Bill Gates, and the Richest family is the Walton family. The Rotschilds are somewhere down the line, but in the top 100 though..

Well if that's true, then they've lost at least 98% of their fortune since 1850. Now I find that hard to believe.


Yup ... I can just see that particular branch of the tribe relinquishing all that loot without a murmur ...

UN
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Uncle Nasty said...

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On to world media. A few weeks ago I did a little digging and I found that of the top ten media companies in the world, not one was owned by Jews. The ownership was generally made up of pension funds, other funds and small investors.
I did find however that Jews were over-represented in very senior positions in these media companies.


Why bother owning it? All you have to do is control it. I did a little search of my own:-

http://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-big-media/

http://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-hollywood/

http://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-news-part-1/

http://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-white-house/

I could go on, but I'm sure you get the message. In the words of the old song:-

Jew, jew, jew.
There's no one but jew, jew, jew.

UN
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AnalogMan said...

Nastiest: You're barking up the wrong tree regarding the Rothschilds. Over time, their wealth has diminished enormously due to having to split it between so many descendants and because of the emergence of the mega-banks to compete with them. They have even been known to close their own banks because of a lack of male heirs to run them.

Conclusion: Rothschilds breed mostly girls. Is this true?

Elaine said...

Guys, I have to be honest here. I have been a rapt follower of the dialogue with Nastiest Uncle and I have to say he's giving as good as he's getting, despite the massed assault.

The truth will out said...

"Elaine said...
Guys, I have to be honest here. I have been a rapt follower of the dialogue with Nastiest Uncle and I have to say he's giving as good as he's getting, despite the massed assault."

You mean the part where he focuses one one part of a statement made by Jim Traficant and ignores the countless completely other indisputable arguments made to him.

Yeah honestly he is...

joe public said...

Actually Elaine, and I'm trying to be fair here, I don't think NU is doing that good a job. Mostly due to the fact that defending the indefensible is hard work. His modus operandi, as I see it, is to ignore points that he can't satisfactorily address and attack the others. He then triumphantly claims that he's rebutted and refuted the poster in question.

But yes, I'm learning more from these threads than I would in a year's TV or MSM

katana said...

The article below is an explanation of why aircraft impacts and fires did not bring WTC 1 and 2 down.

My previous comment on WTC 7 applies here … If any tower went down from controlled demolition (CD) then it's GAME OVER. And the evidence of CD for all building is overwhelming.

With jews in full control of all three building and all the rest of it, Arabs planting explosives is out of the question. So it's back the the usual extended crime family, namely the jews.

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http://ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-articles/655-faq-9-were-the-twin-towers-designed-to-survive-the-impact-of-the-airplanes.html

FAQ #9: Were the Twin Towers Designed to Survive the Impact of the Airplanes?

Written by AE911Truth Staff
Tuesday, 21 August 2012 13:23

Early design tests confirmed that the Twin Towers could survive the impact of a Boeing 707, which is similar in size to Boeing 767 jets that crashed into them on 9/11

Both technical calculations and testimony from WTC structural engineers confirm that the Twin Towers were built to withstand the impact from the passenger jets that hit them on 9/11.

Airplane impact tests conducted by WTC structural engineers during the design of the Twin Towers used the Boeing 707, which was one of the largest passenger jets in the world at the time. The results of the test, carried out early in 1964, calculated that the towers would handle the impact of a 707 traveling at 600 mph without collapsing.

Even though the two Boeing 767 aircraft that were said to be used in the 9/11 attacks were slightly larger than the 707, technical comparisons show that the 707 has more destructive force at cruising speed. The following analysis was compiled by 911research.net:

The maximum takeoff weight for a Boeing 707-320B is 336,000 pounds.
The maximum takeoff weight for a Boeing 767-200ER is 395,000 pounds.

The wingspan of a Boeing 707 is 146 feet.
The wingspan of a Boeing 767 is 156 feet.

The length of a Boeing 707 is 153 feet.
The length of a Boeing 767 is 159 feet.

The Boeing 707 could carry 23,000 gallons of fuel.
The Boeing 767 could carry 23,980 gallons of fuel.

The cruise speed of a Boeing 707 is 607 mph = 890 ft/s,
The cruise speed of a Boeing 767 is 530 mph = 777 ft/s.

So, the Boeing 707 and 767 are very similar aircraft, with the main differences being that the 767 is slightly heavier and the 707 is faster.

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katana said...

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In designing the towers to withstand the impact of a Boeing 707, the designers would have assumed that the aircraft was operated normally. So they would have assumed that the aircraft was traveling at its cruise speed (i.e., not at faster speeds perhaps flown by suicide pilots). With this in mind, we can calculate the energy that the plane would impart to the towers in any accidental collision.

The kinetic energy released by the impact of a Boeing 707 at cruise speed is
= 0.5 x 336,000 x (890)^2/32.174
= 4.136 billion ft lbs force (5,607,720 Kilojoules).

The kinetic energy released by the impact of a Boeing 767 at cruise speed is
= 0.5 x 395,000 x (777)^2/32.174
= 3.706 billion ft lbs force (5,024,650 Kilojoules).

From this, we see that under normal flying conditions, a Boeing 707 would smash into the WTC with about 10 percent more energy than would the slightly heavier Boeing 767. That is, under normal flying conditions, a Boeing 707 would do more damage than a Boeing 767.

So what can be said about the actual impacts?

The speed of impact of AA Flight 11 was 470 mph = 689 ft/s.
The speed of impact of UA Flight 175 was 590 mph = 865 ft/s.

The kinetic energy released by the impact of AA Flight 11 was
= 0.5 x 395,000 x (689)^2/32.174
= 2.914 billion ft lbs force (3,950,950 Kilojoules).

This is well within limits that the towers were built to survive. So why did the North tower fall?

The kinetic energy released by the impact of UA Flight 175 was
= 0.5 x 395,000 x (865)^2/32.174
= 4.593 billion ft lbs force (6,227,270 Kilojoules).

This is within 10 percent of the energy released by the impact of a Boeing 707 at cruise speed. So, it would be also a surprise for the 767 impact to have caused the South tower to fall.

When interviewed in 1993, Lead WTC Structural Engineer John Skilling told The Seattle Times:
Lead WTC Structural Engineer John Skilling was rightfully confident that neither the impact of a large passenger jet nor the ensuing office fires was capable of bringing down the Twin Towers

“We looked at every possible thing we could think of that could happen to the buildings, even to the extent of an airplane hitting the side… Our analysis indicated the biggest problem would be the fact that all the fuel (from the airplane) would dump into the building. There would be a horrendous fire. A lot of people would be killed. [But] the building structure would still be there.”

katana said...

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In 2001, Leslie Robertson, a WTC structural engineer who worked as a subordinate to Skilling, claimed that the Twin Towers were only able to withstand the impact of jet airplanes going no faster than 180 mph. However, not only are these statements contradicted by the design test results, they also contradict statements made by Robertson in 1984/1985, when he said that there was “little likelihood of a collapse no matter how the building was attacked.”

Robertson also claimed that the fires caused by a jet impact were not incorporated into the WTC design analysis. “To the best of our knowledge, little was known about the effects of a fire from such an aircraft, and no designs were prepared for that circumstance,” he stated in 2002. However, not only is this statement contradicted by Skilling, but it also lacks common sense, according to 9/11 researcher Kevin Ryan. “That’s kind of crazy… I don’t know how the planes would get to the buildings without jet fuel,” Ryan explains in a video presentation titled The NIST World Trade Center Report: A New Standard for Deception. “Who would design these buildings for jet plane impacts but not fuel fires?”

Not only were the towers designed to survive crashes of large jet aircraft, but they were designed to potentially survive multiple plane crashes. This assertion is supported by Frank A. Demartini, the on-site construction manager for the World Trade Center, who said on January 25, 2001:

“The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door—this intense grid—and the jet plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting.”

Demartini appeared to be so confident that the towers would not collapse that he stayed behind, after the airplane impacts, to help save at least 50 people. As a result of his actions, he lost his life on 9/11.

Like the firefighters who perished in the WTC buildings, Demartini may very well have risked his life to save others, but the evidence suggests that he did not think he was endangering himself by simply going back into the building.

In addition, investigators from NIST who examined the destruction of the WTC skyscrapers told The New York Times in 2007 that newly disclosed documents from the 1960s show that the new York Port Authority, the original owners of Twin Towers, also considered aircraft moving at 600 mph,slightly faster and therefore more destructive than the ones that did hit the towers.

The information detailed in 9/11: Explosive Evidence – Experts Speak Out demonstrates clearly that pre-planted explosives – not jet plane impacts and fires – destroyed the Twin Towers. The WTC designers seemed to be correct in their analysis in the 1960s, and the evidence that these buildings were brought down by controlled demolition corroborates their conclusions.

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The truth will out said...

Thanks Joe, I was starting to question the validity/sanity of Julian and Elaine's show of support to what is a lying hasbarat trying to derail the flow of discussion.

Here's a recent article from my favourite jew (he's now an ex-jew)

Brother Nathanael Kapner explains Israel’s Global Infrastructure simple enough for even the most gullible of us Goys to understand.

Anonymous said...

Elaine, you bring the old joke to mind 'I can't understand the critics saying that only an idiot would like that television program. I really enjoyed it'.

UNcle Nasty said...

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You'll like this:-

http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/

The Essential Catherine Austin Fitts Reader

Posted on September 17, 2012

Catherine Austin Fitts has told us that the bankers are buying out all of the real assets with money they stole from us. On September 10, 2001 Donald Rumsfeld announced that 2.3 trillion dollars went missing from Defense Department spending. Rumsfeld promised they would do a better job at tracing the missing money by the end of George Bush’s second term. That promise was not fulfilled. Instead on the morning of September 11, 2001 what was alleged to be Flight 77 approached the Pentagon, missed Donald Rumsfeld’s office by doing a 270 degree turn and killed the auditors who had been trying to trace that missing trillions.

Catherine was US Housing Commissioner in the first Bush administration. She once said she found one block in San Diego that had lost 20 million dollars in HUD loans made on properties that never existed and did not even have postal street addresses.

On March 22, 2000 Susan Gaffney, Inspector General of Housing and Urban Development, testified before the US House of Representatives that she had to adjust the books 284 times and write off 77.2 billion dollars for the fiscal years 1998 and 1999. A Congressman asked her if she did anything other than adjust the books. She said she did nothing other than adjust the books meaning she did not even try to recover the stolen money.

Catherine developed Community Wizard which was a program that would tell voters how much federal money was spent in each zip code so we could get control of government spending. Catherine was sued and investigated 19 times to tun her out of Washington DC. Honest men and women of integrity are not allowed to be anywhere your Banker Occupied Government.


People like Catherine Austin Fitts are quite charming. They believe that there is room for integrity somehow, somewhere in this yid riddled world ... and they act on that belief -- until they get framed or murdered.

UN
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Anonymous said...

An ignorant Anonymous poster said:

"There was no truck bomb. There were three men arrested in a van which contained no explosives. There was no reason to think that they were Israelis."

FYI, there was more than one van.

http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14461

Robert

Anonymous said...

Nuttiest Uncle said:

"Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah..."

Get lost, you HasbaRat troll. Or are you a Jew-loving, Jew-ignorant, Christian Zionist nutjob? Either one, I'm sick of ratz like you disturbing and polluting online forums.

Jim

Anonymous said...

"NAME CALLING: Through the careful use of words, name calling links a person or an idea to a negative symbol. The most obvious example – “they’re a neo-Nazi group”."

Yeah, "neo-Nazi" vs. the same old, lying, swindling, deceptive, cunning, subversive, nationwrecking, goyim-hating, marxist, communist, socialist, leftwing, supremacist Jews.

Jim

joe public said...

Jim - 'far Right is another one. I saw a BBC reporter taken aback when an interviwee shot back at her 'what do you mean I'm far Right?'

'Well, your group is generally seen as far Right'

'In that case try being a proper journalist and determine your own facts rather than just parotting what you hear somewhere'

Just beautiful.