Sunday, 15 January 2012

Plus ça change (plus c'est la même chose)

"The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. The banking powers are more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. They denounce as public enemies all who question their methods or throw light upon their crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe." Abraham Lincoln

46 comments:

Franz said...

This is how Andrew Jackson greeted an assembly of stockjobbers visiting the White House:

"You are a nest of vipers and thieves, and by the grace of the almighty God, I will root you out!"

Now compare this to how Barack Obama welcomes visitors from Wall Street.

"I give head for every donation of $20.000 to my reelection campaign. For $30.000 I throw in a rim-job."

Returning to the happier past: I am always baffled when I read about the early presidents of the United States.

Washington, Jefferson, Jackson appear to be specimens of a moral and intelectual super-race which has become extinct long ago.

At least Ron Paul and his whelp Rand are trying to equal the virtues of their predecessors.

Shaunantijihad said...

Whoops! The Banksters' rape of America amounts to $638,000 or more per household according to this. All in interest bearing fiat Federal Reserve bank notes.

That's a lot of debt. There will be massive inflation to pay back this debt in devalued dollars.

Buy agricultural land if you can, or some gold and silver for your grandkids, as even the ancient £ will be relieved of most of it's buying power over the next decades by the international banksters. Not to mention that replacing the industrious white Britons with workshy, criminal Africans and Muslims will further annihilate our white currencies.

Enemies at our backs indeed, and in our pockets.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/34-shocking-facts-about-u-s-debt-that-should-set-america-on-fire-with-anger

Anonymous said...

Is that true about Obama?

eh said...

"If the Nation can issue a dollar bond it can issue a dollar bill. The element that makes the bond good makes the bill good also. The difference between the bond and the bill is that the bond lets the
money broker collect twice the amount of the bond and an additional 20%. Whereas the currency, the honest sort provided by the Constitution pays nobody but those who contribute in some useful way. It is absurd to say our Country can issue bonds and cannot issue currency. Both are promises to pay, but one fattens the usurer and the other helps the People."
-- Thomas Edison

Anonymous said...

Plenty of food for thought:

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quotes_about/money

Anonymous said...

"I give head for every donation of $20.000 to my reelection campaign. For $30.000 I throw in a rim-job."

Seems a fair enough deal to me.

Anonymous said...

Giants indeed!.Literally so in Washingtons case I believe.

Add in Madison,Franklin,Adams.

What an extraordinary flowering.Did the men create the times or the times the men?.

mr.a

gallowglass said...

Franz - great insight. And these earlier presidents had to operate with very limited information resources. It's what's known as a managed decline. We now have hand puppets instead.

Anonymous said...

During the war for Irelands' independence Michael Collins was ,amongst many other things,Minister for Finance in the nascent State.
The banks were refusing loans to ordinary Irish people and favoured only those well disposed to the British crown on the presumption the rebels would fail.
Collins called the heads of the banks in and pleaded with them to reconsider .They point blank refused .
While they were being shown out Collins told them he could not guarantee their safety once they left the building.
When the colour returned to their cheeks they assured him they were misunderstood and of course the loans would be made.The very real threat of imminent death was the one thing they understood and were responsive to.

Anonymous said...

@ anon 12:15

I like the Michael Collins anecdote. It just goes to show when the rulers say violence (aimed at them) achieves nothing you can be sure it achieves everything. These cowardly vermin are terrified people turn on them. I for one hope I live long enough to see a few, Saddam Hussein style lynchings and some Airey Neave type disappearing acts for these enemies of humanity.

Anonymous said...

Quotes from The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln, edited by Roy P. Basler, published in 1953 by the Rutgers University Press.

Speech at Peoria, Illinois on October 16, 1854, during first Lincoln-Douglas debates: "In the course of his reply, Senator Douglas remarked, in substance, that he had always considered this government was made for the White people and not for the negroes. Why, in point of mere fact, I think so too."

From 'Fragments: Notes for Speeches', September 1859: "Negro Equality! Fudge!! How long in the government of a God, great enough to make and maintain this Universe, shall there continue knaves to vend, and fools to gulp, so low a piece of demagoguism as this?"

Speech at Springfield, Illinois on June 26, 1857: "Judge Douglas has said to you that he has not been able to get from me an answer to the question whether I am in favor of negro citizenship. So far as I know, the Judge never asked me the question before. (Applause.) He shall have no occasion to ever ask it again, for I tell him very frankly that I am not in favor of negro citizenship". (Renewed Applause.)

Fourth debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois on September 18, 1858 : "I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the White and black races, (Applause) - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurers of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, not to intermarry with White people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the White and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on equal terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the White race..."

Address on Colonization to a Deputation of Negroes in Washington, D.C. on August 14,1862 . "You and we are different races. We have between us a broader difference than exists between almost any other two races. Whether it is right or wrong I need not discuss, but this physical difference is a great disadvantage to us both, as I think your race suffer very greatly,many of them living among us, while ours suffer from your presence. In a word we suffer on each side. If this is admitted, it affords a reason at least why we should be separated."

kulak said...

General Lee regretted Lincoln's assassination. Best friend the South had in North, he said.

After what came next, Lee regretted surrendering.

Lincoln was enough of a bastard to possibly have forcibly returned the negroes to Africa, had he lived.

electric eddie said...

electric eddie said; banks, banksters, all that; I have an idea in this area, an insane idea of course (i.e., one which could well work)and its this. 950 people are being let go by Ulster Bank, couple of thousand recently, more to come, so what are all these poor people to do? How about they all get together, pool their resources and skills---and open a decent. well run honest Bank?
Many probs solved I think.

Croesus said...

electric eddie - this is what should have happened in 2008. Let the banks go bust but protect the depositors say up to €100k. Then let the ex-employees buy the bank assets via funding (repayable) from the government. We'd have a funcrioning employee-owned honest system for one tenth of what it cost us.

electric eddie said...

electric eddie says; croesus, precisely. a proper bank, of service to the community and honestly run.So; would this independent sovereign nation be permitted to do this, and if not why not?

Anonymous said...

S&P has just downgraded the creditworthiness of Europe's EFSF bailout fund.

You couldn't makes this up.

gerry.

tsnamm said...

" Washington, Jefferson, Jackson appear to be specimens of a moral and intellectual super-race which has become extinct long ago. "
Well said Franz...we are currently led by a crop of moral and intellectual midgets...change will have to come from the bottom up, as those at the top are the main symptom of the disease that infests society. Their "leadership" is impotent and worthless.

Anonymous said...

Positive signs from Belfast.


www.u.tv/News/Racism-victim-fears-for-family/c87a2475-8499-4a52-8693-024a5394edd3

gerry.

gala said...

Good news Gerry. I see this 'Dutchman' is black as the ace of spades. He asks 'where can we go?'

A suggestion:

Back to oil-rich Nigeria.

Anonymous said...

Electric Eddie.

I have a much better idea. On our hands we have 950 disgruntled employees who, between them, will know everything, everything about the system ...

Offer them a partnership, they show you how to knobble the system and get your money back.

In return they all divide 5% of the profits between them -- and live to see the summer solstice.

Stop playing with the banks. The names and addresses of the shareholders and principals are known or can be found out.

Use the Collins option. I cannot fathom how, three years of destruction and bankruptcies later, that nothing has been done yet.

By anyone.

Stop playing. Stop being polite. Start misbehaving.

UN.

Anonymous said...

Food be racist!

I get it! It was egg white and yolk that was thrown at the house not a black egg!

Franz said...

@ UN

re: misbehaving

Hungary gets scarcely any international coverage these days. Which is a pity.

90% of the people there lost all their savings. HUGE anger. Yesterday I saw photos of demonstrators applying a blowtorch to an EU flag and threatening the life of any EU commissar daring to set foot into Budapest. The police stood aside, not daring to interfere.

And the full-blown depression has not even begun yet.

In a recent poll 69% (!) of all Hungarians agreed that "the Jews have too much influence".

If you want to see serious misbehaviour, track the CHF/HUF market. Once the HUF looses another 50% or so, bankstas won't be safe to cross the street there.

SAVANT said...

Franz, re Hungary: Remember the mantra - 'worse is better'.

Brandon said...

Lincoln....said some correct things and turned 360 on em like most pols. Did much other damage.
My take on the american Moses:

http://bclaym.wordpress.com/2012/01/04/moses-by-any-other-name/

Anonymous said...

Franz said...

@ UN

re: misbehaving

Hungary gets scarcely any international coverage these days. Which is a pity.


and

In a recent poll 69% (!) of all Hungarians agreed that "the Jews have too much influence".

If you want to see serious misbehaviour, track the CHF/HUF market. Once the HUF looses another 50% or so, bankstas won't be safe to cross the street there.


A thought occurs, Franz.

We hear nothing about the outrage in Hungary ... If you were controlling the international MSM, would you report that a whole country is looking for you and your tribe, rope in hand and handy lampposts reserved?

Someone once said that there is no such thing as public opinion ... what you get in its place is the press masquerading as the voice of the public.
Look at the public flaying of the English chick who lambasted the nogs on the subway. The left's lapdogs, the press and its associates were the screechers who bayed for her blood.

The same left, the same press who were silent when the four enrichers kicked a girl nearly to death.

I am always reminded of the commenter who pointed out that PETA will happily throw red paint over a leather or fur-clad movie starlet.

Very few would try it on the local chapter of the Hell's Angels.

The whole west wants to treat you like a criminal. Fine. Time to behave like one.
The system is far more fragile than anyone imagines.

Read the books.

UN
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Anonymous said...

PETA had as a member Pamela Anderson who turned up to events in Ugg boots. Which are made of wool. Which comes from sheep. Which has to be carefully explained to a blonde actress.

Anonymous said...

Be careful about making blonde jokes. You're doing our enemie's work for them. assuming you're not one of our enemies!

Franz said...

@ UN

LOL - PETA vs the heirs of Sonny Barger. Sir, you put a smile my face!

TBone said...

Uncle Nasty - I hear people talking about the Covington books all the time on this site. What's the best one to start with or does it matter?

Anonymous said...

TBone said...

Uncle Nasty - I hear people talking about the Covington books all the time on this site. What's the best one to start with or does it matter?

Tbone ... they have been discussed ad nauseum ... sadly, with me supplying a good deal of the nauseum.

Call me a shill for H.A. Covington, but I believe that he is probably the only really sane person in America.

Here is his site:

http://downwithjugears.blogspot.com/

I recommend you and all WNs visit it ... often. Gems can be found there.

Here are some of his books for sale:-

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=h+a+covington&x=14&y=21

I recommend "the Brigade", or "A Distant Thunder" as starters, but it does not really matter.

The "Northwest Quartet" as his four most famous are known all tell of a future history of the US ... but from different viewpoints and at different timestreams ...

This is a nice history, though. Most of the good guys win.

Buy the books if you can. Covington could use the money, but he is not driven by it.

He himself has made them available as down-loadable PDF files** for free. He says he'd rather be read than rich.

UN.

** That's PDF FILES ... not Michael Jackson.

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Anonymous said...

Sorry Tbone, I could have said it shorter ... Order does not really matter all that much.

UN
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Anonymous said...

Synchronicity can be such a strange thing ...

From Covington's site ...

Hello Harold,

Well done on the Harris show! A couple of things I thought I might raise, as they are going to continue to be raised I think.

Firstly, you mentioned that you do not believe that there is some sort of "pan-yid" conspiracy that is going on at a certain level involving certain elements of "yid-dom". And rather by virtue of the yid's inherent nature it simply gravitates into parasitic activity in any society it finds itself in.

I think this position can be defended up to a certain period in history (say 18th century post-City of London Corporation establishment by yids and the financing of expansion of industry in the colonial territories), but after this point it is hard to say that their actions are across the board merely random.


Note the reference to the City of London Corporation.

Can anyone give us a History of the City of London Corporation?

From what I can gather it has as much to do with the City of London as the US Federal Reserve has do with Federal government.

A core of power, so to speak ... Real power and privately owned.

I think we're getting there.

UN
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Anonymous said...

Please go here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Li0no7O9zmE

Scroll to:- DEBT LIMIT - A GUIDE TO AMERICAN FEDERAL DEBT MADE EASY.

It looks like satire but here's the tragedy.

It ain't.

UN
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Heraclitus said...

One disappointing thing I note about the Covington site is the low number of comments. Does this mean, I presume it does, that it's not got a significant readership?

Anonymous said...

Heraclitus,
I think it's more the fear to be tracked by the traditional enemy...

R.

Anonymous said...

The guy in the bank would be fine if he could print his own money.

Anonymous said...

Regarding the Covington site, and the low incidence of comment, I think you may find that he gets a lot of hits, and has a pretty high listenership on his radio broadcasts, but a good deal of his friends and associates are targeted by the feds.

A salutary lesson would be learned by reading the history of Edger Steele, of whom the US federal govt and justice department (hah!) have made an example ... and a hobby.

The justice department and law enforcement agency involved used Steele as an experiment in how fast they could destroy the Bill of Rights.

Even now, Steele is incarcerated and subject to harassment that would have the so-called snivel rights groups filling their knickers if he was not white, male, heterosexual and over fifty.

Just one of the things Steele is convicted of is (wait for it) conspiracy to murder his own wife, even though the so-called actual hit man (an FBI plant) is out on the streets and even the so-called potential victim (Steele's wife) has called the investigation -- and the charges -- a pack of lies.

You don't often get that from a victim.

The FBI plant actually bumbled an attempt to (you're not going to believe this) sabotage the brakes of her car.
Anyone, in this day and age, who tries to off someone else with that hoary old chestnut has been reading too many Agatha Christie novels.

A reading of the case reveals many 9/11; Ruby Ridge; Oklahoma City-type "Are these arseholes taking the piss?" moments.

A search for "the story of edgar steele" reveals 300 000 000 hits.

here's just one:-

http://www.takeourworldback.com/steeleframeup.htm

See where we're heading? One of the reasons why not too many people in the US wish to comment on Covington's site.

Uncle Nasty
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Anonymous said...

I know Covington has fans here but am I the only person that thinks his main idea is a terrible one ?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I know Covington has fans here but am I the only person that thinks his main idea is a terrible one ?

19 January 2012 23:25

If, by that, you mean that his main idea is to establish a white homeland according to the 14 words of David Lane:

"The Fourteen Words is a phrase used predominantly by white nationalists. It most commonly refers to the 14-word slogan: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children",[1] and it can also refer to another 14-word slogan: "Because the beauty of the White Aryan women must not perish from the earth."[2] Both slogans were coined by David Lane, a member of the white separatist organization The Order.

The first slogan was inspired by a statement, 88 words in length, from Volume 1, Chapter 8 of Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf:

"What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the purity of our blood, the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe.
Every thought and every idea, every doctrine and all knowledge, must serve this purpose. And everything must be examined from this point of view and used or rejected according to its utility."

Wikipedia


... Then I'd say, Yup ... you're the only one.

Suck on it.

UN
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great white said...

Well, if you mean by Covington's main idea the one about a separate state in the NW, then I'm with you. Ain't gonna happen.

Anonymous said...

great white said...

Well, if you mean by Covington's main idea the one about a separate state in the NW, then I'm with you. Ain't gonna happen.

Cannot agree, there, GW.

Why? Because the tyrants become impatient. they push the agenda too fast ... they are no longer boiling the frog, they have shoved a blowtorch up its rear end.

The people who are born sheep will always remain sheep at heart but, torture and torment even a sheep, long enough -- it will turn.

And snap at you. Enough snaps ... even from sheep can prove fatal.

UN
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SAVANT said...

UN - you bear me out with my mantra: worse is better.

Anonymous said...

At 2:10 a.m. on Nov. 5, Dallaire arrived at the fence surrounding 24 Sussex Drive - and spent 20 minutes throwing stones onto the grounds and waving at security cameras that, ostensibly, were being monitored by Jean Chrétien's RCMP security staff. He then climbed the fence and proceeded to the Chrétiens' residence, where he smashed a window and entered the house. Dallaire wandered around in the basement and on the ground floor for another half-hour before going upstairs. Outside the Chrétiens' bedroom, he was confronted by the Prime Minister's wife, Aline, who quickly retreated into the bedroom, locked the door and telephoned for help - while Chrétien himself brandished an Inuit stone sculpture in case Dallaire broke through the door. Dallaire, later described by Aline Chrétien as resembling the Tom Hanks character in the 1994 movie Forrest Gump, put down his knife and waited for the RCMP to arrive - which they did, fully seven minutes later.

If the money powers wanted to remove the Canadian Prime Minister they should have got a better ASSassin.

Anonymous said...

"Cannot agree, there, GW.

Why? Because the tyrants become impatient. they push the agenda too fast ... they are no longer boiling the frog, they have shoved a blowtorch up its rear end.

The people who are born sheep will always remain sheep at heart but, torture and torment even a sheep, long enough -- it will turn.

And snap at you. Enough snaps ... even from sheep can prove fatal.

UN"


So why do you want all the sheep that have woken up to go to the one place where they can't influence any other sheep (who may be on the verge of waking up) ?

That's why I think it's a terrible idea.

fed up said...

anon 13.48. That's a good point against a white homeland in the US. But also it would be very easy to take out by the Feds. A distinct location peopled by a distinct people. Just send in the NG is they get bolshie. That's what they'd love in fact.

Anonymous said...

Fed Up, Californian and several Anonnys.

Wonderful. We are at last reaching the point where serious discussion can be had on the subject.

Notable quotes being:-

So why do you want all the sheep that have woken up to go to the one place where they can't influence any other sheep (who may be on the verge of waking up) ?

That's why I think it's a terrible idea.


and:-

anon 13.48. That's a good point against a white homeland in the US. But also it would be very easy to take out by the Feds. A distinct location peopled by a distinct people. Just send in the NG is they get bolshie. That's what they'd love in fact.

Please check this out:

http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2007/05/guest-editorial-resistance-is-futile.html

Secondly, what are your choices? Really?

1. Drain the swamp you find yourself in, singlehanded, or with a few friends. Not an easy task. Similar to running the 5000 metres, but every time you go past the start, the man with the gun shoots you in the foot. Besides, the mosquitoes and alligators breed like flies.

2. Move out of the swamp, fence your property, drain the puddles and declare every Sunday an alligator-shooting event.

3. Carry on with things as they are. i.e., let everyone else make make your decisions for you. Stay in -- or move to -- LA, Detroit.

4. Your suggestion goes here.

Folks ... I don't have to get exercised about all this.

It's not really my fight. I have no close friends in America. I have no intention of visiting the place, even on a guided tour. I am as far from America as I can get geographically, without the use of a Saturn Five.

I am not enamoured of what passes for American culture, these days. Wall-to wall porn, Big Brother, Snooki and Tranformers XXIII don't really do it for me.

Fifty, forty ... hell, even twenty years ago, I would have liked to have visited, or even lived there. Fifty states -- every one different. Spend just one month in each state and you're touring for four years.

But not now. My great regret is that I live in an era of waste. Wasted money, wasted opportunities. If it was not for the bankers and their enablers we would be reaping the real benefits of low-gravity, zero-gravity and hard-vacuum production. We would be watching broadcasts from Mars and mining the moons of Saturn.

Instead, what do we have? feral niggers kicking teenage girls to death in malls. You want to wring your hands and do nothing?

Go for it.

UN
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