Thursday, 29 April 2010

Is this the Religion of Peace?

This from John Harrison MBE. MIDSc at a recent meeting in London. There's been much debate about its authenticity but what matters is what it says is true. Anyway, take a read.

Last month I attended my annual training session for maintaining my security clearance in the prison service.There was a presentation by three speakers from the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained their beliefs.
I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say about the basics of Islam, complete with video.
After the presentations, question time. I directed my question to the Imam and asked:
'Correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a Holy War against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?'
There was no disagreement with my statement and, without hesitation, he replied, 'Non-believers!' I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not a follower of Allah, so they can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?'
The expression on his face changed from one of authority to that of 'a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the biscuit tin.' He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.' I then stated, 'Well, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope Benedict commanding all Catholics to kill Muslims, or the Archbishop of Canterbury ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in heaven!'
The Imam was speechless! I continued, 'I also have a problem with being your 'friend' when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me!
Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because He will take me to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?'
You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam remained speechless. Needless to say, the organizers of the Diversification' seminar were not happy with this way of exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs. Within twenty years, i.e.. 2029, there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.K. to elect a government of their choice, complete with Sharia law.
Everyone in the U.K. Should be required to read this, but with the current political paralysis, tolerant justice system, liberal media and p.c. madness, there is no way this will be widely publicised.
Not sure about his demographic forecasts, but the words of the "Prophet" are totally clear - we're for the chop. How the multi-culti trolls keep blinding themselves to this is beyond my comprehension


Anonymous said...

Yes, it's the message from the Religion of Peace all right.

W Baker said...


Do the politicians over there, like the ones here, see immigrants as potential voting blocs? Reagan, Bush, the First and Second, and Clinton all saw mestizos as soon-to-be party members.

The process is pretty simple: turn a blind eye as they pour across the border, turn another blind eye as they feed off the public trough, give impassioned sermons on humanity and amalgamation, and then wait for polling day and the vote.

Of course, it never quite works that way: the immigrant bloc votes for its own self interest - if they can bothered at all, the spurned politicians mutter under their breath, and the diversity talking heads wax poetic about the 'distinct culture' of xyz group.

All that said, I wonder if the majority parties in Britain and Ireland decided to counter the influx of non-European immigration with the so-called EU emigration, e.g., the Poles in Britain?

Didn't Brown in his immigration gaffe the other day say something to the effect that Britain had a million outgoing and a million incoming?

Incidentally, and not to belabour the point, but do people like Cameron, Brown and Clegg, after a couple of drinks at night - as they put their heads down on their pillows- really think that the Bangladeshi, Albanian, or Nigerian immigrant blocs are really going to vote for a half-blind, humourless, idiot Scotsman or lily white, power hungry Etonian? Do they really think they have something in common with these people, or are they just the most cynical, paternalistic bastards ever?

Pardon my ramblings.....!

kulak said...

Islam is not the problem.

If their religion wasn't Islam, what would it be?


Christians have been trying to civilize Africa for 500 years.

They will never succeed, until Africans evolve.

Fact is, Islam suits their race. And it works just fine for them, when they are among their own.

When you're talking violence from foreign minorities, the distinction between "Islam" and "dark-skinned" is a distinction without a difference, based as it is on a hypothetical that will NEVER happen: That they might in large numbers adopt some OTHER creed, a more peaceful one, AND be able to adhere to it.

The most violent muslims are of course black; lighter-skinned muslims more frequently emphasize the peaceful passages.

Anonymous said...

off topic savant, but i wish to know if the new cultural enrichers have overloaded the irish judicial system eith charges from simple theft to major crimes such as murder rape in old eire,

SAVANT said...

Wes - I'd say the reason why they let in large numbers varies by country. In Ireland we just slept at the wheel and had this pathetic pretension to 'world moral leadership'. Much like Sweden.

The UK was deliberate policy, as we now know, to create a new people and yes, who they fondly thought would be Labour-voting. They are as of now but once they get their numbers up a bit more they'll form their own factions.

As to what these wankers think when they go to sleep, well, unless they can totally discount the evidence before their eyes they'd have to be concerned, but I'd say they see it not affecting them personally. Wich is true.

SAVANT said...

kulak - all of what you say is true. The worst of all are of course the Somalis, who are flooding into the US in vast numbers.

Personally I don't have any problem with Islam itself - once it keeps to itself. Id the Somalis and Sausis and Afghans want to live the way they do, that's fine by me. It's when they start coming to the West and forcing their ways on us that I have a problem

Finnish Savant said...

"The most violent muslims are of course black"

Have you any proof of this?

Krokodil said...

No, I think Kulak is talking bollox! What evidence is there that black Muslims are the more militant? (As Finnish Savant also queries).

I am NOT anti-black, but rather anti-multiculturalism, hence am suspicious of posters or commentators who indulge in racist slurs or diatribes. Most of the serious Muslim fanatic boogey-men have NOT been black but generally lighter skinned - if I'm talking crap please edumacate me out of the error of my ways!

As far as the UK general election goes, I expect no fundamental changes, unless the disastrous Lib Dems were to end up in a position of power/influence - fact of life: democracy is only as effective as it's most ignorant effectors (sad, but true).

Henry IX said...

My view would be that Muslims who are black bring the worst of both into one - i.e. you suffer from their black characteristics and their Muslim ones.

Anonymous said...

Christians and Jews are not infidels actually because they believe in the same God as Muslims. Allah is just the Arabic for God. The Muslims consider themselves the natural conclusion of Christianity and Judaism the religions of the book.

I think its more the atheists, agnostics and pagans that better watch out. That might be most of the west these ways. Either way its not a good idea importing millions of Muslims into Europe.

feargal said...

Either way, Islam is totally incompatible with western democratic norms.

Anonymous said...

"How the multi-culti trolls keep blinding themselves to this is beyond my comprehension"

Who says that it is not on purpose?

Anonymous said...

To "W Baker"

May I politely ask you to Google the name "Andrew Neather" from October 2009.

Shaunantijihad said...

Anon, no, ilah is god, Allah is a personal name.

Qur'an 52:43 "Have they an ilah (god) other than Allah?"

Allah was the chief god of the 360 gods of the Kaaba, the Moon god, also worshipped in Ur and called Sin. When Abraham was called out of Sin, it was a calling out of false worship by Yahweh, a diiferent deity completely. But Ar-Rahman was another of the Kaaba gods, and Mo wanted the Meccans to believe they were all manifestations of the same god, so hesometimes used the name as well:

Qur'an 13:30 "They do not believe in Ar-Rahman. Tell them, 'He is my Lord. There is no other Ilah (God) but He. In Him I have placed my trust.'"

As for the peaceful bits in the Qur'an, Mo later abrogated them, saying they were from the Devil. But they are useful in lulling unsuspecting dhimmis into a false sense of security.

Qur'an:8:7 "Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: 'Wipe the infidels out to the last.'"

Qur'an:8:39 "So, fight them till all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam."

Qur'an 9:5 "When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Nice. It's really uplifting to know Cameron wants the Turks in the EU, but this is a red herring, as the EU has signed the Euro-Med pact, giving all Muslims in North Africa and the Middle East freedom to enter Europe.

Did I say, "TRAITORS!"

Anonymous said...

Islam has NEVER been a religion of peace. It's 1400 year history has been nothing but genocidal violence and bloodshed. MuhamMAD HIMSELF, not only gave the order to slaughter/enslave all the Jews of Yathrib (present Medina)and Khybar (both in the Soddy Barbarian peninsula) but took an active part in both. The problem is the ethnic cleansing, genocide and totalitarian intolerance hasn't stopped.

Anonymous said...

Some quotes from the Talmud neo-con "Irish Savant" and supporters.

Anonymous said...

"Irish Savant" is a neo-con and a jew.

Anonymous said...

"Irish Savant" is a neo-con and a jew.

yeah, right!

Annoyed Anonymous said...

As a born again atheist I get scared when these people with their "invisible" friends want to kill me.

What a way to control people :-(