Monday, 22 May 2017

The strange case of David Icke

The Orwellian closing down of unsanctified speech and thought is standard practice today as our overlords work to keep us in The Matrix, comatose and quiescent. In some of our 'liberal democracies' questioning the Narrative in even the most trivial way can land you in jail.  Which makes the case of David Icke all the more remarkable.

Icke doesn't just question the Narrative, he opens up on it with both barrels. He doesn't avoid the Third Rail, he enthusiastically leaps on it.

He writes and speaks on:


()  The globalist NWO agenda, expertly tying it in to the strategic events shaping our world such as mass immigration to White-only lands, cultural degeneracy, the EU, the UN, media control etc.

() The Rothschild/Zionist/globalist/NWO nexus

()  Israel as an illegal state which controls the USA

()  The 9/11 false flag

()  Holocaust Denial (which admittedly he subsequently rowed back on)

()  The Global Warming hoax

There's lots more of an equally offensive nature (Michelle Obama is a tranny) yet he not only survives, he thrives. His books and videos sell by the millions and he regularly speaks to monster packed-out audiences throughout the world. Sure, he gets ridiculed in the MSM and his FB was closed down. But contrast this with what happened to David Irving, Brendan O'Connell, 87 year-old Ursula Haverbeck and others too numerous to mention and the 'disappearing' of legendary author Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. Even middle-of-the-road organisations like American Renaissance find it difficult to book a hotel for a conference. Yet he not only survives, he thrives. 

Very strange, is it not?

70 comments:

Anonymous said...

It must take a sprinkling of reptilian shapeshifters, underground cities, aliens and such stuffing to make it "kosher" to the censors.

Anonymous said...

O/T Very sorry.
I think John C has been caught on camera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS-ViuLeLEg

Lemmyhead

Sussex Yeoman said...

They can always link to his appearance on Wogan back in the early 90s. To most Brits he is a joke. Also, the design of his website and theatrical style appeals to the uncredentialled despite the undoubtedly truthful nature of much of his content. There is a very rough equivalence with Alex Jones, he may speak some truth but the overall package works to discredit it.

Anonymous said...

No it is not, He is largely dis-info. Controlled opposition to make it look like if you hold or countenance any opinion contrary to the main stream you are "conspiracy theorist" a kook. A nice way of exercising censorship.
Regards,
A Munster Reader.

Anonymous said...

Ickey is an agent of the NWO.

He's their method of disseminating their near and long term goals.

The reason is simple. The elite don't really fear us.
The fear the karmic burden of their actions.
By publicising these, then we become complicit by our
own inaction.
Therefore the karmic burden is reduced.

JB said...

I think it's the mixture of his odd charisma (and the novelty value of him being a semi-pro footballer has-been TV pundit) and the alien-lizard thingies/

He gets away with the political shit because of the weird shit.

In other words, the plausible deniability that comes with the tin-foil-hat brigade territory.

NWO Chaos said...

You know, these people who say David Icke and Alex Jones and others are disinfo controlled opposition really piss me off. How the fuck exactly is someone who calls out the globalists, NWO, the jewish role, the Holocaust hoax, MSM bias - in other words WAKING PEOPLE UP - how the fuck can they be deemed the enemy?

The biggest problem proactive Whites have today is WAKING OUR PEOPLE UP. Making them question the propaganda they get brainwashed with e every second of the day. Even if some of the stuff DI comes up with is off the wall he is making huge numbers of people question. And that is what we need right now.

Sorry for all the shouting but FFS!!

heuristic said...

"It must take a sprinkling of reptilian shapeshifters, underground cities, aliens and such stuffing to make it "kosher" to the censors."

Gordon Duff of Veterans Today said pretty much the same thing.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, the crank factor makes him harmless. A normal's reaction to David I. is something like "isn't he that lizard people loonball?" so he has no credibility. No threat.

Contrast with James Watson. He would have worrying credibility so has to be punished to make it clear to normals "this guy is a Bad Man and you musn't listen to him".

Anonymous said...

"American Renaissance find it difficult to book a hotel for a nference." Good Grief Savant, I'm not surprised. Why cant they just have a conference like everyone else.
Don't ya just love a smart ass:)

Anonymous said...


Hi from France.

Icke is genuine for me, i do research for more than 15 yrs and most of the stuff in His books seem to be genuine. Anyway, he done amazing work !
(What IS strange in his books,and online claims, is that he is NOT seeing Putin
as another side of a NWO coin : this worries me !
Is he dull on this subject, or controlled ?

Putin isn't "good cop", he is devilish tyran, ex kgb man, the same conman like western fake politicians.)

But isn't these easy to criticize, but have YOU ever wrote any book or article ???

NO.

Go grab your ugly irish, anglo saxon piglet-like women, who never saw sunlight haha!

Jones is fake, i was charmed a bit by him before, but his cia family connections are
obvious : he is a "crisis actor".

Spirituality is the answer, not your racist ranting !
Personally, do not like arabs, nor muslims, but white trash is ALSO terrible,
your teories about white power will be smashed down with great cataclysm, natural catastrophy on a massive scale, which can be send to humanity soon...

But of course, my words will not be publish by redhead irish dummy, isn't it ?

Why he wasn't killed ?
Maybe, as he claims, he's got a mission to fulfill here :
so his karma isn't allowing them to take him out. That's simple...

Ray, in sunny France



Anonymous said...

"The reason is simple. The elite don't really fear us.
The fear the karmic burden of their actions.
By publicising these, then we become complicit by our
own inaction.
Therefore the karmic burden is reduced "

True.
So true that we can expect even more revelations in financial scandals, pedophilia, false flag attacks, organ and human trafficking, mass immigration of the worst elements and so on. Expect an escalation in the horrors revealed, yet the day after will be business as usual, but the karmic burden will indeed shift to us.

calculus

Anonymous said...

Icke is much like Uncle Nasty or James. A bit of truth surrounded by paranoia and excessive blaming.

Nothing he says is taken seriously by anyone worth their weight.

Anonymous said...

SAVANT,

Strange? Not really - Icke is an obvious oddball who discredits any ideas remotely connected to his (e.g. NWO/globalist conspiracy - which is hiding in plain sight and as old as mankind itself...Nimrod, Babylon, Rome...).

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/229921?utm_source=activetrail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl

JP

Anonymous said...

It is imperative to the elite, that we normal folk are in the loop.
Otherwise the cosmos would punish their evil deeds.
They have their own agents, like Ikey and Co. to push their 'wrong doings' to the masses.
This is absolutely essential to the control and survivability of these satanic people.
We are all complicit to our own ultimate destruction, at the hands of these elite, by
our own inactivity.
It dosen't matter how they 'wrap' the knowledge they feed us. For example, a few years ago
the BBC News Weather forecast, talked of "weather" bombs. How many people actually thought they meant "weaponised weather". Probably no-one, but a few like myself. We know that it is important to take these announcements literally. Same as in Ireland, during the illegal bank bail-outs. The politicians were told that if they didn't pay off these European wide private gambling debts, that " a bomb would go off in Dublin". Everyone has translated this as an analogy. No, what the message is , is what it says. A bomb would have gone off in Dublin. It doesen't matter that the masses, are unable to realise the literal nature of these announcements. By making these announcements, the karmic burden is significantly reduced by the NWO elite.

Anonymous said...

S-E-X. That's my answer. A former footballer, sports broadcaster, etc. makes him harder to shut down. So much of what (((they))) do is based on the manipulation of sex. A handsome jock revisionist who has already received the hecksher for Bread-and-Circus purposes ... is a problem. http://www.neonnettle.com/feed/images/david-icke_1117962c.jpg

John C said...

In 1999, Icke wrote and published The Biggest Secret: The Book that Will Change the World, in which he identified the extraterrestrial prison warders as reptilians from the constellation Draco. They walk erect and appear to be human, living not only on the planets they come from, but also in caverns and tunnels under the earth. They have cross-bred with humans, which has created "hybrids" who are "possessed" by the full-blooded reptilians. The reptiles' hybrid reptilian-human DNA allows them to change from reptilian to human form if they consume human blood. Icke has drawn parallels with the 1980s science-fiction series V, in which the earth is taken over by reptiloid aliens disguised as humans.


http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.phps=eb98350f436702e975a18a562facc913&t=525739

Originally Posted by Shakester The actual answer to "Where did David Icke get his ideas from?" is the film  (1988, dir John Carpenter). 

If you've seen the film, you don't need to look anywhere else for Icke's inspiration, he just took the entire premise and built a career out of regurgitating it as "fact". 

It's a good film, well worth seeing.

Just as there was no "moon-landing-hoax" conspiracy theory before  introduced the idea, there was no "reptilian alien shape shifters secretly rule the world" conspiracy theory before . 

I'm surprised we've got to page two here without anyone mentioning it. Have a look at the IMDB comments page for the film, you'll see that Icke isn't the only paranoid that thinks the film is a documentary.


I nicked/robbed all the above words off another website, the one that I linked too. So much easier, the grammar looks good, spelling is fantastic.

Icke I believe was told to play this part by the secret services, (having worked for the bbc he would have met loads there). I haven't followed any of his stuff, but watched that wogan program and thought what a prat. I was just starting to order books out of john tyndall spearhead magazine and reading about the hidden hand in governments, the 300 families etc the 90s recession was starting, the uk was being push into a European supper state EU (that nobody wanted) Thatcher was just disposed (even tho a lot of people still liked her compared to other leaders) the elite knew it was a matter of time before Britons started to wake up and start asking some awkward questions. bnp nationalism was on the horizon. Enter Icke. On bbc he goes The nation laughed. 18 years later another state asset was to appear on the bbc and get laughed at.

Apparently a little old lady went up to nutty david (he wouldn't get on a plane so started to cry, and a photographer was there to take his picture. Very distressing. He looked sad and distressed) but only just now I think that was all a put on, all an act... He worked at the bbc with Frank Bough who later was discovered in cocaine and sex drama ( who would of thought that) I remember a young asian bloke (he worked at the bbc) telling me about Frank Bough cocaine drug problem 2-3 years before it all broke in the news, it was so far fetch that this young asian kid kept saying you may laugh john but im telling the truth Frank Bough is Bang on the Gear and with that I was floored with tears in my eyes. Couldn't believe what I was hearing. To preposterous to comprehend.

Franz said...

Just a maybe-meaningful bit of trivia:

Icke sells great in the prison system.

After my dad died about a decade ago we had a sort of "internet yard sale" and I handled the books. Dad had a sideline business and books in the thousands. We sold a hundred or so, probably at a loss, but...

David Icke and David Duke are the two most popular writers in the US prison system. Sold all we had of Duke to jail. The two Davids (I've read Duke's My Awakening and 2 of Icke's tomes) actually dove-tail. Reading both can fill the blanks in either.

And no kidding, it's actually an ancient Hebrew scribe tactic called the "pesher method", using two or more texts together, each throwing light to understand the other, each allowing us to read between the lines to see the whole. In this case, David D. provides the overall "real-world" context, which combined with David I.'s often gruesome if sometimes fantasy version, makes a complete story.

Amongst Whites in the US prison system, the Two Davids seem as popular as Elvis Presley, who is a perennial.

Can I be certain US convicts use it this way? No, they have a lower than average IQ in aggregate, for starters. But again, lots of Euro-American prisoners would be considered "political" in an honest country. One local pro-Aryan pro-militia guy got sent up for a trivial drug "crime" that would have been laughed off or only fined had he been a lemming.

So I can dream, as Elvis sang once, that our insane prison system is vetting a whole pile of pro-European revolutionaries.

Anonymous said...

Icke is cleverer than people give him credit for. He's actually very savvy about how he words things as to make it difficult to prosecute him, even with their political/kangaroo courts.

Kenneth said...

Random thoughts (some of which maybe belong on other threads that I missed, but that’s never stopped some people!)…

** On David Icke: I agree with most posters above. As Sussex Yeoman says “he may speak some truth but the overall package works to discredit it.” So in some respects he serves the Jew World Order whether he knows it or not, although they probably are watching him closely, and he’s been attacked for “anti-semitism” a few times.

** Icke seems to be one of these people who claim Zionism is somehow different from Judaism, and that ordinary Jews are as much a victim of Zionism as everyone else. My response: I don’t care about Jews, I care about Whites and what the Jews are doing to us. Icke’s forum seems to allow race-realism though. Is there any evidence out there of Icke’s views on race?

** NWO Chaos asks how anyone can view Icke and Alex Jones as disinfo agents when they are “waking people up”. The argument would be that in many cases they are not in fact waking people up; they are taking people who are already “waking up” and sending them in the wrong direction. Alex Jones in particular went to ridiculous lengths for years to blame things on everyone but the Jews. The Nazi Germanic Illuminati death cult or something was his favourite scapegoat I believe.

** Having said all that I find Icke and Jones difficult to dislike. And I know they have helped awaken some people. I still can’t quite understand how though, but maybe that’s because I arrived here via the counter-jihad movement, much to my embarrassment. But you can understand, right? You can understand how someone could go from political apathy to being repulsed by the sight of aggressive Muslims marching through our cities while weakling politicians and journalists tell us how great it is? How does someone go from political apathy to worrying about globalists putting us in FEMA camps without passing through some sort of identitarian stage?

** “The Editor” has a great video on YouTube called “Jew Shock: When Whites Go Wonky”. He is a Zimbabwean (I think), and has produced several great videos, and he says that when as a young man he realised that “the system” was not was he was brought up to believe it was, he responded by (as he himself admits) wasting decades of his life on mad alternative theories. This is probably fairly common, so we should I think feel sympathetic when we see it.

** But … but … I’ll echo some of the other commenters on previous threads and ask: do we really need to have so much Christian Identity nonsense among the comments on this blog? We Whites are under attack by a parasitic race called the Jews. It’s biological. All the Christianity talk just serves to confuse and to repel newbies.

AnalogMan said...

What is going on on this blog lately? One day it's wall-to-wall bible verses, today half the posters have a bee in their collective bonnet about a "karmic burden". I doubt very much that the bad guys are worried by either.

A couple of random thoughts:

Still a lot of anonymous comments. It looks like a concerted troll invasion. I've got to say, guys, we're used to a better quality of trolls here. Why are they sending us their B team, now? I'm quite insulted.

As for Ray in sunny (sic) France, I'm not sure what to make of him, yet. He's all over the place. Calling us racists is a black mark; not because we care, but because he apparently thinks we should care. Sorry, Sunshine, you're wasting your time.

Re: "women, who never saw sunlight haha!", don't be so smug. I'm from (actual) Sunny South Africa, and my skin shows it. A few years ago, I visited my sister in Norway, and I was blown away by the complexions of those Nordic "women, who never saw sunlight haha!" They'll still be beautiful when your French women look like prunes. Not that it will matter, since you French just voted to become a mongrel, mud-coloured nation. Your women are going to be ugly, forever.

James said...

Miles Mathis does a background check on just about anyone and finds they are related to lords and ladies of England's past. Lots of "personages very different to what most people imagine them to be"* also.

I'm not sure about Mathis. Nobody is, but he is entertaining.

http://mileswmathis.com/icke.pdf


*Quoting Disraeli.

James said...

Icke is much like Uncle Nasty or James. A bit of truth surrounded by paranoia and excessive blaming.

Nothing he says is taken seriously by anyone worth their weight.


I agree. He is completely ignored especially by the people who talk about him all the time.

Anonymous said...

22 May 2017 at 21:50

"All the Christianity talk just serves to confuse and to repel newbies."

It's not that confusing really.

All of Antichrist will be put on trial and given a penance, according to their sins.

Of course, to the most vile sinners go the most harsh penance

Unrepentant kikes, bolsheviks, and neo-nazis will be burnt at the stake, after a fair trial, of course.

These sinners will appreciate the irony of the ordeal, when they choke to death from the fumes of their own stinking flesh, which is all they ever loved.

Don't worry. I'm sure you will repent.

James said...

B'nai B'ritain

So if it's not ___, then who is it?


Around twenty years ago I asked a young Spanish woman how most of her compatriots viewed the British. She curled her lip and uttered one word: "Tattoos". Two years ago I visited Spain for the first time since 2009, and found tattoos pretty much ubiquitous among the natives, male and female. Mocking, as they say, is catching. If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, the British should feel very flattered indeed.


People with tattews are better and I'm berating my betters again. Sorry.

https://www.henrymakow.com/2017/05/conservatism-coopted.html

Anonymous said...

Democrats in panic over Seth Rich.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-22/seth-rich-plot-thickens-dc-insider-confirms-complete-panic-highest-levels-dnc

James said...

Trump again, what's going on?

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/05/21/donald-of-arabia-a-disgusting-spectacle/

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Note his very first public appearance on British version of Carson..complete mockery of Jesus of Nazareth.
Very simple.

Anonymous said...

http://mileswmathis.com/icke.pdf

"...In my opinion, Icke is from the families he is pretending to out, and his project is to blackwash conspiracy theories in general, by making them look as whacky as possible. This is what all the Reptilian shape-changer stuff is about. Like Ezra Pound, Bill Cooper, Eustace Mullins, and hundreds of others, Icke is an Anti, sent in to sully-by-association anyone who allies themselves to him, or resembles him in any way. They want to be sure that anyone who researches Jewish subjects, in whatever way, can be tarred and feathered with the same pot as Icke. I think that it is possible that, like Pound, Icke may someday soon be instructed to go completely mad, ending up in a mental institution.
This will finally and abruptly blackwash all his statements about Zionists. But since he has appeared half-mad all along, this may not be necessary."

ReverentHermes said...

Read most of Ickes books and must say they are entertaining. They are a good introduction to this matrix we find ourselves in and Icke explains many things in a very articulate and intelligent manner. However, unless you have a really open mind, his info can easily be misunderstood and filed away as fantasy and sci-fi. This would be akin to throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Icke mixes the esoteric with the physical reality we operate in. Too much to take in for the uninitiated. If Icke had just stuck to one or the other, his impact would have been so much greater.
With ref to Alex Jones, well, any intelligent individual can see he is a blustering windbag. Not hard to figure out who he really works for. His ex wife is a Jew, his kid is a Jew, the building he operates out of ( possibly rent free ) is Jew owned.....need I imply more?
Nice to see a comment from a cheese eating surrender monkey named Ray. No credibility can be attached to the French nation as they have given away their land so easily. I guess no European is surprised that the French were the first to 'surrender'.

Corkonian said...

Reverend Hermes...this would be my take on him as well. He actually does research his material very well. In fact a lot better than many of the 'respectable' researchers. But he does go off the rails a bit all right.

AKAEW said...

Anonymous NWO Chaos said...
You know, these people who say David Icke and Alex Jones and others are disinfo controlled opposition really piss me off. How the fuck exactly is someone who calls out the globalists, NWO, the jewish role, the Holocaust hoax, MSM bias - in other words WAKING PEOPLE UP - how the fuck can they be deemed the enemy?

The biggest problem proactive Whites have today is WAKING OUR PEOPLE UP. Making them question the propaganda they get brainwashed with e every second of the day. Even if some of the stuff DI comes up with is off the wall he is making huge numbers of people question. And that is what we need right now.

Sorry for all the shouting but FFS!!

22 May 2017 at 14:36

Stop being so naive.

It is precisely because the actual truth is interwoven with the weird shit that makes him a NWO agent. For every one that you claim is "woken up" a million are turned off. Forever.

When you hide the truth in plain sight but paint it with shit what will it look like to the average observer?

Just like in SA. The AWB were raised up precisely to portray an undesirable caricature of "Afrikaner Nationalism" which was the sole reason for breaking the back of Afrikaner Nationalism. Nobody wanted to be associated with them because for whatever truth they represented they wrapped it up in a cloak of buffoonery.

Bury the truth and it will keep surfacing. Spray it in nasty smelling excreent and nobody will go near it.

FFS is that so hard to grasp?

Dave33 said...

"Is there any evidence out there of Icke’s views on race?"

He hasn't said much about it directly but everything about what he says suggests that he 'knows'. His message that we're being systematically destroyed by globalists does everything but make the racism element explicit.. Remember he has to be aware of the "hate" laws.

John C said...


Correction,

Just as there was no "moon-landing-hoax" conspiracy theory before the film Capricorn One  introduced the idea, there was no "reptilian alien shape shifters secretly rule the world" conspiracy theory before icke stupid comments.

The actual answer to "Where did David Icke get his ideas from?" is the film They Live  (1988, dir John Carpenter). 

Apparently the official story at the time was a little old lady went up to nutty david after he wouldn't get on a plane, so he started to cry, he had a breakdown at the airport and a photographer happen to be there to take his picture. Very distressing. He looked sad and distressed.. she gave him a big carrier bag full of conspiracy books a couple of weeks after his airport breakdown. It is only just now that I think that was all a put on, all an act for the story to be plausible to those that were just waking up to the hidden hand in governments, it also help the vast majority of people to mock anyone that held these conspiracy views ( minus the lizard talk). So david icke is a Government Psyops Agent, so should be mocked and not tolerated, along with anyone that promotes flat earth or promotes the holohoax.

eah said...

Alas, another thread full of comments by "Anonymous".

Here's how to comment anonymously but not as "Anonymous": 1) Select "Name/URL"; 2) Choose whatever moniker you like (mine is eah, which are my initials, but can choose pretty much any text string you want), and enter it in the "Name" box; 3) Note a "URL" is optional, so you can leave it blank; 4) Then preview and/or publish your comment.

How complicated is that?

@Lemmyheard, @A Munster Reader, @All others who comment here as "Anonymous" -- please take note.

I am not too familiar with Icke, so I don't know -- I think the powers-that-be concentrate their attention on those whom they see as the greatest threat -- they try to destroy them, which given how most people have been propagandized is not too difficult -- eg look at how the BBC labels Marine Le Pen "far right" in every report about her: everyone knows what that means -- so perhaps Icke is not deemed threatening enough.

Anonymous said...

Where do you hide a book?

Answer...In a library.

If you have the knowledge to read between the lines, you will see that Ickey has the important
info. hidden in plain site. For example, he talks of lizard people and shape shifters. He's talking about demonic entities. These are "inter-dimensional", NOT extra-terrestrial.

Anonymous said...

Ickey is either a shill, or not on top of his game.

He still preaches the Spinning Globe Earth Helio centric model of the universe.
Us enlightened people, know that the earth is neither spinning, nor a sphere / globe,
and certainly does not orbit the sun.

Anonymous said...

I am not too familiar with Icke, so I don't know -- I think the powers-that-be concentrate their attention on those whom they see as the greatest threat -- they try to destroy them, which given how most people have been propagandized is not too difficult -- eg look at how the BBC labels Marine Le Pen "far right" in every report about her: everyone knows what that means -- so perhaps Icke is not deemed threatening enough.

A Ha, another anonymous for your good self.

Fifty years ago , Marine Le Pen would have been 'centre-ist'. The extreme left is now occupying centre field.

Six Million Dollar Man said...

Mkultra, and Iraqi Suicide Bombers
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread183520/pg1
--------------------------------------------------------------------
To the naysayers, MK-Ultra is real as the bio of former Irish gangster Whitey Bulger proves.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2011/07/07/i-team-whitey-bulger-volunteered-for-lsd-testing-while-in-prison-in-1950s/
Note the zio-masonic controlled CIA is experimenting in the US prison system where US Blacks are recruited/converted to Islam

Anonymous said...

Answering John C's message.

John if you still believe the Spinning Globe model, then you are still a baby,
or scientifically and observationally stunted.
Same with your use of HoloHoax term. Maybe we should TM this too.

Anonymous said...

I've just heard our glorious leaders response to the Manchester bomb. From what she said I gather that it was not set off by anybody and they didn't have a reason for doing it. At least she doesn't mention these facts.

"For example, he talks about lizard people and shape shifters." I thought it was an analogy to the Jews. Shape shifting being the Khazars becoming Jews.

Eah. Could you explain again in greater detail.

Lemmyhead

Searcher said...

Nice to see a comment from a cheese eating surrender monkey named Ray. No credibility can be attached to the French nation as they have given away their land so easily. I guess no European is surprised that the French were the first to 'surrender'.

They'll still be beautiful when your French women look like prunes. Not that it will matter, since you French just voted to become a mongrel, mud-coloured nation. Your women are going to be ugly, forever.


I don't believe that "Ray in Sunny France" is French. I believe Ray is a troll from a different ethnicity, identifying for triangulation purposes here as French: to push every other nationality away from French people. Actually, if you read it again, he never said he was French. He said he was in France and hello from France. "Ray" - Ray of Sunshine?

Why would I not believe he is French? Men tend to exaggerate any feature they find attractive in a woman. Skincare is a massive business in France and something at which French people excel: the top skincare ranges are French. White skin that is not sundamaged is typically seen as very attractive. So the skin comment does not seem legitimately French.

"Go grab your ugly irish, anglo saxon piglet-like women, who never saw sunlight haha!

Spirituality is the answer, not your racist ranting !
Personally, do not like arabs, nor muslims, but white trash is ALSO terrible,
your teories about white power will be smashed down with great cataclysm, natural catastrophy on a massive scale, which can be send to humanity soon...

But of course, my words will not be publish by redhead irish dummy, isn't it ?"


"Piglet-like" is not something someone with a poor grammatical foundation in English would come up with. "Pig women" would be an easier term to use.

If in doubt, use the MAWB test. If the person "May As Well Be" a paid troll, then severely discount this part of their message: the "identifying as a French person" part. If a paid troll came here with the purpose of eliciting slagging off of French people, he managed.

If prompted to insult a people you had no intention of insulting prior to some comment, you are probably best off not engaging with that comment.

We all have (or can access) attitudes that are not so kind to each nationality. I guarantee that everyone here could pick at least 3 insulting things they could say about any White nationality. It's easy peasy. And this is why a "hive mind" works. Because it doesn't respond as easily to goading. If this commmenter is in fact French, then so what? Everyone has morons in their society and so just file him under MAWB and treat him as such.

Men typically want to fight an explicit enemy with a uniform on so as to know who they are fighting against and themselves identify with a uniform to know who is on their side. But come on, a "uniform" on the internet is easily contrived.

Just waiting now for more anti-Russian, anti-Iranian, anti-Putin commentary (it's been a while). Huh? "Ray from Sunny France" got in his hating on Putin bit. Chapeau!

As an aside ...

"Cheese eating surrender monkeys: Jonah Goldberg, a conservative American National Review journalist, used it as the title of an April 1999 column called "Top Ten Reasons to Hate the French".[8] In the run-up to and during the Iraq War, Goldberg reprised it to criticize European nations and France in particular for not joining the United States in its invasion and occupation of Iraq.[1]

Jonah Goldberg hmmm. Is he one of those big, fat, stupid Americans?

^^^

See what I mean. Jonah prompts hate and insult for Americans (he prompts a backlash). He is provocative, like Sunny Ray.

John C said...

See how it gets tied into real historical facts. Its all nutty, loopy, cranky.
How any one bought this mans books I'll never know. Probably don't even own one decent David Irving book.
Apparently, Nutty Dave is worth 10 mill. Thanks to book sales and other merchandise. Good going, whilst other serious real history authors get caught in his ridicule.
I'd be embarrassed to have a book of his on my bookself.


Some people have taken offense to Icke, claiming that "shape-shifting lizard-people" is a code word for "Jews". Icke claims that he is not anti-Semitic and that when he says "shape-shifting lizard-people," he quite literally means lizards, saying to Ronson in 2001: "There is a tribe of people interbreeding, which do not relate to any Earth race ... This is not a Jewish plot. This is not a plot on the world by Jewish people."

He does believe the virulently antisemitic Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a true document, although he argues that it was not about Jews, because "Jew" (ironically, given the accusation of coded anti-Semitism) was supposedly a code word for actual lizards.

Although he hangs around with some rather fringe right-wing nutcases (Lol), he balances it all out by being just as insane a believer in New Age mumbo-jumbo. He also has been flirting with Holocaust denial, but in Icke's case it's less likely a sign of anti-Semitism than yet another manifestation of all-round insanity.(Lol)

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/David_Icke

John C said...

Anon at 13:05

Answering John C's message.

John if you still believe the Spinning Globe model, then you are still a baby,
or scientifically and observationally stunted.
Same with your use of HoloHoax term. Maybe we should TM this too.

Any links ? To wise me up some what.

Anonymous said...

Manchester bomb is usual government / secret service full spectrum exercise / hoax.

They will do this again in Northern Ireland, when it's time for re-unification, which
goes contrary to the wishes of Protestants and Catholics alike.

They will find an old disused primary school, somewhere out in Presbyterian bad lands,
and stage a fake attack, 'killing' loads of teachers and pupils.
Crisis actors abound, for the Media frenzy.

Then All parties, North, South and UK wide, declare that we must show our "Unitedness", in the face of evil, by hugging a "Fenian bastard".
United Ireland.
Job done.

ReverentHermes said...

I think many people here are missing the point with Icke. He is associating occultism ( shapeshifters / inter-dimensional beings ) with the elite who control our lives and set the agendas. Have we not already seen what this means....'pizzagate' and 'pedogate' in the States, Saville and his royal friends, the Hampstead kids cover-up and the outing of former PM Ted Heath in the UK, the murdered babies and infants in 'religious institutions' here in Ireland, etc, etc. In some way Icke is touching on these matters and he is not shy in associating Zionism with Qabaalism/Satanism either.
Savant asked 'how does he get away with it?' when others are shut down or murdered. Just because he'gets away with it' as is inferred in the question, does not mean he is a shill nor an agent. I believe he has made a few bob for himself from his tours and books. Should we begrudge him that if the message is waking people up? I also know that he has been barred from many countries and events. It seems that if you are successful in spreading the message, you are questioned....just look at Henry Makow for instance. Some people on here have commented that he is a shill! So you're condemned if you do or you don't!
I think we should be happy that Icke is waking many people up. Even if he is condemned by the mocking bird media as a kook. Even if his message is a mixture of esoteric occultism and materialism on this physical plain. More power to him....

Anonymous said...

Maybe (((they))) leave him alone because most people dismiss him. I disclose that I do not have an opinion of him one way or the other. But, I do listen.

Anonymous said...

A message to the few Anonymous that still won't use a name. Even after our Great Leader made a point for people not to keep using Anonymous they still do it. There comes a time when you cannot be bothered to keep politely asking these ignorant people to play by the rules. So out comes the gun. Do you understand now Anonymous. Ive had it with you lot, you just will not play by the rules will you.

Californian said...

The advantage to Conspiracy Theory is that it allows one to organize many disparate events into a coherent narrative. Even if the details of The Conspiracy are bogus, they get people to see the Bigger Picture.

For example: mass third world immigration, political correctness, refugee "crises," Rotherham-Cologne, and etc., all add up to a war against White people. Whether or not globalized elites are lizard people is irrelevant; what counts is that those elites are hostile to Whites.

The disadvantage to Conspiracy Theory is in taking the map and assuming it to be the terrain.

Anonymous said...

Please respect my right to call myself Anonymous.
Do I have to change my name by deed poll to please some people!
Put your pea shooter away, before you do yourself some harm, and
no, we don't play by the rules. I suggest you don't either.

SAVANT said...

'Please respect my right to call myself Anonymous.'

Neither I nor anybody else disputes your right to post as anonymous. Just make it easier to understand the comment train if you select a moniker.

Brewster said...

I would have hoped that anyone savvy enough to read Savant would have been able to look at the evidence for a flat earth and dismiss it after some honest research. Sorry, but the flat earthers' gullibility get on my tits.

Anonymous said...

...Icke is 100%...FROM THE GROUND 'up'...UTTERLY AND TOTALLY BLOODLINE CONNECTED! Gettin' it now??

May I direct your attention to a very timely, recent piece on this very matter by Miles Mathis...'they' never harm their 'own'. Also, with regard to 'some others within the 'Alt' media community' whom you are being 'told'...'go to jail'...are there long enough for a photo op, usually...and that is it.

Of course...YOU and I...are still PAYING FOR IT ALL...in more ways than one....Anonymous

AnalogMan said...

Anonymous said...

Please respect my right to call myself Anonymous.

Don't be a jerk. It was a simple request. Not a question of rights, but simply of manners.

Savant has rights, too, including the right not to publish anonymous comments.

Six Million Dollar Man said...

To add to the Mind Control/Psychological drugs that most "mass shooters" are on, and the MK-Ultra type "Suicide Bombings" this latest muslim refugee golem was on a "Government Watch List" and or was being monitored (handled?) as are most. Coincidence?

John C said...

...Icke is 100%...FROM THE GROUND 'up'...UTTERLY AND TOTALLY BLOODLINE CONNECTED! Gettin' it now??

May I direct your attention to a very timely, recent piece on this very matter by Miles Mathis...'they' never harm their 'own'. 

Come on now stop being silly, im silly sometimes but this is taking the biscuit. Icke is no bloodline nonsense. Stop reading miles its all cranky and so are you. Icke comes from a average working class family, he was a goalkeeper in professional football who happen to have arthritis, so really didn't make the grade. He then made it into television talking sport back in the late 70s-80s (one of the first to do so, but was no big name) many ex footballers have done so since, no big deal. He was probably approached whilst at the bbc by the security services or when he was dabbling in politics with the Green party in the late 80s, it happens, they get whispered into their earholes that they are good with their Gobs, so go and talk shit about whatever, good bit of dosh to be made and their backs are covered. No big deal. It happens.

Anonymous said...

John C said..

Come on now stop being silly, im silly sometimes but this is taking the biscuit. Icke is no bloodline nonsense. Stop reading miles its all cranky and so are you. Icke comes from a average working class family, he was a goalkeeper in professional football who happen to have arthritis, so really didn't make the grade.

When we went to Parliamentary Democracy, the divine right of the monarchy, went
over to covert. The Monarchy installed their own illegitimate heirs into high positions
of the new order.
See Boris Johnson and David Cameroon on the TV show "What Jew Do You Think You Are?".
In fact, I'd hazzard a guess that even the winners of X Factor and BGT etc. are
illegitimate blood lines, and they don't even know it.
Look at that Neanderthal, Olly Murs ( not sure if he won, but was launched by a talent show ). I'd say to Olly, just because your great great grand mother was banged by a Rothschild or 'fill in blank'..............

PB said...

"The advantage to Conspiracy Theory is that it allows one to organize many disparate events into a coherent narrative. Even if the details of The Conspiracy are bogus, they get people to see the Bigger Picture."

The "New World Order" AKA Deep State.

Once crazy Internet conspiracy theory, now a given. Not even open to credible dispute anymore.

John C said...

Yeah but Olly Murs was good, you could see that he had talent, that's why me and the Mrs voted for him at the time.

J Bull said...

A minute silence being held all over Britain today.

That'll show the jihadi's.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous

Brewster said...
I would have hoped that anyone savvy enough to read Savant would have been able to look at the evidence for a flat earth and dismiss it after some honest research. Sorry, but the flat earthers' gullibility get on my tits.

23 May 2017 at 22:37

OK, Brewster. Why don't aircraft exploit the Westerly 'earth spin', that launched space craft do. At Equatorial sites, launched space craft supposedly get an extra 1000 mph 'free' boost, towards their 17,500 mph orbital velocity.
How, does a passenger jet, taking off at a high latitude airport, such as Reykjavik, 64 degrees North, manage to gain enough Westerly component of velocity, to traverse down to land at Lagos, Nigeria, for example. The aircraft would take off with a 'free' Westerly speed component of , say 250 mph, and have to have increased this to about 900 mph, in order to match the earth's crust, higher speed of rotation, nearer the equator.
Considering the top speed of a passenger jet is around 600 mph, how would it cope?
The above, assumes, the very unlikely assumption, that over millions of years, that the atmosphere has become in perfect synchronisation, with the spining earth's crust beneath it.
Please answer me these questions.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous
26 May 2017 at 11:07

Proving the Earth is not Flat - Part 4 - Easy Experiments
VoysovReason 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VFU1A88N_6I



Mad Max 2000 said...

Replying to.....

Proving the Earth is not Flat - Part 4 - Easy Experiments
VoysovReason

Watched the video. The makers don't understand 'perspective'. Any way didn't see anything about air travel. So waste of time , really. People who still believe in the spinning globe
heliocentric model, just prove that 'elite' programming of the masses has been extremely effective, over the last 500 years.

Anonymous said...


You give real “truthers” a bad name and these are the things that the elites use to make legit “truthers” look insane. They are loving it and I’m flat out telling the truth.

https://authenticenlightenment.com/2015/04/07/flat-earth-theory-and-why-its-not-real/

Anonymous said...


Psychological warfare, or the basic aspects of modern , have been known by many other names or terms, including MISO, Psy Ops, Political Warfare, "Hearts and Minds", and propaganda. The term is used "to denote any action which is practiced mainly by psychological methods with the aim of evoking a planned psychological reaction in other people".  Various techniques are used, and are aimed at influencing a target audience's value system, beliefsystem, emotions, motives, reasoning, or behavior. It is used to induce confessions or reinforce attitudes and behaviors favorable to the originator's objectives, and are sometimes combined with black operationsor false flag tactics. It is also used to destroy the morale of enemies through tactics that aim to depress troops' psychological states. Target audiences can be governments, organizations, groups, and is not just limited to soldiers. Civilians of foreign territories can also be targeted by technology and media so as to cause an effect in the government of their country.

Anonymous said...



Why Does The Earth Spin?
Veritasium 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TQxeutcYP6I

Malcolm Fenton said...

Henry Makow quoted some victim of Grover mind control abuse who was told "You could be the next David Icke" (cannot find the reference atm) i.e. ergo D.I. is part of the problem.

I think it was Mark Twain who said it is much easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled.

Anonymous said...

David Ike once claimed he was the son of god and that makes him a crackpot, thereafter he automatically discredits everything he associated with. and that makes him useful.

Brewster said...

Anonymous flat earther said:

"OK, Brewster. Why don't aircraft exploit the Westerly 'earth spin', that launched space craft do. At Equatorial sites, launched space craft supposedly get an extra 1000 mph 'free' boost, towards their 17,500 mph orbital velocity.
How, does a passenger jet, taking off at a high latitude airport, such as Reykjavik, 64 degrees North, manage to gain enough Westerly component of velocity, to traverse down to land at Lagos, Nigeria, for example. The aircraft would take off with a 'free' Westerly speed component of , say 250 mph, and have to have increased this to about 900 mph, in order to match the earth's crust, higher speed of rotation, nearer the equator.
Considering the top speed of a passenger jet is around 600 mph, how would it cope?
The above, assumes, the very unlikely assumption, that over millions of years, that the atmosphere has become in perfect synchronisation, with the spining earth's crust beneath it.
Please answer me these questions."


Firstly, I'm not aware there are any flights to the southern hemisphere from Rekjavik so that's a bad example. However, the angular speed of the earth's rotation at a given point on the globe is found by multiplying the cosine of the latitude by the speed at the equator. For Rekjavik, that would be (using your figures) the cosine of 64 x 1000 mph. That works out at 438mph, not 250mph. Maybe you want to try again?