Wednesday, 11 February 2015

The Question That Dares Not Speak Its Name

It seems the penny is dropping with many Irish people that this diversity thingy mightn't be all it's cracked up to be. That, heretical as it may seem, there could be some downsides to all of this cultural enrichment. Here's Dr. Catriona Henchion of the Irish Family Planning Association. "Up to 10 years ago the chances of anybody in Ireland seeing this [female genital mutilation] was extremely rare so it's not part of our medical education".

So the IFPA has opened a free (read: funded by the beleaguered Irish taxpayer) clinic devoted solely to the treatment of FGM. Under this arrangement patients 'are fast-tracked to a female specialist who performs the required surgery free of charge'. Now you must understand that in Ireland at present there are gigantic waiting lists for medical treatment, with many severely ill patients forced to lie for day after day on trolleys in hospital corridors. Even when they've paid for health insurance.  But hey, that might be ok for Irish patients but not for our Nigerian and Somali guests.

So why don't they try to stop FGM? Here's Dr. Catriona again."We have to be respectful and non-judgemental." But of course!  Can't upset their cultural sensitivities now can we as they hack away at young girls' rudey bits? "We tend to shy away from asking a patient directly where they come from because you'd be afraid you had views on their race which might discriminate against them." Adding, "yes, it takes longer but it's worth it." Of course it is. What could be better than having an army of non-offended Somalis in your neighbourhood?

Then we celebrate the Religion Of Peace, "Ireland's fastest growing death cult religion."  From the Independent we learn that a the police have "a dedicated unit which is quietly building close ties with the Irish (sic) Muslim community as fears of terror attacks by Muslim extremists spread across Europe."  Right so Ireland's police, already labouring under reduced numbers, have dedicated a whole unit to focus on our Mulsim enrichers.

And we learn from the same report that "it is hoped the unit will speak with disillusioned Jihadists who return to Ireland." And, in a comment sure to have you grinding your teeth in fury the unit head adds 'if someone did come back in the morning I'd love to talk to them about their experience."  Presumably he has some technical questions about the finer points of beheading prisoners and the fuel used to burn that pilot alive. "Yes, if they'd like to meet with us we'd like to talk to them, reassure them and talk about what happened."

And now they'll need to be reassured because some terrible news has emerged. Apparently 'the recent spate of terror attacks have (sic - typical semi-literate 'journalist') resulted in an increase in hate mail arriving at the country's mosques and Muslims are being targeted with insults and abuse'. How awful!  Forget about the bombings, beheadings and burnings. The poor dears are being insulted. Can't have that.

So back to the title of this post and the Question That Dares Not Speak Its Name. And that question is: What the hell are all of those genital mutilators and Jihadi terrorists doing in Ireland?  After all, they can't be legitimate refugees because Ireland has no direct links with any of the hell holes the enrichers emerged from.

Maybe King Rat Shatter could help them?

But no need. Because that question is never ever ever asked, not even indirectly, in the free press of which the West is so proud.

92 comments:

Iron Felix said...

It is insane, this whole thing. Talk to any feminist (see Fred Reed on this) and bring up this question of screaming adolescent girls being subjected to blood-spattered clitorectomies with out anaesthetic and done with rusty blades, and she will shrug it aside. Hazard the idea that there seems to be some anecdotal evidence to suggest that males seem to be a bit handier with mathematics than females and, her face navy with rabid hate and rage, she will try to tear your eyes out. Strange, eh.

Ghengis Can't said...

Unrelated topic but Jewish kiddie fiddlers are being investigated in Oz:
http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=85438

00:39 said...

Nice punchy last paragraph there, Savant. You're dead right of course-about everything.

Anonymous said...

Muslims suffer in Muslim majority countries so they want to go to Muslim m inority countries and suffer there.

nilus said...

Rotherham abuse whistleblower was threatened by police & given "race awareness training"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMzH8_x_MfQ

Flanders said...

There are similarities addressed in the diversity dramas which are similar to those with homosexual aspects. Neither stand alone in being pushed upon the West, and proponents of both are using similar methods, for both are "components of a complex of subversion, the various parts of which fit into one another as do the pieces of a Chinese puzzle".
The words are those of Revilo P Oliver.


"Is it possible that we, men of the West, members of the only race that has had the intelligence and discipline to master many of the powers of nature, are too stupid to preserve our own civilization? Is it not fantastic that we, who alone can create such intricate mechanisms as electronic computers and automatic factories, should so demean ourselves as to grovel among savages in the filthy hole called the “United Nations”? That we, who have mastered the atom and hold in our hands the lightnings of nuclear power, should cower before the brutish hordes of Genghis Khan — cower in the insane act of handing our weapons to our eternal enemies? That we, who alone of all races can look far into the infinite universe and can now measure with precision the vast quasi-stars (quasars) that lie at the unimaginable distance of six billion light-years, should enslave ourselves to creatures whose rudimentary minds can never truly comprehend the simple principles that we learn in childhood?"
---

"...[T]he international vermin have been working for centuries, with the secrecy and patience of termites, to destroy Western civilization by eating away all its beams and rafters — by debauching and defiling every part of our culture from art and music to science and philosophy; and they have worked above all to destroy morality, the foundation on which all civilization must rest. That much is certain. The only question is how much of our present plight is the result of the termites’ work and thus reparable, if we still have the will and strength to act in time, and how much is the result of natural rot, through biological deterioration or human unwillingness to bear for long the burden of high civilization, and therefore inevitable."

http://nationalvanguard.org/2015/02/oliver-on-homosexuality/

Anonymous said...

Religion of peace.genital mutilation? you dont have to look any further then the Convent in Galway where the pigeon looking cunt nuns were mudering babies and other "undesiralbes" because of the sin of illigetimacy, a guy told me that they ran out of room with there DIY solution with the problem and the bones of the little ones were up to the brim of the cess pool,so at this time Ireland has no cause to point fingers at anyone before this situation is addressed and some one gets locxked up for murder and concealing a crime....

Dan said...

The doctors should let the botched cliterectomy lead to death. Allow the negress to bleed to death. Then string up the parents for murder.

That way we can compost the entire family legally and safely.

Dan said...

Don't you have M16s buried all over Ireland in the event of a British Invasion?

Why not use the guns for a real invader?

Denise said...

On the previous thread Eimear inquired about Nilus' apparent alcohol addiction, and his sexuality. I don't think nilus is a poof, of course I don't know for sure - only those who know him in the 3d world would be in a position to either confirm or deny it.
Is he a drunk? That is obvious, and he has admitted to having an alcohol problem that inhibits him from being a productive White man. Most importantly, he is childless, and he needs to start behaving like a man and NOT a boy.

Anonymous said...

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/12/who-pulls-the-strings-of-femen-and-pussy-riot/

The Brazilian woman, Sara Winter, said that Femen was not what it claimed to be. “Femen Ukraine works as a company or a marketing agency. It is not a social movement. They may have had real good intentions in the past, but nowadays it is entirely corrupted.”

She released a damning email chat in which the Ukrainian leader Inna Shevchenko complained about the sub-par appearance of the Brazilian girls. “(The protest) in the embassy was not sexy because the panties were too tight and the girls appeared to be fat. Be aware of that”, warned the Ukrainian to the Brazilian. (source Opera Mundi)

http://i.imgur.com/1TVVwm7.png

The truth is out there/

Shaunantijihad said...

The traitors and invaders have no fear of the White man. It's that simple.

Imagine instead, a credible Caucasian Army commander issued a statement, backed by ruthless force:

"All those aiding and abetting the illegal demographic invasion of Caucasian territory will be forcibly deported to Pakistan or Somalia. Out of respect for your family rights, your immediate family will go with you. There will be no right of return."

Anonymous said...

Savant, I am a bit confused. When you report that female genital mutilation cases are fast tracked in the Irish health system do you mean that enrichers wanting this done to their daughters are fast tracked?

Or is it that young girls presenting with botched back yarf proceedures are fast tracked.

fight_back said...

"Muslims suffer in Muslim majority countries so they want to go to Muslim minority countries and suffer there."

You could have added that they then want to make the countries they fled to just like those they fled from.

SAVANT said...

Savant, I am a bit confused. When you report that female genital mutilation cases are fast tracked in the Irish health system do you mean that enrichers wanting this done to their daughters are fast tracked?

Or is it that young girls presenting with botched back yarf proceedures are fast tracked.


ANon, I presume you're taking the piss (whoops!) but in case you lack a sense of irony your latter suggestion is the reason.

Anonymous said...


Number of Muslim children in England and Wales doubles in a decade with one in 12 school pupils now brought up in Islamic faith.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2950372/Number-Muslim-children-England-Wales-doubles-decade-one-12-school-pupils-brought-Islamic-faith.html

Labour council bans PORK from primary schools claiming it is too expensive to monitor diets of Islamic and Jewish pupils.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2950628/Labour-council-bans-PORK-primary-school-menus.html





Anonymous said...

.
Regarding the African migrants drowned recently attempting to enrich Europe.

The BBC:

"The drowning of more than 300 migrants in the Mediterranean Sea this week could have been prevented with better EU lifesaving provision......"

We whites have a lot to be ashamed of.

Rick

Anonymous said...

Oh heaven forbid we'd ever be judgemental or - even worse - DISKWIMINAYTE against the Turd World infiltraitors. Why Dr Catriona wouldn't sleep for a month if even one ofcthe darkies' snivel wytez beez offended.

Here, in short, is the reason why dumb biches didn't get suffrage. And also the reason the kikes push feminism from ugly women: they are phokin gullible as feck.

The only hope is to return to male suffeage. But there's more hope of the 66 crushers resurecting and doing a wee orange march doon the Shankill Road on the 14th than that happening.

TheSickManOfEurope_com said...

"We have to be respectful and non-judgemental."....

It looks like the Emerald Isle is ripe and ready for your very own
native version of Rotherham!
Is this something you are looking forward to?
Of course it means that instead of the usual British tattoed fattie victims we will be talking about
some red headed feisty little Irish lass!
I'm a firm believer that a country is not trully Cultural Marxist unless they had their own version of Rotherham.
We had ours....now it is YOUR turn.

Anonymous said...


Four men charged over €1m jewellery robbery.

The four, who are all Lithuanian citizens, appeared before Galway District Court today. All four men were remanded in custody to appear before Harristown District Court on Friday.

The men, Saulius Repecka (36), Irmantas Paulauskas (37), Erikas Matusevicius (35) and Vaidas Pinelis (28) were all charged with one count of robbery.

The court was told the matter related to the theft of €1.099m worth of jewellery from a store in the city centre.

A Russian and Lithuanian interpreter were on hand at the bail hearing to assist the four men. None of the men had addresses in the State.

Gardai objected to bail applications by three of the men citing the seriousness of the charge and that they believed the men, who had no fixed abode in the country, to be a flight risk.

They added that the men were believed to have been in the country for a number of days, travelling here from Lithuania in the past few days.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/four-men-charged-over-1m-jewellery-robbery-30987149.html

Anonymous said...


Muslim Ghettos

Why is The West flooded with immigrants?

The screen grab above is of a tweet by Barbara Spectre, a Jew married to a Rabbi and working in Sweden for not only the destruction of Europe via multiculturalism (and other methods perhaps) but also the re-establishment of Jewishness in Europe. She heads Paideia, European Institute of Jewish Studies, which is funded in part by the Swedish government. The above screen grab is evidence of at least the crime of (c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;. This covers the 'mental' element of genocide. Barbara Spectre also breaches the 'physical' element as she works towards making Europe multicultural (b) Conspiracy to commit genocide; . This article has been tweeted to almost every minister of the Swedish government, the Swedish police and many other prominent people in Sweden. If no action is taken against Barbara Spectre and all the people who have contributed to the genocide of the Swedish people (just one of the white Christian nations targeted) then we can be sure that our governments are also complicit in acts of genocide and also in denial of real acts of genocide, both of which are crimes in international and national law.

http://muslimghettos.blogspot.ie/



Anonymous said...


Alan Shatter: Ireland's Barbara Spectre Lerner

I'm always amazed at the manner in which Jews have managed to wriggle their way into crucial positions within the West which they then use as hammers to bash the natives with. Ireland is no different. Between 2011 and 2014 Alan Shatter, one of just two thousand Jews in Ireland, managed to become both Minister for ''Justice and Equality'' and Defence Minister. One allowed him to multicult Ireland good and hard, the other allowed him to sign arms deals with his true Nation, Israel, Ireland buying of course, despite Ireland's Neutrality.

Before Shatter Ireland granted Citizenship to around two hundred Non Europeans a year, within a few months in office Shatter had streamlined the process and the total was cranked up exponentially, on just one day in 2012 four thousand, that's 4000! Third Worlders were granted Citizenship, the number annually was around 55,000, up from 200.

http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.ie/2015/01/alan-shatter-irelands-barbara-spectre.html

helvena said...

brilliant! Those damn racist nazis, you just never know who they could be...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiLVAz-Jczg

Corkonian said...

Great story. A friend of mine was at the Property Ombudsman on Monday. Large fat jungle bunny telling everyone that having spawned 8 turdlers he now needed a bigger house.

'So you expect the Irish taxpayer to pay for that?' my friend asked.'No, no no' protested the enricher. "De Ombudsman, he going to pay'

True story, and highly illustrative of the kind of vibrants we have among us.

puzzled said...

Savant

I'm at a loss to know why you allow hasbaras (like 'Denise at 6.40) and those on the previous thread to post slurs on a regular and valued poster like Nilus?

helvena said...

@ Anonymous said...
Religion of peace.genital mutilation? you dont have to look any further then the Convent in Galway where the pigeon looking cunt nuns were mudering babies and other "undesiralbes" because of the sin of illigetimacy, a guy told me that they ran out of room with there DIY solution with the problem and the bones of the little ones were up to the brim of the cess pool,so at this time Ireland has no cause to point fingers at anyone before this situation is addressed and some one gets locxked up for murder and concealing a crime....

Two wrongs don't make a right Anon and at least the Nuns were taking care of what they/society saw as a problem and not expecting others to.

white voter said...

Is this what Ireland, and particularly Irish girls, will be subjected to as Muslims increase in number:

"The Jay report into the abuse (of white girls by Muslims in Rotherham, England) stated (paragraphs 5.6–5.8): “It is difficult to describe the appalling nature of the abuse that the victims of sexual exploitation in Rotherham have endured over the years. Victims were raped by multiple perpetrators, trafficked to other towns and cities in the North of England, abducted, beaten and intimidated We read cases where a child was doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, children who were threatened with guns, children who witnessed brutally violent rapes and were threatened that they would be the next victim if they told anyone. Girls as young as 11 were raped by large numbers of male perpetrators, one after the other.”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/02/11/rotherham-the-crack-in-the-dam-that-could-drown-the-legacy-parties/

There's a lot of anger building up in England over this as the LibLabCon, the MSM, and the Common Purpose run public sector attempt further cover-ups and whitewashes.

Anonymous said...

Paul Weston on the Islamification of Britain and their traitorous enablers:

A Typical Week in Dhimmi Britain
by Paul Weston

It is amazing — in a rather horrifying way — to track the antics of the Religion of Peace in what was once Great Britain. News over the last few days serve only to reinforce my belief that British politicians and media journalists have already submitted before Allah, or have large off-shore bank accounts bulging with treacherous blood money as a reward for betraying their country......

http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/02/a-typical-week-in-dhimmi-britain/

SAVANT said...

@Puzzled. I don't think Denise is a hasbara. She's been on this site for years and I never noticed anything overly unusual. She does seem to have a thing about nilus all right though....

Anonymous said...

THE MUSLIM POPULATION in Ireland has grown from less than 4,000 in 1991 to nearly 50,000 at the end of 2011.
There are now 10 mosques or cultural centres on the island, eight of those Sunni, one Shia and one Ahmadiyya and there are Islamic societies in most colleges in Ireland.

This was 2011
How many Muslims now live in your Ireland
Or should I say how many Muslims are now infesting the home of my ancestors

Up the now useless villa

Anonymous said...

I feel so stupid. I heard religion of peace, when it was really religion of PEAS.

glorious happy progress said...

ot: Cork paramedics use Google Translate while delivering Congolese baby by roadside

AnalogMan said...

Anonymous said...

Religion of peace.genital mutilation? you dont have to look any further then the Convent in Galway ...

Oh, for heaven's sake, not this old horror story again. "A guy" told you? And you swallowed it?

This story was discussed on this site, in this thread. This is the comment I posted there:

I read that news report. It was mostly innuendo. They imply that 800 babies were murdered and thrown into a septic tank, but if you read it carefully, the facts they present don't support that conclusion. This is just my off-the-top-of-my-head recollection, and I can't be bothered to look it up, but this is what I took from that story:

In the early- to mid- 20th century, the catholic Church operated a home for unwed mothers. During that period, they suffered natural attrition, with a total of 800 people dying over the years, not all of them babies. These people had to be buried somewhere, and the church apparently converted a disused septic tank, which would presumably be be a brick-built underground structure, into a crypt. I see nothing sinister in that.

People die. We bury the dead. The medical skills and facilities of the time were not up to modern standards. They were nuns, not Doctors Without Borders. We remember with horror the toll of the first world war - about 16 million dead over four years, if I remember correctly - but forget that comfortably more than that number died in the Spanish flu epidemic over the following year.

It's not a Catholic conspiracy. It's just life.


Read the whole thread. And for more background, click on the link in the sidebar to Savant's article on "The Unspeakable MSM". They are not our friends. They lie, a lot. And some "guys" believe them, and spread the lies. Don't be fooled.

Anonymous said...



Irish govt fears global media coverage of ‘political policing,’ anti-austerity activists say.

Ireland’s London embassy refused to accept a letter condemning the state's assault on anti-austerity activists while an RT cameraman filmed on Wednesday. The Irish state is fearful of political policing gaining global media attention, campaigners say.


Following three days of “heavy handed” dawn raids on the homes of Irish anti-austerity activists, a solidarity protest was held outside the Irish embassy in London on Wednesday.

The demonstration was organized after 11 Irish anti-water charges campaigners were arrested, detained and questioned by police. The campaigners in question maintain they were arrested on spurious grounds.

Among those hauled into police custody were socialist TD (MP) Paul Murphy, and leftist Dublin councilors Mick Murphy and Kieran Mahon.

All three men are public representatives of Ireland’s Anti-Austerity Alliance, which has campaigned tirelessly against the Irish government’s debt repayment strategy to international and EU creditors. Following several hours of questioning, they were released without charge.

http://rt.com/news/231783-political-policing-quash-dissent/#.VNz3ZeWlRJU.facebook

Flanders said...

Let's not forget that jewry controls immigration and anti-immigration structures and tries to control ALL of the talking points in regard to immigration into ALL of our countries - including British and Irish movements. Similar controls are executed behind the scenes in "our" government and media. The forces of jewry play each end of the immigration debacle against the other for the jews' own benefit and power - to the lasting detriment of our White people.
http://balder.org/judea/Hate-Speech-Laws-Immigration-Jewish-Influence-France.php

Jewry has access to many hidden and unacknowledged allies, controlling and implementing secretly, most structural aspects regarding immigration.

Shriners Oath
“Candidates for induction into the Shriners are greeted by a High Priest, who says:

“By the existence of Allah and the creed of Mohammed; by the legendary sanctity of our Tabernacle at Mecca, we greet you.”

The inductees then swear on the Bible and the Koran, in the name of Mohammed, and invoke Masonry’s usual gruesome penalties upon themselves:

“I do hereby, upon this Bible, and on the mysterious legend of the Koran, and its dedication to the Mohammedan faith, promise and swear and vow … that I will never reveal any secret part or portion whatsoever of the ceremonies … and now upon this sacred book, by the sincerity of a Moslem’s oath I here register this irrevocable vow … in willful violation whereof may I incur the fearful penalty of having my eyeballs pierced to the center with a three-edged blade, my feet flayed and I be forced to walk the hot sands upon the sterile shores of the Red Sea until the flaming sun shall strike me with livid plague, and may Allah, the god of Arab, Moslem and Mohammedan, the god of our fathers, support me to the entire fulfillment of the same. Amen. Amen. Amen.”
With this oath, Christians swear on the Koran, and declare Allah to be “the god of our fathers.”
Excerpt from The Origins and Influence of Masonry
by Lee Penn, SCP Journal Vol. 25:2-25:3 2001, Berkeley, CA 94704
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Shriners are Freemasons who have attained the Royal Arch Degree, which is the 7th degree in one major branch of freemasonary and the 14th degree in another, and who choose to become Shriners. Either of the major branches of freemasonary are convolutedly controlled by several levels of secrecy leading to the Rothschild, et al, cabal of satanists and Frankists.
----

The jews who control Freemasonary intend to control all people and every country in the world.
Freemasons believe that they are the ones who will rule everything, but let us hear what is written in the Protocols.

Protocol n. 11 states:
‘We will create and put in effect the laws and the governments [Has this not happened?] … in opportune moments … by means of national rebellions. … What we want is that the multitudes, disoriented by the revolt, still in a condition of terror and uncertainty, should understand once and for all that we are so strong, so untouchable, so powerful that in no way will we take into account their opinions and wishes.

Instead we are ready and able to crush with irresistible power their manifestations at any moment and in every place. … Then, in fear and trembling, they will close their eyes to everything and await the consequences. … “For what purpose have we created this policy and insinuated it into the minds of the Masons, without giving them any possibility of examining its underlying meaning? ...

This is what has served as the basis for our secret organization of Masonry, whose existence is not known or even suspected by these cattle, attracted by us into the army of Masonic lodges.”
---
Listen to this from the same Protocol:
‘Death is the inevitable conclusion of every life … We will execute the Masons in a way that no one can suspect, not even the victims themselves: They will all die at the moment it is deemed necessary, apparently because of common illnesses.’'
http://traditioninaction.org/History/G_010_Kobe_Jewsl.html

Uncle Nasty said...

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helvena said...

@ Anonymous said...
Religion of peace.genital mutilation? you dont have to look any further then the Convent in Galway where the pigeon looking cunt nuns were mudering babies and other "undesiralbes" because of the sin of illigetimacy, a guy told me that they ran out of room with there DIY solution with the problem and the bones of the little ones were up to the brim of the cess pool,so at this time Ireland has no cause to point fingers at anyone before this situation is addressed and some one gets locxked up for murder and concealing a crime....


Okay, firstly you're a fucking illiterate. Then secondly that nuns killing babies story was blown out of the water mere days after its release.

http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Item/3183/exaggerations_and_myths_about_ireland_child_burials.aspx

Thirdly, you are a coward just like the tens of thousand of gutless whites in name only who slavishly follow the party line, grovelling at the heels of their jew masters by attacking what has become one of many safe, soft and approved targets ... then look upwards, tongues lolling out, begging for herd approval.

Rather like all the fake fags who "bravely" come out of the closet to universal jewmedia and left wing approval

Fourthly, just fuck off. Your very existence is an offense against nature; once a sound argument for early abortion -- it now serves no greater purpose than living proof that the Piltdown skull was not a hoax.

Fifthly a "guy told you", hey?

Fucking retard.

UN
.

SAVANT said...

Analog, you're right about that story where the nuns "murdered" hundreds of illegitimate children and threw them in a septic tank. I did a post on that but can't find it. In essence the truth was that the babies had died naturally and they had been buried in unmarked graves close to a septic tank.

Clearly this is utterly at variance with the version suggested i the MSM.

Anonymous said...

" In essence the truth was that the babies had died naturally and they had been buried in unmarked graves close to a septic tank".

This fairy story related to the poster by some guy in the pub has the fingerprints of the Talmudic Jew/Cultural Marxist White-haters all over it. The spread their lies by finding the most dumbed-down bastards on two feet with no or little access to the Internet, who will believe their brainwashing & know it will be passed on to the rest of the dumbed-down sheeple.

salvagesam

Anonymous said...

Irish singer Hozier is all over the MSM with anti-Catholic song Yake Me To Church. FFS the guy is only 25yo,so how would he know about the Catholic dominated Ireland?

Seneca said...

Flanders, Savant drew attention a few posts back to the inability of today's 'experts', be it involving politics, economics or whatever, to draw up accurate forecasts.

Yet we see with the Protocols the ability to foresee through not years but centuries. This is uncanny. Unless of course you are the agent of such change. Then it all makes sense.

Anonymous said...

Savant @22:00 "I did a post on that but can't find it."

Are you not able to implant a "search" widget to your sidebar from your administration end?

I use Wordpress... so am unfamiliar with Blogspot technicalities.

Anonymous said...

¨^All those aiding and abetting the illegal demographic invasion of Caucasian territory will be forcibly deported to Pakistan or Somalia. Out of respect for your family rights, your immediate family will go with you. There will be no right of return."
orc hating Canadian says...
Then a lot of innocent men with a sister(s) will be deported.
How many women have you met who don't believe what the evil msn or our idiotic academia tell them? I'm still stuck at zero.
(not including my wife who I think would slip back pretty quickly into a believing slave without me around.)

SAVANT said...

@ Anon 00.12. Yes indeed there is such a widget but I've looked up all the key words and have drawn a blank.

Strange.

Flanders said...

Quit being so nit-picky anon 00:23. Shaunantijihad gave the correct formula for freeing our countries of all types of deadly menace, of which "immigration" - led and controlled by forces of jewry - are only a singular part. The only clarification needed is that it applies absolutely to political traitors within our own countries. If your wife or mine fit that category, they are replaceable - and best replaced.

william said...

According to some recently released documents by the FBI Hitler my not have did in a bunker. I know this has come up in the comments section a few posts back with most people not buying it. But interesting the FBI would think the same none the less.
https://murderbymedia2.wordpress.com/2015/01/26/fbi-hitler-didnt-die-fled-to-argentina-stunning-admission/

william said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
¨^All those aiding and abetting the illegal demographic invasion of Caucasian territory will be forcibly deported to Pakistan or Somalia. Out of respect for your family rights, your immediate family will go with you. There will be no right of return."
orc hating Canadian says...
Then a lot of innocent men with a sister(s) will be deported.
How many women have you met who don't believe what the evil msn or our idiotic academia tell them? I'm still stuck at zero.
(not including my wife who I think would slip back pretty quickly into a believing slave without me around.)

13 February 2015 at 00:23


I am aware of at least one white woman who doesn't have her head up her ass on all matters race related. I recently met my friend's girl friend, well getting drunk together we had a wonderful conversation on the feral, savage behavior of the North American Pavement Ape.

Shaunantijihad said...

A poster at Morgoth's review linked to this very interesting poster. I think Savant will find it useful:

http://i0.wp.com/therightstuff.biz/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Who-controls-your-mind-2013.jpg

Rob said...

Savant, I don't know if you've hit the booze to deaden the pain of diversity, but you wrote "it's" instead of "its" twice there.

The only morsel of consolation to be got from the ISIS business is hearing that some "Irish" or "British" jihadist has been killed out in Syria. Of course, any self-respecting nation would kill any of them who tried to come back.

SAVANT said...

Thanks for the heads up Rob. Don't know how I made that mistake as I'm always on the watch for it. Can't lower the tone of the blog, you know.

Duly amended.

don't use 'em said...

The UK-based consumer group, 'Which', has published a report on the most filthy, disgusting and unhygienic areas in Britain to eat in a restaurant.

Guess what, the worst areas are mainly the 'enriched' ones.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11409785/Food-hygiene-is-a-postcode-lottery.html

The top rated comment mentions the 'boycott' of Asian restaurants and other businesses, (which is growing rapidly).

"I wonder what the correlation is between the worst food hygiene and the percentage of foreign born adults in any borough. In LB Brent where I live 55% of adults are foreign born. My solution is to 'passively boycott' all business where there aren't any Europeans working or in control, Ie I don't go in the them if I can help it.
I think of it as my contribution to the overdue 'creative destruction'. that we need.
I am very worried about this like many others are I imagine. I increasingly feel like a stranger in my own city ......



Anonymous said...

http://www.thejc.com/judaism/judaism-features/121527/why-sharansky-wrong-write-european-jewry

Anonymous said...

http://www.thejc.com/judaism/judaism-features/121527/why-sharansky-wrong-write-european-jewry

Anonymous said...

Be wary of this duplicitous piece of shit here ....

http://www.jewishnews.co.uk/john-mann-mp-non-jews-forefront-fighting-anti-semitism/

Anonymous said...


Timeline Of The Jewish Genocide Of The British People.

Here’s how it happened:

1066: In return for financial support William The Conqueror brought the jews to England with him. The jews soon acquired a reputation as extortionate moneylenders which made them extremely unpopular with both the Church and the general public.

1290: King Edward I finally expelled the jews from England. The jews swore their revenge.

1649: The jews financed Oliver Cromwell’s otherthrowing and beheading of Stuart King Charles I after he refused them control of England’s finances.

1655: The jews were readmitted to England by their puppet Oliver Cromwell.

1660: With the British People becoming sick of austerity under the jewish puppet Oliver Cromwell, Charles Stuart landed in Dover in May 1660 and was restored as King Charles II of England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland to wide popular acclaim. The jews planned their revenge.

https://cigpapers.wordpress.com/2015/02/02/timeline-of-the-jewish-genocide-of-the-british-people/



Anonymous said...


The Telegraph on Muslim Demographics: More Liberalism Is The Answer!

Last week saw the publication of yet more evidence that the Muslim situation is spiraling out of control, a new set of stats revealed the Muslim demographic onslaught had gathered pace and there are at least 4.7 Million Muslims in Britain, 8.1% of school children are Muslim and that will double within another few years, then double again, and again. To most of us here, out in the 'Badlands'' of political attitudes and analysis this will come as no surprise, we've been saying it for years but what is always of interest are the lies and double think peddled by the Liberal pundits who brought this apocalypse on us. The task of the intelligentsia is now, to a large degree, to act as an emergency Fire Brigade, they are on standby 24/7, always at the ready to douse out the flames of the latest Islamic related horror story.

http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.ie/2015/02/the-telegraph-on-muslim-demographics.html

katana said...

Savant, you didn't, as far as I know, make a post on kids buried by nuns in a septic tank, but did make a comment here in this post:

More evidence for climate change


[http://irishsavant.blogspot.jp/2014/06/more-evidence-for-climate-change.html]


SAVANT said...
@,,,DISGUSTED AMERICAN VIEWER.

To the chagrin of many on this blog I'm happy to see the Catholic Church, especially the Irish manifestation of it, take a good kicking in retribution for the way they mis-ruled this country for centuries.

Having said that it's a bit unfair suggesting - as everyone is - that 800 kids were dumped in a septic tank and further implying that they were either killed or left to die. They were buried near, not in, a septic tank although not in a proper graveyard. They died in my opinion due to the fact that the mothers were poor and neglected and the babies were not given adequate medical care and nutrition.

The Church was largely at fault but by no means totally. What happened reflected Irish society's general attitude towards unmarried mothers, closer to what we see with Muslims today.

We've gone from one extreme to the other in a generation. Now it's cool and a lifestyle choice for unmarried women to have kids...and live on welfare.

10 June 2014 at 23:54


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Dan said...

It ain't Denise.

Anonymous said...

Shaun posted this link

http://i0.wp.com/therightstuff.biz/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Who-controls-your-mind-2013.jpg

I've posted it again to save time.

Those who would make us diverse don't themselves seem to like diversity. Whoever compiled this (assuming it's accurate) has done a stunning piece.

FOD said...

That "who controls your mind" jpg is simply breathtaking. I knew THEY exercised excessive control of the media but...wow!!!

Anonymous said...



70th Anniversary of the Dresden Holocaust.


http://www.dailystormer.com/70th-anniversary-of-the-dresden-holocaust/

Anonymous said...

Nothing about Dresden in the MSM - yet come holohoax mania day on Jan 27 the wailing is deafening.

Having said that they're about to discuss it on LBC in a minute

http://www.lbc.co.uk/listen-live-3578

Anonymous said...

21;58 please tell us how you really feel.

Flanders said...

Now, Why would jew-controlled ISIS-ISIL pick some poor American girl such as Kayla Mueller to execute over so many others they could have chosen from, perhaps even some poor jewess (I've heard that there ARE some in the Middle East).

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/77161/kayla-mueller-dead-isis-hostage-was-jew-hating-anti-israel-bitch/

Anonymous said...

Nuns murdering babies? Have you fucking taken leave of your senses Savant? This ridiculous kike fantasy was debunked ten seconds after drudge plastered it all over the world.

Frankly, the most insane anti Catholic fantasy crimes, come nowhere near the nightmare we are currently being subjected to.

WR

Anonymous said...

Sorry this is O/T
We are always being sold a bad deal. I may have got this link from this site but it has hours of info broken down into 15 min segments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHAUsDNDSCI&list=PLE3ACFBB3E7EEB762&index=23

No mention of the J word but loads of mentions of extreme Marxist feminists, Cultural Marxists etc.
You have to admire how the figures are twisted to meet their needs.

Lemmyhead (T.M.)Don't know how you do the trade mark thingy.

Anonymous said...

To the above Anon claiming that Denise is a hasbara.

I doubt it very much. If it's the same Denise who has 'The White Tea Room' blog, then her concern for Nilus is completely altruistic.

mr.a

Flanders said...


South African students are becoming more intelligent than students in other countries.

The student government has called on Durban University to kick out jewish students, although a few students want the expulsion to be limited to those who support Israel.

“Durban University of Technology vice chancellor Ahmed Bawa called the suggestion to kick out Jewish students “totally unacceptable.”

Durban university students seek to expel Jews
http://www.timesofisrael.com/durban-university-students-seek-to-expel-jews/

“Jewish students at the Durban University of Technology (DUT) who supported the State of Israel should be kicked out, the Students Representative Council (SRC) has demanded.

And this applies to students who are sponsored by the Israeli government. The demands, sent to the DUT management, have shocked and angered Jewish organisations.”

http://www.iol.co.za/dailynews/news/dut-jewish-call-outrage




Piet said...

I love the see the porch monkeys turning on the jews who helped overthrow the legitimate white government.

Suck it up bitches.

Anonymous said...

Good Lord another outrage.

Uncle Nasty said...

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Anonymous said...

Timeline Of The Jewish Genocide Of The British People.

Here’s how it happened:

1066: In return for financial support William The Conqueror brought the jews to England with him. The jews soon acquired a reputation as extortionate moneylenders which made them extremely unpopular with both the Church and the general public.

1290: King Edward I finally expelled the jews from England. The jews swore their revenge.


https://cigpapers.wordpress.com/2015/02/02/timeline-of-the-jewish-genocide-of-the-british-people/

Out-bloody-standing. I have been looking for this timeline ... or something very similar for years.

I have suspected for quite a time now, that the centre, the true centre -- or viper's nest, if you will -- is not Joo york as so many folks think, or are led to think, but the Square Mile of London.

Read the history of the heebs from Cromwell's time onwards.

Many years ago, I read a treatise that declared that the American War of Independence did not -- as is commonly thought -- end in a victory for the Americans, but rather a form of armistice that merely gave the Hoffjuden a breathing space while they moved onto plan "B".

British influence, or jew influence, rather did not stop in America, but merely went undergound.

The true losers were Spain, Holland and France.

Spain, because it had actually expelled the Marranos -- and made it stick ... and this was a crime that could never never, never be forgiven ... which is why Spain is where it is today.

Quite a comedown for a nation that was once the most powerful entity on the planet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_of_Paris_(1783)#mediaviewer/File:Spanish_Empire-Americas.png

Holland, France, Italy ... pretty much the rest of the world were all expendable.

Just as they are today.

Nuke the City of London on a trading day and ninety eight percent of the world's problems will evaporate (if you'll pardon the metaphor). The Beast will be decapitated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_London_Corporation

The rest ... New York, L.A., Amsterdam, Paris can be cleaned up at our leisure.

A swift and carefully orchestrated plan of assassination of the Media moguls as in "That "who controls your mind" jpg" and the whole thing will be over in a year.

Three years ... tops.

Regarding the media, I cannot emphasise enough that a revolution cannot succeed if no-one knows about it ... as witness Greece and Hungary right now, today. When I tell people today that Greece is imploding, all I get is glassy stares ... but everyone can make an informed comment about "Fifty Shades of Grey."

Pardon the caps, but THE MEDIA MUST BE TAKEN OUT FIRST.

UN
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Uncle Nasty said...

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From a previous thread ... and a good read into the bargain.

See what the press was all about in the early twentieth.

Anonymous said...

Long before the Internet came along, there lived a few dissident newspaper men who challenged corrupt yids and their cronies, Circa 1920.

Interesting read:

https://cj303addict.wordpress.com/2015/02/02/subversive-forces-and-the-triumph-of-free-thought/

12 February 2015 at 01:11


This is a good piece.

UN
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Flanders said...

You had a good recommendation at 01:07 Uncle Nasty. Thanks.

https://cj303addict.wordpress.com/2015/02/02/subversive-forces-and-the-triumph-of-free-thought/

There is a similar booklet by a jew who has been the target on the national levels, and I do not know the url although I have the 23 page PDF in my file. It should be available online. I'll give an excerpt, then the names at the bottom.

"Why was I the Kehillah target? Because I de-
fended a Christian who was persecuted with other
Christians, in the fake sedition trial in Washington,
D.C., during 1944 and because I exposed and stop-
ped the graft of some of the so-called pro-Jewish or-
ganizations and publications behind that persecution.
What has the Kehillah done to me? It sent word
to all Jewish organizations that I am an outcast Jew;
that I am a renegade Jew; that I am against Jews;
that I betrayed Jewish secrets which I did not know
existed; that I should be shunned by all Jews and
by Christians who serve Jews. As a result, I have
been ostracized by Jews with whom I have associated
many years, many of'whom I aided, and by a few
so-called Christians who were good friends and clients
and who have been scared away from me.
I have been surrounded by spies and followed,
my telephone wires were tapped and I have been
threatened by mail, telephone and telegraph. At-
tempts were made to knock me off by violence and
poison. This is all in accordance with the plan out-
lined in the Protocols which say we will exterminate
those who oppose us; they will die as if from natural
causes. The plan also includes my ostracism from
my own family, the same as was done to Jesus two
thousand years ago. One of the many threats I
received, was sent to me from the Waldorf Hotel in
New York City, where one of the so-called Jewish
leaders lives. That letter denounced me in un-
measured terms after my opening statement' to the
jury in the fake sedition trial in Washington, D.C.,
in May, 1944, and said "without making any wild
threats, you have been provided for." [continues]

A Jew Exposes The Jewish World Conspiracy, By HENRY H. KLEIN, Copyright 1946.

Klein was later murdered.

Flanders said...

"How The Jews Have Repaid America and Its People For Giving Them Safe Refuge..."


http://fathersmanifesto.net/jewishcrime.htm

Anonymous said...

of course the "secret tunnels" between the covents and the rectories where a well known fact amongst us of the Scotch Irish gentry here in the No, of Ireland.

Anonymous said...

Sorry Savant, I ought to learn to read properly!

WR

Anonymous said...

Fantastic UN
Shades of Straws laws.
They never give up do they?

Anonymous said...

of course the "secret tunnels" between the covents and the rectories where a well known fact amongst us of the Scotch Irish gentry here in the No, of Ireland.

Well duh! Everyone knows they were designed by the followers of the great archietect of the universe.

Anonymous said...

Irish paramedics use Google Translate to help a she-boon shit out another turd...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/13/google_translate_baby_delivery_swahili/

Anonymous said...

Anon @06.24.
'of course the "secret tunnels" between the covents and the rectories where a well known fact amongst us of the Scotch Irish gentry here in the No, of Ireland.'

I'm sure Savant will back up my facts here. There was a secret tunnel that ran from Belfast to Glasgow. It was started by the British in 1909 but abandoned after approx. 36 miles. The I.R.A. surreptitiously took over the tunnel in 1968 intent on diverting it to Liverpool. A supergrass from the the Kray gang informed MI6 when the Krays were intent on taking over the tunnel and diverting it yet again but this time to Watford. When Reggie Kray found out he was seen running round Shoreditch with a butter knife vowing to 'Do that effin grass.' The grass was given witness protection and lived the rest of his life on Tuvalu.
The S.B.S. were sent into the Irish Sea by submarine from where they launched attacks on the tunnel from above. One of the S.B.S. soldiers lost his life in the whirlpool created by the sudden implosion of the tunnel.
All of these facts can be checked on Wikipedia.

Lemmyhead (T.M.)

Anonymous said...

If it wasn't for the Catholic Church in America and Europe, we'd already be a bunch of brownish uneducated bastards, kind of like Brazil.

At least in the US and Ireland, there was a very stern Catholic ethos. A kind of lifeboat morality. If sister was a drunken whore, she was shunned and thrown out of the family lest she contaminate the rest. It's really a nineteenth century kind of thing when you only had one chance. Very different from the society we grew up into. That Irish American morality pushed millions of immigrants from Europe into the middle class.

I grew up unaware of this until I brought home a young woman. This was completely nonromantic and I was helping a runaway. My mother acted like I'd found a lost kitten. Dad, who left Ireland in 1930, was quietly shocked and would have nothing to do with her.
Lust not proper for a young woman to be traveling alone.

AnalogMan said...

Flanders said...

South African students are becoming more intelligent than students in other countries.

Not really. It's just demonstration of that "infinite number of monkeys on an infinite number of typewriters" principle. Sooner or later, they're bound to get something inadvertently right.

I especially loved the quote:

“We had a meeting and analyzed international politics,” the student body’s secretary, Mqondisi Duma, was quoted in the report as saying.

Yeah, right. Analyzed international politics. Bunch of retarded apes. They love to mimic humans, but have no conception of meaning. It's all a cargo cult.

Like this Parliamentary brawl, sorry, debate in South Africa this week. Video here. Straight out of the Planet of the Apes, except those fictitious apes were intelligent.

Incidentally, any Saffers here remember when PW Botha used a police van, with driver, to transport some biltong that someone had given him, from Pretoria to his home at the Wilderness? Remember the fuss? He even got his main Fixer, Pik Botha to go on TV and spin it for him ("The SA voters will grant him that"). But this illiterate kaffir can blow US$23 million on improvements to his private home, and that's OK. And you American readers who are laughing now, you paid for that.

SAVANT said...

Thanks for the heads up Rob. Don't know how I made that mistake as I'm always on the watch for it. Can't lower the tone of the blog, you know.

As long as you're accepting proof-reading suggestions, Savant, there's one typo you're prone to that always throws me off my pace, and that's using "lead" as past tense. You might want to watch for that.

(You know, of course, how the musical style of Heavy Metal got its name? Some DJ used it in reference to the group Led Zeppelin.)

Lemmyhead (T.M.)Don't know how you do the trade mark thingy.

Full instructions here. Or just copy/paste from that page, or other linked pages. This page has many more symbols, sorted into categories, if for example you want mathematical symbols.

Kerberos said...



The B'nai B'rith corporation had a piece on the shooting in Copenhagen. The words, muslim, islamic, islam were never mentioned once. The Amish community were probably responsible for the attack!

Snow Patrol said...


When affirmative action goes wrong

Massachusetts: Retarded Negress Forced to Resign as Head of MBTA Because of Total Failure and Incompetence

http://www.dailystormer.com/massachusetts-retarded-negress-forced-to-resign-as-head-of-mbta-because-of-total-failure-and-incompetence/

Anonymous said...

I always thought the term Heavy Metal came from the Steppenwolf song Born To Be Wild. You know...."dum dum dum dum dum dum. Heavy metal THUNDER".

mr.a

Uncle Nasty said...

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At last ... a techie thing on which I can help out.

To get the Trademark (TM) or Registered (R) symbols and all that, go to the start menu (Windoze users only, I am afraid) click on "All Programs" and open the "Accesories" folder ... and then the "System Tools" folder.

You will find a device called the "Character Map" which is a drop-down menu containing every ASCII character in the world -- in all your installed fonts, including Trademark, Copyright, Registered, etcetera -- ™ © ®

Click on the character of your choice (which will magnify for closer inspection) press the "Select" button, then "Copy" and paste the offending character into your document and voila ...

UN
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Uncle Nasty said...

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Snow Patrol said...

When affirmative action goes wrong

Massachusetts: Retarded Negress Forced to Resign as Head of MBTA Because of Total Failure and Incompetence ...


Even funnier was this:-

http://www.dailystormer.com/salon-rats-say-jew-stewart-should-be-replaced-with-negress/

Salon Rats Say Jew Stewart Should be Replaced with Negress

Daily Stormer
February 14, 2015

So the unfunny Jew is leaving the Daily Show, and – you’ll never guess it – SJWs are calling for his replacement to be a female Negro. In an article entitled ““What the hell is wrong with these white dudes?”: What “Nightly News” & “The Daily Show” should do next ,” which is almost as boring as it is long and pointless, some whoever feminist writer calls for some gross looking monkey-person to take the Jew’s reins.

The problem that Comedy Central will have when responding to these calls is that obviously no one wants to watch some Black woman every night. Steward, as a relatively handsome Jew, was not noticeably alien, nor was he female. There has never in history been a non-daytime talk show with a female that was successful, and the only successful non-White host ever was Oprah. SJWs have all of these fantastic plans, but in reality none of them are financially viable. Unless they are based on forcing the state to do something.


I like the Stormer. I recommend it as highly as the Kakistocracy and Katana's blog.

UN
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Anonymous said...

Did anyone else notice that the new ad for KFC - formerly Kentucky Fried Chicken - "Celebrating family for over 40 years" features no mud people from the planet Mongo. Emporer Ming will be so so disappointed.

Uncle Nasty said...

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Apparently Mr a. has it right ...

Steppenwolf: Breakthrough success and decline (1967–1972)[edit]

The name change from The Sparrows[3] (The Sparrow) to Steppenwolf was suggested to John Kay by Gabriel Mekler, being inspired by Hermann Hesse's novel of the same name.[1] Steppenwolf's first two singles were "A Girl I Knew" and "Sookie Sookie". The band finally rocketed to worldwide fame after their third single "Born to Be Wild" was released in 1968, as well as their version of Hoyt Axton's "The Pusher". Both of these tunes were used prominently in the 1969 counterculture cult film Easy Rider (both titles originally had been released on the band's debut album).[1] In the movie, "The Pusher" accompanies a drug deal, and Peter Fonda stuffing dollar bills into his Stars & Stripes-clad fuel tank, after which "Born to Be Wild" is heard in the opening credits, with Fonda and Dennis Hopper riding their Harley choppers through the America of the late 1960s. The song, which has been closely associated with motorcycles ever since, introduced to rock lyrics the signature term "heavy metal"[1] (though not about a kind of music, but about a motorcycle


Stolen from Shittipedia -- handy if you want facts .... useless if you want truth.

UN
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Malcom Xcrement said...

"Retarded Negress Forced to Resign as Head of MBTA Because of Total Failure and Incompetence ..."

Ho li fook! If this idea of forcing retarded niggers to resign for incompetence catches on we never get to face them again in any job.

Uncle Nasty said...

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http://carolineglick.com/mainstreaming-jew-hatred-in-america/

US President Barack Obama is mainstreaming anti-Semitism in America.

This week, apropos of seemingly nothing, in an interview with Mathew Yglesias from the Vox.com website, Obama was asked about terrorism. In his answer the president said the terrorism threat is overrated. And that was far from the most disturbing statement he made.

Moving from the general to the specific, Obama referred to the jihadists who committed last month’s massacres in Paris as “a bunch of violent vicious zealots,” who “randomly shot a bunch of folks in a deli in Paris.”

In other words, Ahmedy Coulibaly, the terrorist at Hyper Cacher, the kosher supermarket he targeted, was just some zealot. The Jews he murdered while they were shopping for Shabbat were just “a bunch of folks in a deli,” presumably shot down while ordering their turkey and cheese sandwiches.

No matter that Coulibaly called a French TV station from the kosher supermarket and said he was an al-Qaida terrorist and that he chose the kosher supermarket because he wanted to kill Jews.


And so on an so on ... ad nauseam ... yids like this bitch give credence to the old saying "If it wasn't there, you'd have to invent it ..."

-- and, boy, are they inventive. They truly think that everyone is as fascinated by them as they are.

Roll on, the revolution and remember ... MSM delenda est

UN
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Anonymous said...

O/T - some rare video footage of 9-11 ... before it "disappears" from youtube. Only 1000 views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YehuX9B868k#t=5089

James said...

The Church was largely at fault but by no means totally. What happened reflected Irish society's general attitude towards unmarried mothers, closer to what we see with Muslims today.

Back in those times babies were routinely disposed of in orphanages (foundling hospitals) and given to the tender mercies of killing nurses. Killing nurses only had a survival rate of 5%.

The reverse is true now, where even the most hopelessly retarded vegetable is kept alive as long as possible.