Thursday, 5 September 2013

Freemasons

About ten years ago I was invited to join the Freemasons. I was assured that whereas everyone had to enter at the basic rank I was destined for stardom, so to speak.  I never had any intention of joining but did use the opportunity to explore - or try to explore - what this secret organisation is really about. I asked what was it that fast-tracked people to the top degree, like the 32nd.  'Good works' I was assured, a response which confirmed to me that I was being fed bullshit.

Freemasonry is used almost interchangeably with the Illuminati, New World Order, Bilderbergers, Bohemian Grove in secret organisation demonology.  But personally I have no idea as to what their objectives are.  And I'd love to know.  Sure, at a lower level it's all about looking after fellow brothers in their careers.... for instance the police and judiciary in Britain have had notorious instances of  judicial process abuse.

But what I don't understand is how the various Lodges interact at the highest level.  Masons that I spoke to insist that each  Lodge is pretty much independent. But that then begs the question as to how goals and operations can be aligned which in turn could obviously lead to Lodges pulling in totally opposite directions. Jesse Jackson for example is supposed to be a 33rd degree Mason, but there surely are, or were,  many Lodges in the South made up of KKK people. What happens were their respective members effect that famous handshake? I find it unbelievable that there would not be top level co-ordination, but anything I've read suggests there's not (misinformation?) and the dizzying spectrum of Lodges with seemingly nothing in common and in fact much to fundamentally divide them would seem to support that.

So if that were true, why would the real power brokers, the Rockefellers, Bushes, Draghis of this world need to join?  Surely they have all the contacts they could possibly need and why be bogged down by Masonic rituals and constraints? But it seems they are all Masons.  Which leaves one possible explanation: Some Luciferian connection.  Albert Pike, Sovereign Grand Commander of the Southern USA Jurisdiction in the 19th century wrote about Lucifer as 'the seeker of light' (hence the name).  Lucifer's sin apparently was that he believed man to be perfectable, i.e. becoming God. As can be imagined, this went down like a lead balloon with Church authorities who subsequently built him up to be the incarnation of evil.

Could it be possible that in fact, at the highest levels, some enhanced occult powers are made available?  Pike inferred that 'the Light' could be acquired by the anointed. Don't laugh off the possibility.  I say this as an agnostic of no religious adherence. But because science has not discovered or explained something does not mean it does not exist. My own dogs for example have what can only be described as paranormal senses, even down to the prosaic level of knowing when I'm thinking of going for a walk.

This subject is of more than academic interest to all of us here given the role of Masonry, embedded as it is in every facet of Western life, and given the machinations of shadowy NWO-style groupings associated with it.

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James said...

Evola blamed Judeo-masonic forces (such as the Carbonari) for the subversion that affected Italy, and the rest of Europe.

The pattern is the French Revolution - that's where it all started proper. Democracy is the ostensible aim, and the excuse for all it's infamies.

Masonry is really just the recruiting pool.

The subversion continues apace.

We are meant to be confused by all the false Masonic rubbish on the Internet and in the movies.

Rotary clubs are similar. They all sound like nastiestuncle when you talk to them. Hyper-righteous, utterly "correct", impossible to question, and totally impervious to any debate whatsoever. In other words, totally and irretrievably brainwashed.

Anonymous said...

The last pope, before he was pope, in 1982, I think, stated that the centuries' old ban on Catholics who joined the Craft of receiving the Sacraments was still in effect.

Anonymous said...

In the August 3, 1855 edition of The Israelite (Cincinnati) the paper's editor Rabbi Isaac Mayer Wise (32nd Degree Freemason) wrote:

"We characterize the above principles as anti Masonic, because we know that not only Catholics but Israelites in this country and in Europe are prominent and bright Masons. We know still more, viz. that Masonry is a Jewish institution whose history, degrees, charges, passwords and explenations (sic) are Jewish from the beginning to the end, with the exception of one by-degree and a few words in the obligation, which true to their origin in the middle ages, are Roman Catholic (...) it is impossible to be well posted in Masonry without having a Jewish teacher,"

A fortnight later, in the August 17, 1855 edition, he wrote (he's clearly annoyed here, and is being sarcastic about a vicar who claimed, incorrectly, that it was Xians who allowed Jews into Masonry):


"It is a great favour, the Rev. R. believes that the Jews are admitted in the lodges etc. of which they must be sensible and grateful. Why does he not consider it a favor, that we have the privilege of living in our houses. Masonry was founded by Jews as a cosmopolitical institution, hence it is a favor for the Jew to be admitted in the lodges, viz. in our own house. How sapient!

We Jews have given birth to the masonic fraternity as a cosmopolitical institution; but we consider it no favor to admit you in the lodge, provided, however, you leave your secterianism outside of the consecrated walls. We have given you Christianity to convert the heathens gradually to the pure deism and ethics of Moses and the Prophets ; still, we consider it no special favor bestowed on you from our side, that you have the privilege of being a preacher in one of the churches."


Copies of original articles on link
http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/masonry-was-founded-by-jews-as.html

Anonymous said...

"there is not, nor can there be, any objection to Jewish Brethren rising to the highest offices, either in Craft or Royal Arch Masonry ; it has been ever universally admitted by the order, in fact, to use a well known axiom amongst us, "Judaism is Masonry, and Masonry is Judaism."

- Letter to the Editor, by 'Z', Past Master, The Jewish Chronicle (London), December 20, 1867, p.7.

http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/judaism-is-masonry-and-masonry-is.html

Anonymous said...

"The leading figure among the Jews in connection with early Masonry in the United States was Moses Michael Hays (1739 - 1805) ... Hays was prominently identified with the introduction into the United States of what is called in Masonry the "Ancient Accepted Scottish Rite," ... In recognition of the powers conferred upon him he was elected Grand Master of that Grand Lodge (Massachusetts) at the annual elections from 1788 to 1792, ... Before becoming Grand Master, Hays had been Junior Grand Warden of the Grand Lodge in 1785. Previous to that time he had been Master of King David's Lodge in Newport from 1780 to 1782. Prior to 1780 he had been Master of that lodge in New York where it had been originally organized under a warrant issued to him by George Harrison, Provincial Grand Master of New York, February 33, 1769. His connection with Masonry probably commenced about 1768 when he was appointed Deputy Inspector General of Masonry for North America by Henry Andrew Francken, who had been commissioned by Stephen Morin, of Paris, acting under the authority of Frederick II of Prussia, the Grand Master of Masons of Europe and holding jurisdiction over America. The appointment was made with the view of establishing the Scottish Rite in America, and power was given to Hays to appoint others with like powers. Under this authority he appointed several Deputy Inspectors General of Masonry for various States, of whom mention will be made in treating of those States.' Why such extraordinary powers were granted to Hays, a Jew, is a question remaining to be answered. ... Hays' son and all his grandsons and great-grandsons were Masons. Hays left one son and five daughters."

Oppenheim, Samuel. The Jews and Masonry in the United States Before 1810. New York: The American Jewish Historical Society. 1910. pp.5-8.

Xavi said...

An interesting question Savant. It is underlined by the issue of the top Army commanders prior to the Spanish Civil War, most of whom were Masons. It seems they were pretty equally divided between the rebels and the Government.

Go figure.

Anonymous said...

6,000,000 Masons were gassed at Auschwitz by the National Socialists.

“a Jewish, liberal, and Masonic infectious residue that remains in the unconscious of many, above all in the academic and intellectual world."

- SS-Obergruppenf√ľhrer Reinhard Tristan Eugen Heydrich

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007187

Kevin Rafferty said...

Any 'testimony' from Masons must be treated with caution. They are not going to reveal their innermost secrets (they'll suffer serious repercussions were they to do so) so anything they come out with is going to be self-serving and probably lies.

Anonymous said...

"Recent (Mexican) President Vicente Fox stated, "After 1917, Mexico was led by anti-Catholic Freemasons who tried to evoke the anticlerical spirit of popular indigenous President Benito Juarez of the 1880s. But the military dictators of the 1920s were a lot more savage than Juarez." Fox goes on to recount how priests were killed for trying to perform the sacraments, altars were desecrated by soldiers and freedom of religion outlawed by generals."

I've checked wiki's source: his book, and it's a correct quote
Wiki: Persecution of Christians in Mexico

Anonymous said...

Around 1900, a young Trotsky wrote a paper on the Craft:

"Bronstein may have wished to expose the mystical and ceremonial facets of freemasons, who he depicted as a circle of intellectuals trying to subvert the political status quo"

- Robert Service's biography:
http://tinyurl.com/mrunaog

And that's from a far-far-far-left Jew!

Shaunantijihad said...

Couldn't begin to speculate, except that in some people want to belong to something that makes them feel special and superior to others.

It's why we need a Caucasian Coinstitution, that is enforced by a White Army.

Take as a single example, the idea "Freedom of Association". Try this on a "liberal" or cult member like a mason. They all agree with it until you point out it also means freedom to NOT associate.

I don't want to live around Muslims or Negroes (for good reason I assure you). But instead of being called a principled defender of Freedom of Association I am just unfairly labelled a racist. Muslims aren't even a race. But I despise the Paki fuckers. See? Equal opportunity detestation.

I'm so fucking hip!

The Truth Will Out said...

Masonry is something of a mystery to me (i know the juden, there are many myriad of obfuscations to the tricks), I know what I've been told by those who don't really know but there's probably some value; significantly more informative than listening to a jew, than watching the film The Forces occultes, where the maker had to die for his efforts in exposing what he knows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X4IwkJdrCE

James said...

Albert Pike was pretty clear in Morals and Dogma that Masonry is a religion and that their god is Lucifer.

They operate in opposition to Adonai (God). Adonai is the Jewish god Jehovah, (the Devil, according to Bjerknes), and therefore maybe Lucifer is the good guy here.

But how can we trust anything they say?

Pike was probably a Jew too. He was a big fat menace who loved eating, drinking, and screwing whores out in the forest.

Anonymous said...


James said.... Adonai is the Jewish god Jehovah

"the Zohar (the masterpiece of Kabbalah) reads the opening verse of the Torah not as “In the beginning God created”… but rather: “With beginning, [the Unnamable One] created God.”"
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/jinsider/daniel_matt_revealing_secrets_zohar

Jews, the ones who follow the mystical aspects, Merkaba, Kabbalah, and particular the odious 16th century Lurianicism, believe they actually are god incarnated.

Anonymous said...

"Masonry and the synagogue were connected in 1793 at the laying of the corner-stone of the new synagogue of the Beth Elohim Congregation on September 14 of that year. The committee of arrangements consisted of Daniel Hart, Gershom Cohen, and Moses C. Levy. The ceremony, according to the glowing report of this committee to the vestry, "was conducted by the rules and regulations of the ancient and honorable fraternity of Freemasons." ... The eight marble stones were laid by the following members of the congregation: Israel Joseph, Philip Hart, Lyon Moses, Isaac Moses, Emanuel Abrahams, Mark Tongues, Hart Moses, and Abraham Moses, all of whom, judging from the account, and in the absence of Masonic records of the time, may have been Masons."

Samuel Oppenheim, The Jews and Masonry in the United States Before 1810.
New York: The American Jewish Historical Society. 1910. p.79.
http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924030283216#page/n87/mode/2up

James said...

In any case, the god of the jews is not our god.

Our gods are being confused, betrayed, and destroyed as we are being confused, betrayed, and destroyed. As above, so below.

Anonymous said...

Moses Jacob Ezekiel (1844 — 1917), a Jew, Mason, sculptor, Confederate Army vet, fraternal brother of B'nai B'rith (i.e. the ADL parent co.), wrote July 13th, 1889:

"In saying "Israel's object and mission is peace" I am far from thinking that we, as a people, have not a great moral and, eventually, a physical struggle before us before the dawn of that immense day when in reality Israel will rule the world, and God's name be acknowledged by the other nations as one. ... We have had a glorious past and have in store such a future as no other people have a right to expect."

Sources here

Anonymous said...

I'm not a religious type, technically an atheist, although I've no time the Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris types who abhor Xianity/Islam but seemingly love Judaism.

Anonymous said...

The Ruskies are denying anyone said this now. But it's funny. Coz it's true.

"A senior spokesman for Putin was reported to have told Russian journalists in a briefing that Britain was "a small island no one listens to", apart from some oligarchs who had bought Chelsea football club. The Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, insisted that any evidence about the use of chemical weapons in Syria should be presented by the UN security council."
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/russia-west-gas-attack-syria

James said...

Something completely different - do blacks have bigger you-know-whats?

http://www.heretical.com/miscella/baker3.html

Anonymous said...

Expect Thatchell to call on bum banditry to boycott Rolls Royce.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/business/industries/utilities/article3861882.ece

James said...

We talked about ants a few days ago.

Here's some more info.

An Amazing Parallel:
http://www.heretical.com/miscella/jewbiol.html

Uncle Nasty said...

I mentioned in a previous post about Jack the Ripper, that one of the best explanations -- or revelations, if you prefer -- was the book "Jack the Ripper - The Final Solution" by Steven Knight ...

http://tinyurl.com/mbasjo6

Knight's research into the Ripper killings kept leading him to Freemasonry and its adherents, so much so, in fact, that the felt compelled to use all this research in a subsequent book ... "The Brotherhood" which, quite possibly, was his undoing.

"The Brotherhood" exposed the reach and influence of Freemasonry in the Brit police forces of the time and the legal profession, up to and including senior judges and justices.

Knight actually quoted several occasions in supreme court trials where defendants -- in moments of extreme need, made esoteric Freemasonic hand signals to judges, who immediately would direct the proceedings towards a more, shall we say, desirable outcome.

Knight mentioned two occasions where more "moral" or dedicated justices would suddenly show extreme discomfort at the direction in which things were going ... one of them, actually recusing himself mid-trial -- an almost unheard-of circumstance.

http://tinyurl.com/mwmuu2e

The timing of the release of "The Brotherhood" could not have been more fortuitous, coming just after the Banco Ambrosiano affair which blew up in 1982 with the death of Roberto Calvi.

At 7:30 am on Friday, 18 June 1982, a postman found Calvi's body hanging from scaffolding beneath Blackfriars Bridge on the edge of the financial district of London. Calvi's clothing was stuffed with bricks, and he was carrying around $15,000 worth of cash in three different currencies.

You may recall it.

One thing I find very interesting about books like Knight's, is the negative reviews that one reads in Amazon often parroting the line of "... the now thoroughly-discredited book..." -- without actually mentioning who discredited them and when the deed occurred or, one might add, even citing references.

Pre-internet hasbarism.

UN
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James said...

Amazon is full of books that get 5 stars and 1 star. Many of the 1 star reviewers will say "I wanted to give it zero stars."

Some are amazingly symmetrical, with (for example) 88 5 star reviews, 85 1 star reviews and nothing in between at all.

The polarity of opinion in today's world is quite striking. Of, course, the best books are the ones nastiestuncle likes. All the rest are trash and should be burnt.

But we don't burn books, only Nazis do that right? Yes that's right, but it's OK to burn Nazi books. Why? Because they are Nazi books. Duh!

Uncle Nasty said...

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Steven Knight as a matter of interest, pointed out that Freemasonry has, ostensibly about 33 levels.

The reality, according to Knight, in his book, is that there are a hundred or more -- that are not revealed to the rank and file who wear the aprons and have their monthly or annual piss-ups or whatever, down at the old Masonic hall.

Just thought I'd mention that.

UN
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Anonymous said...

AIPAC to mount major lobbying blitz for Obama's Syria strike plan
http://www.jpost.com/International/Report-AIPAC-to-mount-major-lobbying-blitz-for-Obamas-Syria-strike-plan-325381

Nastiest will be doing a similar thing on Savant's blog.... and whatever nationalist formum he's covering for Shlomo (username: Saxon Warrior) whilst he makes Aliyah.

Anonymous said...

Here in the states we have many niggers as masons. Trayvon Martin's father, Tracy Martin is a mason.

James said...

Universal freemasonry has 360 degrees, like a circle.

The lower 180 are available to creatures like us that aren't gods.

The lower 33 are for the goyim.

Something like that. But what do I know? I'm just a dumb goy too.

James said...

Nastiest will be doing a similar thing on Savant's blog.... and whatever nationalist formum he's covering for Shlomo (username: Saxon Warrior) whilst he makes Aliyah.

It's all about the gas pipe.--nastiestuncle

It's all about the gas pipe.--nastiestuncle

It's all about the gas pipe.--nastiestuncle

It's all about the gas pipe.--nastiestuncle

It's all about the gas pipe.--nastiestuncle

It's all about the gas pipe.--nastiestuncle

It's all about the gas pipe.--nastiestuncle

It's all about the gas pipe.--nastiestuncle

James said...

They want a war with Iran.

Iran wouldn't play, so they took all their toys to Syria. They are attacking Syria to provoke Iran.


http://jewishracism.blogspot.co.nz/2013/08/we-have-had-seven-years-to-prevent-this.html

James said...

http://jewishracism.blogspot.co.nz/2013/08/the-jews-are-using-homosexuals-rights.html

Today, the Jews are busy ginning up hostilities between Western Europeans and Russians at a critical time when we should be building up an alliance against our common Asian and International Jewish enemies. The Jews are despicably using homosexuality as a wedge issue to turn us against one another.

The Jews have always tried to mischaracterize the Russians as if intolerant and bigoted. The Jews have also always tried to use homosexuality to corrupt the Western world. This latest artificial conflict between Gays and Russia is just another instance of the Jewish war on the White Race.


It isn't.--nastiestuncle

Gay.

James said...

The most important thing in the world at the moment is that it is legal to bash up gays in Russia.--nastiestuncle

What's in your suppositories mate? Where do you get these crazy ideas from?

James said...

Syria. It's getting biblical now.

Genesis 15:18

On that day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, "To your descendants I have given this land, From the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates


http://jewishracism.blogspot.co.nz/2013/09/as-jewish-vampires-swarm-congress.html

They want Syria gone.

Nastiest Uncle said...

"Could it be possible that in fact, at the highest levels, some enhanced occult powers are made available?"

Nope. There is no reason at all to think that.

"Don't laugh off the possibility."

Haha.

"I say this as an agnostic of no religious adherence."

Tut tut. There's no honour in agnosticism. Pick a side.

"But because science has not discovered or explained something does not mean it does not exist."

That's an intellectual cop out.

"My own dogs for example have what can only be described as paranormal senses"

Your own dogs have what can only be described by you as paranormal senses. To another person, it might be clear that your dogs are able to associate certain eye movements, body movements, sounds and routines of yours with being fed or taken for a walk.

"This subject is of more than academic interest to all of us here given the role of Masonry, embedded as it is in every facet of Western life, and given the machinations of shadowy NWO-style groupings associated with it."

Oh lordy.

A couple of my friends had dads who were freemasons. They used to use the meetings as a way to get a few hours peace from their wives. They would drink beer, play pool and darts and watch sport which they couldn't do at home. I went along once. There were no handshakes. The room was just a room with some chairs, tables, sofas, a darts board, pool table, TV and a small bar which was self-service with an honesty box. From here they ruled the world and hatched Zionist plots. And organised pool and darts tournaments with other lodges, pub teams, works teams, etc.

My niggers. Being open-minded involves the rejection of absurdities, not the embracing of them. People who believe in ghosts and demons and magic are not open-minded. Quite the opposite.

Nastiest Uncle said...

I am being obsessed over quite a bit tonight. It is a Masonic plot. This is an undisputed fact.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@The Truth Will Out 00:03

HAHAHAHAHAHA dude, you're a gem. I love seeing your name above a comment. It's a guarantee that amusement is not very far away.

The film maker didn't die for exposing what he knows. He died for being a collaborator. His film was commissioned by the Nazi propaganda department to brainwash people. It has worked on you I see. But then, you're not all there are you.

Why is it that the people least likely to be truthful always use the word "truth" in their names? It's not very sophisticated.

Heathen Bastard said...

" But personally I have no idea as to what their objectives are. And I'd love to know. "


Sol-Om-On : Three words for the sun or Sun God

The Knights Templar, Rosicrucians, Kabbalists and Freemasons all are "enlightened" or "illuminated" with secret knowledge from the black magic obtained from the Temple of Solomon - the Ark of the Covenant. The Testament of Solomon (check this on Wikipedia) is a book of black magic where Solomon obtains a ring sealed with an inverted pentagram that makes him invisible and gives him the power to harness demons to do his bidding but ultimately corrupts him in the process. (JRR Tolkien? Der Ring des Nibelung?)

The strategy of enslaving the Goyim with their own demons comes from the Testament of Solomon, the real Ark of the Covenant with Lucifer. Consider the first Multinational Corporations - the East and West India Companies (corrupted Western European Aristocracy, Masons and Jews). The Chinese had never heard of Opium until it was foisted on them by these Luciferians. The gambling and prostitution of Havana and Las Vegas follows the same principle. Enslave the Goyim with their own vices, and they have no one to blame but themselves.

The ultimate goal of enslaving the Goyim with their own vices is the New World Order. This was Trotsky's dream of the democratic state that becomes increasingly indebted to the Central Banks that back them. In this, the ultimate Opium ring, the Goyim are easily controlled with propaganda and elect to spend money on unlimited Bread and Circuses. Until recently the countries that resisted this neo-serfdom included Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan. The only remaining countries that have resisted this NWO include Syria, Iran and N. Korea. When they fall the hook-nosed snake Jormungandr will have bit his own tail, the NWO will be in place, and Ragnarok will have begun.

Dan said...

There's an art film by Matthew Barney it's called cremaster 5 or something. It's about the Crystler Building and the Guggenheim Museum as parallel structures with levels of masonry and sybolism as Barney goes up the buildings. At the top Barney kills the architect played by Sculptor Richard Serra.
Lots of Masonic symbols.


My guess is that masonry is bit of hocus pokus. In a world without rituals masonry allows powerful people to create a super secret treehouse. There is a similar thing in St Louis called the Veiled Prophet. at the top of the organization there you will see a Danforth or a Busch. What do you need after the 2 nd Ferrari? The endowed chair at the Uni? Well, you gotta have something even more exclusive.

Franz said...

Many of us colonials have heard variations of this sort of thing all our lives:

...Jonathan Williams recorded in his Legions Of Satan, 1781, what British General Lord Charles Cornwallis told General George Washington who had just defeated him. "A holy war will now begin in America, and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects of the Crown. Your churches will be used to teach the Jew’s religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire. All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses, and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry."


There's lots more like it. True? Does anybody know if Cornwallis was ALSO a freemason? That would be a kicker, and I've heard that also.

The Judaising of Christians by Jews

James said...

A couple of my friends had dads who were freemasons. They used to use the meetings as a way to get a few hours peace from their wives. They would drink beer, play pool and darts and watch sport which they couldn't do at home. I went along once. There were no handshakes. The room was just a room with some chairs, tables, sofas, a darts board, pool table, TV and a small bar which was self-service with an honesty box. From here they ruled the world and hatched Zionist plots. And organised pool and darts tournaments with other lodges, pub teams, works teams, etc.--nastiestuncle

But that doesn't prove anything, except that they were low-level masons.

I went to a golf club and saw guys scoring 30 over par. Therefore, my niggers, super golfers like Tiger Woods just don't exist. Anyone who believe in these super advanced golfers is an idiot.--nastiestuncle

I must admit you have a point here.

I went to a labour party meeting and saw little old ladies planning fundraising cake stalls. Therefore, even though labour was in government at the time, to say they run the country is laughable at best.--nastiestuncle

That's the best explanation of the fact that nobody has power I have ever heard. Thanks for enlightening us!

James said...

I really do wonder if NU believes what he says.

He's the weirdest person on here, which makes him interesting, but still we need to put his brain in a tank and hook him up to a machine.

James said...

It would also be funny to see him asking "Why me" if he lived back in the French Revolution and was about to get his head cut off.

They used to laugh when people asked that question. Sometimes they would laugh so hard they couldn't execute the prisoner for 10 minutes.

They'd probably let NU go because he'd be so funny. He's obviously harmless because he doesn't know anything, so why not?

He makes me laugh a lot, but crikey he needs to stop making such a fool of himself. It's getting embarrassing.

James said...

There were no handshakes. The room was just a room with some chairs, tables, sofas, a darts board, pool table, TV and a small bar which was self-service with an honesty box.

They must have been 34th degree super-masons by the sound of it. So secret they didn't even know themselves.

Give us a break NU, say something serious. Please? Just this once?

Uncle Nasty said...

This may seem off topic, but perhaps not.

After all America's NOOA (the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) placed a request for 46,000 rounds of mostly hollow point, copper jacketed, .40 calibre rounds of ammunition.The order was attributed to the National Weather Service and received quite a bit of attention.

Odd but understandable, I guess. Okay, the reason was that NOOA enforce the looking after of marine life ... a worthy cause, I'm sure.

But this is weird. Could it be that the US govt. now fears invasion by aliens from another planet?

Why is NASA purchasing 'assault rifles'?

Timothy Birdnow

NASA, America's space agency and Muslim outreach organization, has apparently tired of its mission of promoting Islamic self-esteem and global warming theory and has decided to instead join the ranks of Barack Obama's internal security force. Well begun is half done, the old saying goes, and NASA has begun this reassessment of its purpose with the purchase of five spiffy new AR-15 "assault weapons."

Here are the details:
70--5 ARMALITE AR-15 RIFLES
Solicitation Number: NNM13486122Q

Agency: National Aeronautics and Space Administration
Office: George C. Marshall Space Flight Center
Location: Procurement Office
Solicitation Number:
NNM13486122Q

"...This announcement constitutes the only solicitation; offers are being requested and a written solicitation shall not be issued. This notice is being issued as a Request for Quotations (RFQ) for (5) Ea., Armalite AR-15 Rifles. Per FAR Part 8.405-6(2) MSFC is requesting the rifles be the brand, Armalite..."

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/09/why_is_nasa_purchasing_assault_rifles_1.html#ixzz2e5mxOyRv
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The US govt welcomes illegal aliens with arms wide open ... I can't believe they're they going to blast that cute little ambulatory dog turd from E.T.?

UN
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Nastiest Uncle said...

@James 07:04

Quite right. The experience of my mates' dads doesn't mean that there isn't some super secret organisation running the world. But it does show that certainly not all freemasons are what the only-enlightened-people-in-the-world would desperately like them to be.

Anonymous said...

SAVANT,

Sorry I haven't posted too much lately - been busy working on my RNB hip-hop career under my alias, "Wigger D". However, your latest posts have inspired me to a new classic rap:

Dey say dat world be control by Freemasons
Like I grab a spliff, but is really Jasons
Keep a nigger down, dat wot da Jew do
Mind control, iggy-oggy-oo-ooh

Pumpin rhymes wit mah posse in da street
Sellin crack 2 makes enz meet
Yo!

JP

parisclaims said...

From my own very brief experience of membership I concluded that it was a load of bollox. Mainly silly old men, looking like the cast of Dad's Army, thinking they were important. Bit like cubs or scouts, for old men, minus the fun bits. Admittedly, I only got a worm's eye view. Never bothered going back after a couple of their mind-numbingly boring meetings.

SAVANT said...

Parisclaims, no offence but yes it was a worm's eye view. Given that the elite power brokers seem to be heavily involved I feel that there's a whole different scene at the highest degrees.

The big issue for me is why they'd enter if it did not advance their power, with the clear inference that there must be some unifying objective at the highest levels internationally.

SAVANT said...

UN, I had not read Knight's book but I shall correct that forthwith.

What you quote here makes absolute sense to me, specifically about there being hundreds of additional degrees not revealed to the rank and file. That would explain a lot. Still would love to know what, if anything, unifies them at this level.

Nastiest Uncle said...

Why does there have to be a belief that there are secret organisations controlling things?

Occidental said...

Franz, that's an absolutely mind-blowing from Cornwallis. Is it authentic? Seems scarcely believable, seems a bit of a retrofit to subsequent events.

But if true it could solve Savant's dilemma very clearly.

Occidental said...

'Heathen bastard'. What you say seems to make sense and would explain a lot. But again, have we any compelling evidence to support this position?

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Franz 06:22

"...Jonathan Williams recorded in his Legions Of Satan, 1781, what British General Lord Charles Cornwallis told General George Washington who had just defeated him. "A holy war will now begin in America, and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects of the Crown. Your churches will be used to teach the Jew’s religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire. All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses, and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry.""

You read this somewhere and you fell for it hook line and sinker.

What should have happened, if you were the skeptical, questioning type rather than the gullible, sheeple type, is that you would have thought "this sounds like bullshit, so I'll check it out". And if you had checked it out, your first discovery would have been that this quote only exists on the websites of the usual suspects. This is not a good indication of its authenticity. If you had delved further you would have found that this book does not exist and that there is no evidence for its existence and never has been.

I am the lion of truth. You are the wounded antelope of gullibility, and I have sunk my teeth into your neck.

@Occidental 10:27

"Franz, that's an absolutely mind-blowing from Cornwallis. Is it authentic? Seems scarcely believable, seems a bit of a retrofit to subsequent events."

At least you're more of a skeptic than Franz. At least you ask questions.

Anonymous said...

Franz, that General Cornwallis quote is as fake as Nastiest's claim to be 100% English (the rat was posting at 4am British Summer Time this morning).

Markow (I'm not a fan of his) claims that the late, great, Joe McCarthy quoted it once.
http://henrymakow.com/nwo_introduced_under_masonic_g.html

Markow's source?

There's isn't one of course.

jacomo@NUblogteam said...

"I am the lion of truth. You are the wounded antelope of gullibility, and I have sunk my teeth into your neck."

You're my lion, Natiest.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Anonymous 11:25

"Nastiest's claim to be 100% English (the English Lion was posting at 4am British Summer Time this morning)."

It must be genius day today on the blog.

English people cannot get up in the middle of the night and post on blogs, apparently.
English people cannot go abroad and post from there, apparently.

I'm here to make you look stoopid so that you don't have to look stoopid in real life.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@jacomo@NUblogteam 11:38

Inform Schlomo that I've slaughtered another antelope, pl0x.

Anonymous said...

Here's how you look in real life Nastiest (the rat of Judea).

I was up myself at 4am to see your post, and I live a few miles from Wembley. I've had the flu for the last few days and my sleep pattern is screwed.

You on the other hand, can't decided whether you're abroad or have been on an all nighter.

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Keiser said...

Savant,
Have you by chance worked in or around to the University of Limerick. The Alma Mater of the truly amazing, of course.

Have you by chance noticed the large black and white checkered stone block at the main entrance across from the Castletroy Park Hotel and the two large asymmetrical flag poles where the now removed but once majestic white main iron gate stood.

These, as you know, are masonic symbols. The checkered pattern and the "pillars" named "Boaz" and "Jachin".

I know a freemason in the faculty and when I asked him he acknowledged that they were masonic symbols but told me that it was just a coincidence. Move along nothing to see here little person, LoL.


A big f**k you from all of us Masons at UL to all of you little people

and forget about your once proud white gate, the occult rules here

A good site concerning occult symbolism and freemasonry in the mainstream media and entertainment industry for those of you whom are interested.

Vigilant Citizen

Anonymous said...

Although considered pseudohistory it would seem that Baigent and Leighs book The Temple and the Lodge tie the points you make together to a certain extent. Might be worth you giving it a quick read. Dan Brown hasn't got round to turning this into a best seller yet.

Lemmyhead

Anonymous said...

Franz asked
There's lots more like it. True? Does anybody know if Cornwallis was ALSO a freemason? That would be a kicker, and I've heard that also.

Again I would refer you to The Temple and the Lodge. Baigent/Leigh

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Anonymous 11:53

You're a very clever man.

:)

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Keiser 12:07

"VigilantCitizen.com"

Hahahahahaha.

Nastiest Uncle said...

This post by Savant is great stuff. It's bringing all the funniest gullible people out of the woodwork.

Keiser said...

What about the pictures of the University of Limerick NU, just nice artwork I suppose. "Nothing to see here"

HAHAHAHAHA

Keiser said...

but thanks for your opinion NU, my frolicking little nigger :-)

Anonymous said...

The masons started with a bunch of so called "enlightenment", atheist, knowitall, protestant assholes. Of course, outside the wisdom of the Catholic Church it took the jews about five minutes to totally take it over.

Before the rise of the Media and the final defeat of the Catholic Church, the masons were the best tool the jews had to subvert the west. Louis XVI was surrounded by jew loving masons who pretty much engineered the poor mans demise.

That both the Church and The Hero of the 20th century opposed the masons is enough for me. Though I doubt they're up to much post-1945, there is no need for conspiracy now, the anti white agenda is completely out in the open and whats more, the godless white masses heartily approve.

WR

Anonymous said...

People who believe in ghosts and demons and magic are not open-minded.

If seeing is believing, disbelief is willful blindness.

caudeceus said...

Sav a most interesting site with a lot of info, I tend to believe that the masons of today have lost the plot, been infiltrated this richard cassaro bloke seems to have a lot of info www.richardcassaro.com

Especially read the articles on the symbology in the bronx zoo, there is an interesting article on the swarstika and all the ancient sites that it appears in europe.
Another interesting article is the pine cone symbology.

The symbology leads us to the caudeceus, and what the spiralling snakes up a shaft with a pine cone atop means, this starts looking a lot like the hindu kundalini awakening, also speaks about a snake spiralling up the spinal column.

But in kundalini yoga one needs decades of yoga to achieve the aim of awakening.

I stumbled upon this on the net about third eye awakening, it all ties to the caudeceus and kundalini, and there is an institute on your side of the planet that assists in 3rd eye awakening

www.clairvision.org, if you google awakening the third eye, by a Samuel sagan M.D. You will no doubt find info on it.

But richard cassaro speaks about the male energy and female energy that the masons believed in, today masonry is something vastly different to what it should be.

I believe that the ability to awaken the third eye is something linked to arayan genetics, if you believe that everywhere the ancient arayans had dealings in, their genome and the knowledge of the 3rd eye became established. I can think of china, with its ying and yang, northern india, assyria, egypt, etc,knowledge of the 3rd eye links them all. Even in south america there are hints of some knowledge that linked ancient cultures

We don't see this knowledge in black africa, I believe that their are elites, that know the genes carry the potential to allow higher mind reasoning to gain third eye awakening, and these elites are trying to get rid of this functionality from the plebbian masses. Hence the genocide on whites, the blatant in your face race mixing of caucasian/euro genes.

So do euro/caucs have the latent ability to awaken the 3rd eye, and this isn't what the elites want for the masses?

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Anonymous 15:32

But no one has ever seen ghosts, demons or magic.

kulak said...

My father-in-law is a Mason, not active any more. He says they're dying out. They've tried to counteract that by vastly lowering standards. You used have to memorize and recite all kinds of shit, sorta like a bar mitzvah. Not any more.

Their work is done.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Keiser 13:49

What about them?

Anonymous said...

But no one has ever seen ghosts, demons or magic.

Sure they have.

Who are they supposed to believe, their eyes or Mommy Nasty?

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Anonymous 15:46

Obi Wan Kenobi said: Your eyes can deceive you. Don't trust them.

chakra said...

The origins of free masonry are not jewish, once again the forked tongues are taking credit, free masonry was never jewish, they have infiltrated it and corrupted it yes, but masonry was never jewish, they have taken it over and subverted its original purpose.

Kundalini awakening is extremely tough to achieve, only a few can accomplish it, the reason that yoga and training of the mind is advocated is because, when awakening the 3rd eye, if your mind is disciplined, things can go wrong, some people play with awakening the 3rd eye and come away damaged, even the hindus know, if the mind isn't ready for kundalini, things can go wrong.

The key is the 3rd eye, the bindi dot in india, the dot on the forehead of the buddah, the cyclopean 3rd eye. The pine cone atop the staff, the pine cone depicted in the vatican.

The ying and yang, sun and moon towers in cathedrals all over europe, the pillars of masonry, the white and black check floors, all alude opposing forces, that must be balanced to achieve third eye awakening.

The secret is in the 3rd eye, once that is awakened, you will realise, many things, and realise why the elites don't want the masses to know.

Nastiest is so out of his depth here, its quite amusing reading his attempts at attention whoring.

Anonymous said...

So do euro/caucs have the latent ability to awaken the 3rd eye, and this isn't what the elites want for the masses?

Orientalists and occultists open third eyes.

Odin sacrificed an eye.

This difference is crucial.

Odin sacrificed himself to himself to obtain the knowledge of the runes, but the way of Odin is not occult.

It is what bugsers call mantra thinking, of which the mantra is a product.

It is not the learning or exposing of hidden knowledge.

It is the learning and exposing of knowledge from which everybody hides.

It is the courage to know.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@chakra 16:21

My nigger. Your reading of, and getting amused by, my posts here is a millions times better a use of your time than learning about 3rd eyes.

Nastiest Uncle said...

In English, the phrase "3rd eye" is used to refer to the Jap's eye or the anus.

Keiser said...

NU said...
@Keiser 13:49

What about them?


Do you consider them to have a freemasonry association or are they just artwork because that is the kind of thing on the vigilantcitizen.com website.

He just looks at the symbolism of things like the one eye nonsense of the music industry and says wow there is a lot of this.

Or were you hahaha-ing for another more inscrutable reason.

By the way where were you recently. You have been a bit quiet, performing Aliyah?

SAVANT said...

Caudeceus and chakra, thanks for the input and link. I knew a guy once who swore by the 3rd eye concept. The only problem with anything you read on Freemasonry though is that it seems the only people who really know ain't talking. So it follows that those actually talking don't really know.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Keiser 16:41

"Do you consider them to have a freemasonry association"

Nope.

"or are they just artwork"

Bingo.

"because that is the kind of thing on the vigilantcitizen.com website."

That website cries wolf. So best not take it too seriously.

"He just looks at the symbolism of things like the one eye nonsense of the music industry and says wow there is a lot of this."

You'll see what you want to see if you look hard enough for it over a wide range.

You're not dealing with quality people who have good, scientific, enquiring minds. You're choosing as sources people who love to dominate and manipulate the minds of gullible follower types. I used to think that the MSM was a lying bunch of toe rags until I started viewing these conspiracy and usual suspect websites.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@SAVANT 16:41

"The only problem with anything you read on Freemasonry though is that it seems the only people who really know ain't talking. So it follows that those actually talking don't really know."

How very convenient.

Nastiest Uncle said...

Why does there have to be a belief that there are secret organisations controlling things?

force be with you said...

3rd eye is as much european as oriental, greeks depicted it romans did, the pharoe of egypt had the cobra where the orientals have the 3rd eye, even the mayans or aztecs had knowledge of the 3rd eye

Modern science says the 3rd eye could be the pineal gland, even the bible speaks about the 3rd eye

Not everyone is made tbe able to handle third eye awakening, it has nothing to do with demons or the occult, if your mind is ready, you should be able to handle 3rd eye awakening

Thers is a lot of misinformation about it, once again those who infiltrated the mason, want to destroy 3rd eye awakening too.

3rd eye awakening doesn't make one an all loving, tree hugging, in love with the world flaky type as those who want to destroy 3rd eye awakening would have you believe.

There are a lot of flaky, liberal, kumbaya types, who speak about 3rd eye, having third eye awakeing doesn't mean you will go and volunteer to feed the starving ethiopians, that's the image they want to put out there.

Those who destoyed masonry, want to put out the perception, that those with 3rd eye awakening are flaky limp wristed, weak types, that's the perception they want out there, but that's not what its about.

With 3rd eye awakening, seeing what the agenda is about becomes apparent

Many people want 3rd eye awakening for all soughts of reasons, to feel empowered because only a few can achieve it, to see the future, to want to see auras, to experiment.

When your mind is ready, nothing of that matters, and it won't be the reason for awakening, hence the orientals, putting decades of yoga and meditation, to filter that sorts of crap out, for those that really want awakening, they will do what it takes for the right reasons.

You won't become like emperor palpatine in starwars, or like yoda or skywalker, but once you have 3rd eye awakening you will see star wars in a new light.

Third eye awakening is in everybodies reach, your mind just has to be right, cause if it isn't you can end up like palpatine or darth vader, but you won't become a saint either, it neednt change your personality, you won't want to come and save the piekaniens of africa cause you have 3rd eye awakening.

3rd eye awakening is strewn, in ancient cultures, european and oriental, as they had the same origins, I'm afraid black africans were overlooked tho.

Keiser said...

I dunno NU I know a freemason who agreed that they were masonic symbols but he said it was just a coincidence (whatever that meant) the truth is there are hugh monuments to masonry outside that campus and no doubt a little coven inside but hey just a cohen-cidence, right?

As for vigilantcitizen.com
I am only looking at all the pictures and seeing that all seeing f**king eye on all of them, among other blantant symbolism.

Here's a test NU get a 1 dollar bill and look at it. What do you see looking back?

quiet the mind said...

Because there are, it may comfort you to think, that there are not, but there are.

Why do multinationals use ancient symbols in their corporate logos, cause it looks pretty? Why are those ancient symbols repeated inbetween those multinational corporates, cause its pretty and if its working for one, maybe some mojo will rub off on the other.

Nastiest, just sit quietly and listen, you don't know eveything, you don't know how many smiles your ignorance creates to those that do.

Its not a pleasant thought, but there are secret societies in control, always been that way.deal with it.



its all around said...

There is a reason why its called the all knowing eye.

It isn't evil, but the powers, want to prevent the masses from getting that all knowing eye, why?

With the all knowing eye active amongst individuals amongst the massed, the Elites won't have an easy manipulable mass base to play with, cause people will know when they are being manipulated.

Why is the all knowing eye, now perceived to be evil, who does it benefit, the ones pushing that agenda ofcourse.

You don't want the masses awakened, but they achieve that on their own. Very little guiding hand is required

Black masonry is not part of white masonry, to my knowledge its kept apart, and black masonry has never been official masonry, its just aped white masonry.

Original masonry has concept that black people just couldn't handle.

Have you ever noticed how european, culture imposes its will on the environement and the environment starts taking form to that will, in black culture, the environment imposes its will, and the culture takes the form of the environement. Think about it

I believe that's the reason why white masonry is kept seperate from black masonry, the cultures that impose there will, as opposed to the culture that has will imposed on it.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Keiser 17:05

"I dunno NU I know a freemason who agreed that they were masonic symbols"

Freemasons/ occult/ gods/ spirits/ ghosts/ goblins/ fairies/ do not have a monopoly on decorative designs. The chequered design has been independently invented hundreds of millions or billions of times because it is so simple, but of course when you see it displayed somewhere it must have some deeper super secret meaning.
If the designer did create it as having some meaning behind it, it doesn't matter. I could go around drawing pentagrams on the sides of houses and it wouldn't mean a thing.

"I am only looking at all the pictures and seeing that all seeing f**king eye on all of them"

Of course you'll see eyes in things. They represent vision and are easy to draw and create. Also, circles and oval shapes look a lot like them, and those are very easy things to draw. It's meaningless and it doesn't control people and there's no need to get your knickers in a twist about it.

"Here's a test NU get a 1 dollar bill and look at it. What do you see looking back?"

You're referring to the all-seeing eye of god watching over the original thirteen colonies. So what?

Nastiest Uncle said...

@quiet the mind 17:16

"Why do multinationals use ancient symbols in their corporate logos"

I had some dickhead over at BRITAIN'S PREMIER NATIONALIST BLOG try to convince me that all large companies use some yellow triangle symbol and that it actually had some meaning.

"Nastiest, just sit quietly and listen, you don't know eveything, you don't know how many smiles your ignorance creates to those that do."

I know a hell of a lot more than you lot because I don't waste my time with absurdities.

"but there are secret societies in control"

If they're secret then you don't know they exist.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@its all around 17:39

"There is a reason why its called the all knowing eye."

Eyes know nothing because they do not have a cognitive ability.

"but the powers, want to prevent the masses from getting that all knowing eye"

Just another absurd assertion.

"With the all knowing eye active amongst individuals amongst the massed, the Elites won't have an easy manipulable mass base to play with, cause people will know when they are being manipulated."

Every person on earth knows that they are being manipulated.

"Why is the all knowing eye, now perceived to be evil, who does it benefit, the ones pushing that agenda ofcourse."

The all-knowing eye does not exist.

Then it descended into cuckoo land.

Nastiest Uncle said...

I had a discussion with a friend of mine the other day. He was swearing blind that a particular herb can cure cancer even though it can't.
All the studies proving it were faked. All the people disbelieving the potency of this herb were brainwashed. Only open-minded people could see the truth, even though only six out of 75,000 people who had taken this herb had experienced reduction in the tumour size.

This way of thinking is a form of mental illness. It afflicts nearly all of humanity.

All of these things are real for no more reason than people think they are real so they must be real: Allah, fairies, Santa Claus, ghosts, magic, Reptilians.

Just imagine what the human species could have achieved if so many people were not effectively retarded. We'd be on our way to the stars by now.

an innocent abroad said...

It's all around, do you mean that blacks and whites are not in the same lodges? Surely not? That can't be true, is it?

But it seems like a swell idea!

Anonymous said...

****THERE'S A CONNECTION BETWEEN JUDAISM AND MASONRY!****

The 'light' referred to by Masons is also referred to in the Kabbalah. Also there are Jewish lodges. Furthermore there's a connection between the Masons and Solomon's Temple. In fact Roslyn Chapel's said to be a replica of the latter in miniature. Finally, The Protocols allegeges a connection between the two.

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Keiser said...

NU said...
"You're referring to the all-seeing eye of god watching over the original thirteen colonies. So what?"

Which "God" the Lazy Jewish Demiurge you mean, that's not my God, definitely not my God. He doesn't present in such a fashion.

No, it is an occult deity or the Old Testament, Violent Leviathan that the Jews worship. Just like the one at the Israeli Supreme Court.

Israeli Courts



I can't help but notice the trampled cross (somewhat obscured in picture) in the green circle.

Masonic device and Illuminati All seeing Eye monument - Again Israeli Supreme Court

Article about the above


"So what?"

Sounds like you are the one getting your knickers in a twist Herschel

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Keiser 19:35

"Which "God" the Lazy Jewish Demiurge you mean"

No, it isn't of that.

"that's not my God, definitely not my God. He doesn't present in such a fashion."

You don't have a god. No one does.

"No, it is an occult deity or the Old Testament, Violent Leviathan that the Jews worship. Just like the one at the Israeli Supreme Court."

No, the concept of god as being all seeing is common to most gods.

"Israeli Courts"

Oh, it's a pyramid with a circle near the top that you can look out of. So what?

"I can't help but notice the trampled cross (somewhat obscured in picture) in the green circle.

Masonic device and Illuminati All seeing Eye monument - Again Israeli Supreme Court"

Better call the cops. Oh damn, the cops are owned by the Jews.

"Article about the above - http://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-israel-supreme-court/"

The article makes errors even in it's first paragraph. The architects were not chosen by the Rothschilds - they were chosen in a competition. So why do you use that site as a source when you ought to know that it is lying to you? I read two articles on it today, both of them being pure lies, easily debunkable by checking the facts elsewhere.

"Sounds like you are the one getting your knickers in a twist Herschel"

I probably am, because it's dawning on me that we don't stand a chance. Most of us have squandered what we have. 3 billion years of evolution down the drain.

Anonymous said...

An interesting article on freemasonry and how it controls the Judas Goats of white nationalism:

http://revolutionharry.blogspot.co.uk/2010/06/is-nick-griffin-freemason-why-new-world.html

Allan@Aberdeen

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Keiser said...

NU also said...
"You don't have a god. No one does."

How can you be so sure? How do you know? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. If I could prove God exists then he wouldn't be God. QED.

Sometimes I think that atheism is the biggest religion of them all.

Atheists are the most dogmatic, proselytizing bunch around.

Keiser said...

Nastiest Uncle said...

"@Keiser 19:35

[Keiser said]
"Which "God" the Lazy Jewish Demiurge you mean"


No, it isn't of that."





No, it isn't - Nastiest Uncle

Classic (Thanks James)

igl55 said...

Is not B'nai Brith the Jewish Masonry??

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Keiser 21:45

No, it isn't - Nastiest Uncle

I put that in there for James to pick up on, not you.

Dan said...

Meis Van Der Rohe.

Now that's a motherfucking architect.

Sir John Soanes was vastly more impressive though. The picture Gallery at his house on Lincoln Square is a marvel. He created modern London and New York from this compact seminary. You all just live in his world.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Keiser 21:42

"How can you be so sure? How do you know?"

Because my brain works pretty well in that respect.

"Atheists are the most dogmatic, proselytizing bunch around."

Only as dogmatic as someone who has worked out that 2+3=5.

Anyway, I'm a naturalistic pantheist which just means an acceptance of the bleedin' obvious.

Thought plus intellectual honesty leads to atheism. Extending that thought leads to naturalistic pantheism. It's a piece of piss.

Franz said...

Nastiest Uncle --

What's this crap f about gullibilty?

I explicitly posted quote & link because (as I said) Ive heard stuff LIKE it all my life.

Fact is, American history is knee-deep in Masonic lore. Anytime before 1950, any public building incorporated "sacred alignments" and historical references. It's so obvious that a Brit astrologer got a whole book out of it:

The Secret Architecture of Our Nation's Capital: The Masons and the Building of Washington, D.C. by David Ovason

(Ovason became a citizen during his studies hence "our" nation.)

Uncle Nasty said...

.
Yesterday was obviously payday.

My switch-off finger has never been so busy.

UN
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Dan said...

Dawkin's will at some point realize that his career undermining the Christian faith will have merely opened the door to Islam. Perhaps on his deathbed he will accept this truth. He seems to have slowly and belatedly come this realization. But now he has done so every journalist will seek and destroy. Dawkin's is among the most self delusional dishonest men I've ever met.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Dan 22:28

"Dawkin's is among the most self delusional dishonest men I've ever met."

If that came from a real, decent person then it would be the cause for some concern. But since your world is so topsy turvy it's quite a compliment for the nigga.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Franz 22:22

Haven't you worked out yet that most of the sources you and you guise use are just there to take advantage of the gullible.
You may as well be Muslims in a mosque, being told that some monkeys stoned another monkey to death for illegal sexual intercourse. You'll believe anything.

Dan said...

Why do you bother with this Nastiest Uncle Cunt, Savant?

Uncle Nasty said...

As a matter of interest, Syria has been zapping its rebels with Sarin gas, no?

Maybe not.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mtewylzmxls/UimACVOEUhI/AAAAAAACbE4/Kdi_H3FXAcg/s1600/29jan2013.jpg

Note the date on the article.

UN
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Dan said...

Nastiest,

Can you pick the odd one out?

1) Thomas Aquinas
2) Charles Darwin
3) Richard Dawkins
4) Stephen Jay Gould

And why is your answer valid?

Dan said...

This is gonna be good.

Uncle Nasty said...

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Off topic to this thread, but I think of great interest to those who have a retirement fund, a pension or even a few bucks in the cheque account ...

Stage two begins -- in Poland.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-06/poland-confiscates-half-private-pension-funds-cut-sovereign-debt-load

Poland Confiscates Half Of Private Pension Funds To "Cut" Sovereign Debt Load

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 09/06/2013 14:50 -0400

While the world was glued to the developments in the Mediterranean in the past week, Poland took a page straight out of Rahm Emanuel's playbook and in order to not let a crisis go to waste, announced quietly that it would transfer to the state - i.e., confiscate - the bulk of assets owned by the country's private pension funds (many of them owned by such foreign firms as PIMCO parent Allianz, AXA, Generali, ING and Aviva), without offering any compensation. In effect, the state just nationalized roughly half of the private sector pension fund assets, although it had a more politically correct name for it: pension overhaul.

By way of background, Poland has a hybrid pension system: as Reuters explains, mandatory contributions are made into both the state pension vehicle, known as ZUS, and the private funds, which are collectively known by the Polish acronym OFE. Bonds make up roughly half the private funds' portfolios, with the rest company stocks.

And while a change to state-pension funds was long awaited - an overhaul if you will - nobody expected that this would entail a literal pillage of private sector assets.


Dont you just love that last sentence?

"nobody expected that this would entail a literal pillage of private sector assets."

Yeah, right.

"But that's Poland!" everyone says ... I don't live in Poland!"

Looks like it's time to invest in a good mattress to stash your wealth, if any ... and a black market SKS to protect it

UN
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Uncle Nasty said...

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Dan said...

Nastiest,

Can you pick the odd one out?

1) Thomas Aquinas
2) Charles Darwin
3) Richard Dawkins
4) Stephen Jay Gould

And why is your answer valid?
6 September 2013 22:57


Stephen Jay Gould ... lying jewboy.

Do I get a prize?

UN
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Keiser said...

"Nastiest Uncle said...

@Keiser 21:45

No, it isn't - Nastiest Uncle

I put that in there for James to pick up on, not you.
6 September 2013 22:10"


You are exhibiting much butthurts, myriad butthurts NU.

"Thought plus intellectual honesty leads to atheism. Extending that thought leads to naturalistic pantheism. It's a piece of piss."

Actually it's the most facile reasoning I have ever seen.

Anonymous said...

Nastiest your little brain is going to fry, corporate logos are loaded with symbology, now you comming with your meagre 35yrs of life, and pitting it against thousands of years of deep knowledge, my you are alittle arrogant shit, so cock sure in your ignorance, secret societies are secret to a point, and quite visible in others, the royal houses in europe for example, secret society, you know what they allow you to know.

The all seeing eye is a symbol, symbols are used, because it keeps people such as yourself out the circle, people who take things at face value, my god you are a plank.

Now you asserting that a checkered floor means nothing, according to who, you or the masons, cause according to the masons a checkered floor has a meaning, that why you have a checkered floor in cathedral too, it has a meaning and it was done so that planks such as yourself would only see a checkered floor, and not grasp the meaning behind it, and here you come with your 2byte RAM trying to sound intelligent, I hope you not like this when you interact with real people, cause out of politeness they probably not telling you that you have a personality depth of puddle.

Little nastiest, arguing about the symbology of the ancient world, with out even doing proper research, more intensly idiotic you can't get. Do you know how stupid you come across, you arguing with ancient knowledge, the knowledge of hinduism, buddahism, taoism. Your arguments reflect your shallow thinking, secret societies are secret, so no one should no about them. Please don't say that in public cause people will look at you funny.

We hope that we can make you look stupid here, so that it doesn't come across as badly in real life.

I knew you to be an empty vessel, but never this empty, mozart must be wasted on you, you probably here noise and not music, you probably can't understand what the music is saying.

Third eye awakening is ancient knowledge hidden from plebbs such as yourself, who lack the mental faculties to grasp it, when you look at a cathedral you see stone and mortar, you don't see the meaning behind it, it was done that way, to keep numb nuts such as yourself in the dark, you just don't have what's needed to understand. 3rd eye awakening is def, beyond your capabilities. You have neither the patience required or depth to even start achieving it. You like a kid, everything is face value, you can't delve into the deeper meaning.

That's why its hidden, in the sense that you actually have to use your brain to get to the meaning.

The bible is written in code, there is the face value, and behind the face value there is the meaning.

Altho its in plain site, its secret, so planks like you can't see it, ever come across this little gem?

Knock and the door will be opened, search and it will be revealed, it isn't put in a convienient package and handed to you, if you want to know, go look for it, but intellectually you lacking, and that why it was hidden.

Dan said...

Not correct Nasty.

Dan said...

Here is a clue, one of the above does not believe in miracles. The other three believe in miracles.

Sponge Cake said...



The new Criminal Justice (Forensic Evidence and DNA Database) Bill is set to be published by Minister for Justice Alan Shatter next Tuesday after it was approved at yesterday’s Cabinet meeting. The move follows repeated broken promises by successive governments on the creation of a DNA database, which is in operation in a large number of countries in the EU and farther afield.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/criminals-will-be-forced-to-give-dna-sample-under-new-legislation-1.1517882

James said...

But it does show that certainly not all freemasons are what the only-enlightened-people-in-the-world would desperately like them to be.

Now you are ascribing absurdities to people.
Stop it. You are wasting bandwidth. Everyone knows about the know-nothing masons and the know-nothing Jews.

I bet you know a few catholics too. I bet those Catholics have never hurt anyone. Yet you will still blame the church for all sorts of things. Think a bit before you shoot your mouth off.

James said...

But no one has ever seen ghosts, demons or magic.

Your faith in their non-existence is almost religious in character.

Save your crappy opinions on matters you have not studied and know nothing about.

James said...

Why does there have to be a belief that there are secret organisations controlling things?

I agree, and it's because people are stupid.
50 years ago, they used to believe in this secret organisation called the MAFIA, and thought it controlled all sorts of crime. Morons.

James said...

Everyone knows about the mafia.--nastiestuncle

They do now. Decades ago it was a conspiracy theory. Dumbass.

James said...

You don't have a god. No one does.--nastiestuncle

What a twat. Worships his own ignorance like a god.

James said...

Thought plus intellectual honesty leads to atheism. Extending that thought leads to naturalistic pantheism. It's a piece of piss.

...to a piece of shit.

James said...

The article makes errors even in it's first paragraph. The architects were not chosen by the Rothschilds - they were chosen in a competition.

At random? No judges?

Sorry man, but you failed again.

James said...

If atheism was real and there was no afterlife, I'd just kill myself now. Why not?

We don't because mysterious forces prevent us from doing so, and we have faith in something bigger than us.

We don't.--nastiestuncle

Go kill yourself then, and find out the truth about something for once in your life.

James said...

Only as dogmatic as someone who has worked out that 2+3=5.

You didn't work that out. You were told it.
Stop being so ignorant.

You wouldn't even have the brain power to work that out. And proving it would be utterly beyond you. Do you know how long it took for mathematicians to derive a proof that 1+1=2?

Anonymous said...

Antony Flew spent most of his life as an 'atheist'...... in itself a religion.

He passed having another view.

But the Nastiest Yarmulke knows everything..... now.... and better.

Being full to the brim with answers to every question never asked,,,,,,,, he would make an excellent believing supremacist jew, the existential manifestation of bipedal magnificence, as it is written.

Anonymous said...

Nigarsmell

Dan said...

Charles Darwin is the only odd one out. He did not believe in miracles.

Chuck Hammer said...

James
If atheism was real and there was no afterlife, I'd just kill myself now. Why not?


I've asked myself this every day since I was a teenager. So here ya go.

1) Being alive can be entertaining. The good bits can be really good.
2) Your Mom (fill in person of your choice if you don't have a Mom) would be upset.
3) You'll get there (dead, that is) soon enough. There's no hurry.
4) Your brain knows life is essentially pointless but your DNA is nevertheless not ready to off itself.
5) It takes courage, real courage, to do it.

The loonies have shown up in force on this comment thread. I've particularly enjoyed the logical inversion that atheists are the true religious zealots.

I (mostly) disagree with NU on the Joo issue, but on just about everything else he's da man.

James said...

Well Chuck, he's "the man" because he takes the easy road. I could criticize people like that all day too if I wanted.

Name one piece of information/insight/knowledge, anything of value you have got from him.

Can you think of one thing??

James said...

Biblical prophecy is real, and here's the proof:


MARIJUANA & MARRIAGE For those who haven't heard, Washington State just passed both laws - legalized gay marriage and legalized marijuana.
The fact that gay marriage and marijuana were legalized on the same day makes perfect biblical sense, because Leviticus 20:13 says:
"If a man lies with another man they should be stoned."

James said...

Number 4 is outstanding in its foolishness.

4) Your brain knows life is essentially pointless but your DNA is nevertheless not ready to off itself.

You really believe that? That sounds utterly wrong to me. Its like people that say they are white because of an "accident of birth". How do they know?

People that think this way = hypocritical lunatics.

Anonymous said...

Savant, very strong org, here in Chicago on the police and other city depts that i know of,BUT,the Paddies had it for years and nepotism was blatant and wide spread and smart remarks were cast around about guys ethnic backgrounds at various roll calls and saw some great fights in the roll call rooms and the parking lots of the stations,saw a group of narrow back coppers in a resturant verbally jump on a guy and called him a dumb Polack..big mistake on their part, im talking chairs and tables overturned.bottles cracked over guys heads,one man wrecking crew,I finally grabbed the guy and told him to get in his squad and go home sick . anyway 3 broken noses, black eyes you would not beleive,then these assholes wanted me to be a witness to the mayhem to try to get the guy fired, i refused and said the guy was justified,all charges were dropped against the guy as we found out he was a Mason and well. narrow backs will alaways be narrow backs,but I was asked to join but raising 4 kids and a mortage each month found it impossible,but never thought them evil and found them totally honest more then we can say for our Catholic brethern,their org does do excellent works,burn clinic here in Chicago 2nd to none free for kids,constructing add ons for disabled returning GIS,well thats about all buddy,john old rtd chicago copper...

Uncle Nasty said...

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I'm happy to report that the Irate Irishman is back in business.

http://irateirishman.com/blog/

UN
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Chuck Hammer said...

James
You really believe that? That sounds utterly wrong to me. Its like people that say they are white because of an "accident of birth". How do they know?


I'll spell it out for you. DNA that codes the behavioral trait of a propensity to commit suicide is not reproductively favorable. You exist solely as a machine to replicate your DNA. So....a suicidal propensity (by itself) is not a viable genetic trait. With me so far?

But.....for whatever reason, and we can talk about that.....evolution has given you a far bigger brain than you really need. And all that processing power can tie itself in existential knots. One of those knots is arriving at the understanding that there is no Creator, no grand design, no reason for your existence other than an endless series of improbable accidents. As a matter of fact YOU don't really exist. Does a spider have an ego? A soul? Nope. The fact that you think you exist is just an artefact of the complexity of your sensory organs and the brain that processes their inputs.

Tie that all together and you get:
4) Your brain knows life is essentially pointless but your DNA is nevertheless not ready to off itself.

Seems straightforward to me. Stick a pistol in your mouth and your DNA screams "Nooooooo!"

Chuck Hammer said...

James
Well Chuck, he's "the man" because he takes the easy road. I could criticize people like that all day too if I wanted.


I don't like his style, at all, at all. And he has an agenda. Duh. But he does advocate critical thinking.

I'll tell you something that never comes up here. I'm not in the 1% but I'm close and I know many of them, family and friends. These people, none of whom are Joos, feel no kinship with working class whites. I do, let me make that clear, but they don't. The lives of the white people at the top of our societies are lived in a bubble of separation and privilege. These people throw their fellow whites under the bus without a second thought because they have (they think) nothing in common with them. Western civilization is in decline because of an inexorable cycle of decadence and decay and the Joos, some of them, at most, are just giving us a shove to help us along.

kulak said...

Antony Flew spent most of his life as an 'atheist'...... in itself a religion.

That's right.

Atheists are also usually scientistic, and scientism doesn't even meet its own requirements.

parisclaims said...

The Israelis are taking action to deal with the mass influx of asylum seekers from sub-Saharan Africa: they are shipping them out to Uganda, with some incentives to induce the Ugandan government to agree to the deal.

Could Europe learn from Israel’s example?

The following article from unzensuriert.at was translated from German into Dutch by E.J.Bron, and from Dutch into English for Gates of Vienna by El Rubio:


Israel ships black African asylum seekers out to Uganda

Israel is shipping thousands of black African asylum seekers out to Uganda. Right now there are 55,000 African asylum seekers n Israel. Many of them beg, hang around in he streets or hire themselves out as day laborers. Israel wants to get rid of these uninvited guests. Therefore the Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu made a deal with the dictator Museveni in Uganda. Israel will give Uganda development assistance and weapons for its army, and in return Uganda will take the asylum seekers.

Israel will provide Uganda with mortars, artillery guns and surveillance systems, and also it will train fighter pilots in Israel.

Gem Junior said...

I wouldn't laugh it off at all. Evil is real, the devil is real, and those who serve him are rewarded in this world because this is his world and he can't reward his minions with eternal life only eternal suffering. The language is what sounds preposterous and overly dramatic because that's how it has been 'spun' to sound. Like only an ignorant redneck or culchee could fall for it. Only a 'holy roller' who isn't sophisticated enough to appreciate the higher senses of hard core porn, for example, would be crazy enough to talk of 'evil' being real.... the best trick is to fool those into thinking you don't exist. What a trick -- it's working really well and has been for a long time.

kulak said...

Stage two begins -- in Poland.

Not so fast UN! I know, I know, the title is juicy, but it could be the zero hedge staff just doesn't like Poles.(!)

Consider:

1) Participant gives his cash to the private pension fund. The pension fund now has a future liability to the participant and an asset.

2) Fund buys government bond. Government gains cash and a debt obligation to the fund.

3) Government comes back a few years later and says I'm cutting out the middleman. I'm taking back (1) the bond, (2) the current cash flow, and (3) the future liability to the participant.

Net effect: The government exchanges a debt obligation for a direct pension liability to the participant. Government gains cash flow. Shylock doesn't get his interest.

Why is that so bad?

Chuck Hammer said...

Evil is real, the devil is real.... the best trick is to fool those into thinking you don't exist.

If I could prove God exists then he wouldn't be God.

So you're both sure the devil and God exist, respectively, because there's absolutely no evidence for their existence. And to close the circle, in God's case evidence of his existence would actually mean he didn't exist.

But taking the position that a total absence of evidence for the existence of, say, leprechauns probably means leprechauns don't exist constitutes an irrational religious belief. I see.

Chuck Hammer said...

kulak
Why is that so bad?


You can't be serious. Because a private sector asset under direct control and ownership of a private citizen has been converted - stolen actually - into a public sector liability. To be repaid at the government's whim at some future time in inflated fiat currency. Maybe. The private sector shrinks and the bloated, inefficient, value-destroying public sector leviathan grows ever larger.

In the USA we recently passed the point where more than 50% of the population relies on the government for all or some of its daily bread. That number must be higher in Europe. So the game is to petition the government to prevent those other people getting what they want while you continue to suck from the government tit. Which is why we're all essentially fucked.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Dan 22:57

"Nastiest,

Can you pick the odd one out?

1) Thomas Aquinas
2) Charles Darwin
3) Richard Dawkins
4) Stephen Jay Gould

And why is your answer valid?"

4) Stephen Jay Gould - because he has three parts to his name; the others all have two.

1) Thomas Aquinas - this is the only name with a 'q' in it.

2) Charles Darwin - his is the only name which is an anagram of "handrail screw".

Did I get it right?

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Chuck Hammer 08:33

The aims of the US and British (and other) governments is to make as many citizens as possible clients of the state, to make the people think that the State is kind of like a buxom mother who embraces you into her bosom which is warm and safe and full of nourishment.

If you think you need the government or are afraid of what might happen to you without it, then you will continue to vote for big government.

The bigger the government, the less free the people. National socialists love big government.

Nastiest Uncle said...

James is all upset again. His butthurts threaten to set of an earthquake of magnitude 9.0.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Anonymous 23:31

"Nastiest your little brain is going to fry"

That's quite a fetish you have there.

"corporate logos are loaded with symbology"

Only if you're desperate to see it.

"now you comming with your meagre 35yrs of life"

Not a million miles away my negro.

"and pitting it against thousands of years of deep knowledge"

I reckon I'll win.

"my you are alittle arrogant shit"

Mostly right.

"so cock sure in your ignorance"

Stop talking about my cock or I'll tell Putin.

"secret societies are secret to a point"

Ah, so you are going to name them secret-to-a-point-societies.

"and quite visible in others"

So not secret at all.

"the royal houses in europe for example, secret society, you know what they allow you to know"

Unless you have a whistle-blower.

"The all seeing eye is a symbol, symbols are used, because it keeps people such as yourself out the circle"

Symbols can't keep me out of shit.

"people who take things at face value, my god you are a plank."

I sense that your feelings of frustration are growing.

"Now you asserting that a checkered floor means nothing"

It doesn't matter what it means. It is just a chequered floor. It does not have magical powers.

"according to who, you or the masons, cause according to the masons a checkered floor has a meaning"

My farts have meaning too. They mean that I ate a curry last night.

"that why you have a checkered floor in cathedral too"

No it isn't. It's because it looks nice.

"it has a meaning and it was done so that planks such as yourself would only see a checkered floor"

Let's make a chequered floor so that people only see a chequered floor. Makes perfect sense.

"and not grasp the meaning behind it"

It doesn't matter if it has meaning. It is not magic.

"and here you come with your 2byte RAM trying to sound intelligent"

My nigger, that is even less powerful than a ZX81.

"I hope you not like this when you interact with real people, cause out of politeness they probably not telling you that you have a personality depth of puddle."

A puddle which is really the biggest sinkhole in the world.

"Little nastiest, arguing about the symbology of the ancient world, with out even doing proper research"

I don't have to waste my time researching it. I already know that magic isn't real.

"more intensly idiotic you can't get."

Wasting time researching it is surely intensely more idiotic.

"Do you know how stupid you come across"

Of course I do, my nigger.

"you arguing with ancient knowledge"

Ancient bullshit from ancient peoples who believed in magic and sheeit.

"the knowledge of hinduism, buddahism, taoism."

Knowledge? Or just bullshit?

"Your arguments reflect your shallow thinking, secret societies are secret, so no one should no about them. Please don't say that in public cause people will look at you funny."

And yet there are a group of enlightened people who seem to know all about these secret societies. Because they watched a Youtube video.

Nastiest Uncle said...

"We hope that we can make you look stupid here, so that it doesn't come across as badly in real life."

My nigger, that did make me laugh.

"I knew you to be an empty vessel"

My nigger. I am like a cruise ship without any passengers.

"but never this empty"

I can get rid of all my fuel, supplies, fixtures and fittings if you would like me to be emptier.

"mozart must be wasted on you"

I prefer Tchaikovsky.

"you probably here noise and not music"

My nigger. You are confusing Mozart with death metal. An easy mistake to make though.

"you probably can't understand what the music is saying."

It's saying "Jews did 911, gibber gibber".

"Third eye awakening is ancient knowledge hidden from plebbs such as yourself"

Your third eye is what piss and spunk come out of.

"when you look at a cathedral you see stone and mortar, you don't see the meaning behind it"

Any meaning is meaningless since it's not magic.

"it was done that way, to keep numb nuts such as yourself in the dark"

Hey yo, let's build a cathedral to keep numb nuts in the dark.
Shouldn't we build it for people to worship in?
Naaa, let's do it for the numb nuts.

"you just don't have what's needed to understand."

You're talking about gullibility.

"3rd eye awakening is def"

Leppard?

"beyond your capabilities."

But it doesn't exist.

"You have neither the patience required or depth to even start achieving it."

But since it doesn't exist, why would I want to?

"You like a kid"

I like several kids, all of them family members. They think I'm great because I pwn n00bs like you.

"everything is face value, you can't delve into the deeper meaning."

It doesn't matter about any deeper meaning, because it's not magic.

"That's why its hidden, in the sense that you actually have to use your brain to get to the meaning."

The meaning doesn't matter because magic doesn't exist.

"The bible is written in code"

No, it isn't. Code can be found in any large book.

"there is the face value, and behind the face value there is the meaning."

Which is meaningless.

"Altho its in plain site, its secret"

And only the enlightened ones can see it, even though seeing it is pointless because magic isn't real.

"so planks like you can't see it"

What, even if they are 2 by 4?

"ever come across this little gem?"

Give me a link to the gem.

"Knock and the door will be opened"

No need my nigger. I have the key.

"search and it will be revealed"

There's nothing to be revealed. Because there is no magic.

"it isn't put in a convienient package and handed to you"

That's not strictly true. I bought some smoked cheese yesterday which was both conveniently packaged and was handed to me.

"if you want to know, go look for it"

Yeah man. That's how I found the butchers which was selling the cheese. They had a cheese counter and everything.

"but intellectually you lacking, and that why it was hidden"

That's what the butcher said when I told him that I hadn't previously known that his butcher's shop was there. He said it was because I was intellectually lacking. I said that's not true, it's just that I haven't been there before. He said I should use my third eye next time. I just walked off without paying in the end. Bloody freemason butcher Illuminati reptiles telling me what to do.

Peter A. said...

'the courage to know' is a great expression. I believe that the difficulties we 'awakened ones' have in trying to get others to see is that they in fact do not have the courage to know. They DO know that something is badly wrong and fear the explanation. That is a major problem for us.

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Keiser said...

Chuck Hammer said...
[Keiser said]"If I could prove God exists then he wouldn't be God."

"So you're both sure the devil and God exist, respectively, because there's absolutely no evidence for their existence. And to close the circle, in God's case evidence of his existence would actually mean he didn't exist."


Not exactly Chuck, I am saying that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Which in and of itself is not proof.

For example there was no direct evidence for the atom as we know it in the 1100's yet we can actually see them with electron microscopes today. What I am saying is just because we don't have evidence for something doesn't discount the possibility of its existence.

Now in the special case of God. We can never have evidence since that would then be a measure of God (a proof) and by definition if I can measure and prove God's existence what does that make me and what does it make that "God" that has been laid out with full proof on a peer reviewed scientific journal article? Not much of a God at all in fact.

I think that in actuality God can only ever be "proved" by faith and that is a matter for the individual. I don't go around try to shove my beliefs down peoples throats like a lot of atheists do. The truth is no one can ever prove that God exists. If that constitutes non-existence for atheists then great, good for them.

Like that line from South Park in the Dawkins episode where one of the characters said...

"Richard Dawkins showed us that it is not enough to live a life by the principles of reason and logic, you have to be a complete dick to anyone that doesn't think like you too."

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Peter A. 09:56

"I believe that the difficulties we 'awakened ones' have in trying to get others to see is that they in fact do not have the courage to know."

What utter shit.

Muslims call themselves the awakened ones.
Jehovah's Witnesses call themselves the awakened ones.
UAF call themselves the awakened ones.

What do they have in common?
They all speak utter shit.

Awakened ones my arse.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Keiser said...

"For example there was no direct evidence for the atom as we know it in the 1100's yet we can actually see them with electron microscopes today."

But this does not mean that god exists. Atoms are not an absurd concept. God is.

"What I am saying is just because we don't have evidence for something doesn't discount the possibility of its existence."

The concept of god (outside of merely being the sum total of all natural laws which allow creation to exist) is an absurdity. Some all-knowing dude who knows already all the things you will do in your life, creates you anyway to see if you will masturbate, even though he already knows whether you will or not.

"We can never have evidence since that would then be a measure of God (a proof) and by definition if I can measure and prove God's existence what does that make me and what does it make that "God" that has been laid out with full proof on a peer reviewed scientific journal article? Not much of a God at all in fact."

Rubbish. There is no reason why, if god existed, it would not be provable or knowable.

"I think that in actuality God can only ever be "proved" by faith"

Nothing can be proved by faith. Faith requires nothing other than feeling.

"and that is a matter for the individual."

No it isn't. Reality exists outside of what any particular person notices or believes.

"I don't go around try to shove my beliefs down peoples throats like a lot of atheists do."

This is because your belief is an absurdity and you know it, whereas atheists have a pretty strong case and you know it.

"The truth is no one can ever prove that God exists."

Unless god is the sum total of all natural laws which allow creation to exist, in which case it's very easy to prove the existence of god, if you decide to call it god of course.

"Like that line from South Park in the Dawkins episode where one of the characters said...

"Richard Dawkins showed us that it is not enough to live a life by the principles of reason and logic, you have to be a complete dick to anyone that doesn't think like you too.""

Only the believers in absurdities think he is being a dick, and this is because they suffer great butthurts at being told that they believe in absurdities. No one likes a smart arse. Richard Dawkins is a smart arse.

You guise think I'm a dick for the way I talk to you lot, and yet there are many people who would think that I am lenient. To many people, lining you all up against a wall and shooting you would not even qualify for "dick-like" behaviour.

heuristic said...

'Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence'.

Keiser, that is both logically and experientially true. On a few rare occasions when I was meditating I entered a state of mind which is beyond description. The experience convinced me that we have within ourselves the most extraordinary powers. Perhaps this is what the Luciferian concept is about - trying to gain structured access to such powers.

I of course don't know. But keep an open mind. In every sense. (Puns intended!).

Nastiest Uncle said...

@heuristic 10:28

"Keiser, that is both logically and experientially true. On a few rare occasions when I was meditating I entered a state of mind which is beyond description. The experience convinced me that we have within ourselves the most extraordinary powers."

You can gain the same effects with certain drugs. Try some acid. You may well believe that you can fly.

"Perhaps this is what the Luciferian concept is about - trying to gain structured access to such powers."

Naaa. That's just made-up shit.

"But keep an open mind."

Open-minded people reject the absurdities.

Keiser said...
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Keiser said...

@ Heuristic,
Yes meditation is good as it helps people understand the reflective part of themselves, the objectively viewed "me" as opposed to the assertive, active and subjective "I". Too many people partialise themselves to I. I am, I know, etc, etc.

For example "I" am always right...

NU said...
"To many people, lining you all up against a wall and shooting you would not even qualify for "dick-like" behaviour."

You think like a Muslim NU

[Keiser said] "Like that line from South Park in the Dawkins episode where one of the characters said...

"Richard Dawkins showed us that it is not enough to live a life by the principles of reason and logic, you have to be a complete dick to anyone that doesn't think like you too.""


[NU said] Only the believers in absurdities think he is being a dick, and this is because they suffer great butthurts at being told that they believe in absurdities."


I rest my case.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Keiser 10:58

"You think like a Muslim NU"

No my nigger. I can empathise. And, lots of people would like to line up national socialists and shoot them.

"I rest my case."

No my nigger, I rest mine.

Anonymous said...

Atheists are the enemies of the white race. If you don't believe in God, shut the fuck up about it and mind your own business. Do not spread nihilism among other whites. If I was certain God didn't exist I would kill myself immediately, it's the only logical thing to do.

No society can exist without Religion. The Taliban were always going to defeat US/UK because they are stronger spiritually. All the AH64s in the world can't defeat religious belief. Christ the yanks lose more troops to suicide than enemy action. Why? Because the atheist west is meaningless. This is why we are losing.

Keiser said...

NU said...

"No my nigger. I can empathise. And, lots of people would like to line up national socialists and shoot them."

So you advocate violence.

Furthermore National Socialist is an antiquated term, stop using it. I am not a National Socialist. You can see from my writings here that I don't believe in violence against any peoples, merely a separation and I am against any agenda to mix everyone up in to a deracinated mass. I like diversity. I also have no problem with an individual's personal choice, just the agenda.

What part of that makes me a National Socialist?

NU said...
[Keiser said...]"I rest my case."

No my nigger, I rest mine.


Hush now child.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Anonymous 11:21

"Atheists are the enemies of the white race."

Quite wrong. It's the Christian concept of bending over backwards for your enemies which is at fault. It's inevitable that whites will become atheists because whites are intelligent. It was secularism which saved Europe from itself.

"If you don't believe in God, shut the fuck up about it and mind your own business."

Why should we? You Christians get your bells and shit.

"Do not spread nihilism among other whites."

Atheism isn't nihilism.

"If I was certain God didn't exist I would kill myself immediately, it's the only logical thing to do."

Logical to someone with a brain the size of a pea, perhaps.

"No society can exist without Religion."

Says who? God? Lol.

"The Taliban were always going to defeat US/UK because they are stronger spiritually."

No, they were always going to win because the way to defeat fatalist Muslim types is to utterly slay them, old and young, wherever you find them. And we can't do that any more.

"All the AH64s in the world can't defeat religious belief."

Unless you kill the people with that belief.

"Christ the yanks lose more troops to suicide than enemy action. Why? Because the atheist west is meaningless."

No, it's because the US has overwhelming firepower so the enemy rarely get a chance to shoot back.

"This is why we are losing."

No, it's because we don't assassinate our leaders. You defeat your enemies by giving them an incentive not to fight.

Would Shatter still allow in thousands of invaders if he was made aware that his family would be strung up as a result of his actions?

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Keiser 11:54

"So you advocate violence."

No, I'm saying that that is what lots of people would like to do.

"Furthermore National Socialist is an antiquated term, stop using it."

It's you guise who give yourself that label. Stop acting like them and you'll stop being called national socialists.

"I am not a National Socialist."

I know.

"What part of that makes me a National Socialist?"

You are not a national socialist. Plenty of the guise here are though.

"Hush now child."

What child?

Nastiest Uncle said...

OT: another poison gas attack in Syria. LOL.

Keiser said...

NU said...
[Keiser said]"Hush now child."

What child?


The one I have tied up in my basement.

Dan said...

Dawkins and Stephen Jay Gould believe in the miracle of Human Equality. Aquinas mearly believed in the miracle of the virgin birth. The funny thing about this is that virgin birth is quite possible with artificial insemination. It's scientifically plausible to have a pregnancy without sexual contact.

Even though both of these biologists peddle evolution for low brow consumption in dumbed down and in accurate books, they have actually stated that all humans are equal beings and more or less share universal human consciousness. we are asked to believe that evolution is a constant, at the same time we must believe that niggers are not throwbacks.

Darwin believed in none of this.

Dan said...

In many ways the errors that Dawkins and Jay Gould have made are less excusable than than Aquinas's theology. Dawkins and Gould knew about genetic research but they stubbornly decided to cling to the idea that genetic shifts have no effect on cognition and that every Pygmy, Inuit, Yanomami, Bushmam share an essentially unchanged brain. The human brain. Even though all these examples of human breeds have undoubted physical differences, evolution had no effect on the structure of their minds.

Anonymous said...

Networking is all it's about . . . Networking

Anonymous said...

Oh, and its a jewish

The Truth Will Out said...

Why is anyone humouring this lying filthy kike troll?

He has posted in the past links to websites detailing how homemade bombs can be made and Savant does not even attempt to edit or censor it, he lies non-stop yet is encouraged to post more.

I simply cannot be bothered wading through all the hasbara noise.

Anyway advice to watch the movie Forces Occultes was again undermined by the resident lying judan with a casual lie.

If you want to know anything about a subject, look to what those who don't want you to know, tell you to avoid.

FORCES OCCULTES (=Occult Powers)

1943. B&W movie. Original French Dialog with English subtitles

This is the very best film to understand that freemasonry really is, it shows how freemasonry can at first appear benign and just how intrinsic in starting WWII it was.

Following WW2, the film's writer, Jean-Marie Rivière, was imprisoned. Its producer, Robert Muzard, and director, Paul Riche, were EXECUTED (+1949) for their part in the production of this film


Download from Holy war movie website

Or watch on Youtube here


Nice to see the lying kike hasbarat glorying in jewish instigation of WWIII, much LOLZ to be had in Satan's own getting us to fight their WW3.

"Nastiest Uncle said...
OT: another poison gas attack in Syria. LOL.
"

Cos it's pwoppa funny ain't it!

Savant, if this is the best you can conjure up as demonstration of a good jew, then perhaps you should have a change of hasbara friend to spam this place up, as the jews appear to be dragging us into another world war, right now.

Anonymous said...

Nastiest Uncle said...
@Peter A. 09:56

"I believe that the difficulties we 'awakened ones' have in trying to get others to see is that they in fact do not have the courage to know."

What utter shit

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That alone confirms Peter as correct although I was already in agreement prior to nastiest's endorsement.

Allan@Aberdeen

katana said...

Anonymous said...7 September 2013 11:21

Atheists are the enemies of the white race. If you don't believe in God, shut the fuck up about it and mind your own business. Do not spread nihilism among other whites.
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Whether you are serious or just stirring the pot, your above views probably do represent what some believers think deep down.

But that view is quite wrong, just as it would be to say:

'God believers are the enemies of the white race. If you do believe in God, shut the fuck up about it and mind your own business. Do not spread nonsense among other whites.'

Belief in 'God' or not can be and I think is a separate issue regarding fighting for the White race. I'm an 'atheist' and see that it's our duty to fight for our race against our enemies, just as I would fight for my family. Ones family is part of a vast extended family called race, after all. Fighting for ones family is instinctual and so is being concerned with other members of extended family, our race. Religion or ideology can strengthen or weaken that instinct, though.

That 'non-believers in God' should shut up lest they spread nihilism among Whites is also quite wrong.

That's a bogeyman that some believers like to believe in to stop themselves from straying from the fold, I'd say. Whether we are deeply religious in the conventional sense or whether we completely reject 'God' in a conventional sense, we all tend to believe in an organised process that governs our lives. The fundamentalist Christian who thinks God is looking over his shoulder and taking care of him, to the die-hard atheist who looks to the rules of nature, are both believers in an 'organised system'. One is called a religion while the other is called science. So we are all 'believers' in a broad sense and are all in the same boat when it comes to the issue of our race being under attack.


If I was certain God didn't exist I would kill myself immediately, it's the only logical thing to do.
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If you think like this then it should be a gigantic red flag that there is something seriously wrong with your belief system. In a fundamental sense you have been thoroughly brainwashed.

As a non-rabid atheist, I can assure you that life does truly exist in all its glory outside the shoebox called religion. Let's live and let live regarding religion among Whites.

And let's get back to that damn criminal tribe that obviously and blatantly controls the USA and thus the West. It's current agenda is to destroy Syria using Lies of Mass Destruction.

Anonymous said...

Read this and remember that this isn’t some fabrication:

http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Polls-Israelis-want-US-Europe-to-attack-Syria-but-against-IDF-intervention-324787


- The US and European countries should attack Syria, but Israel should not be involved in the assault, two polls in weekend Hebrew newspapers found.

While polls in the US and United Kingdom have found overwhelming opposition to their countries attacking Syria, a Gal Hadash poll published in Israel Hayom found that 66.6 percent of respondents would be in favor of American and European military intervention in Syria.

A separate Ma’agar Mohot poll published in Friday’s Ma’ariv found that Israelis overwhelmingly oppose an Israeli strike on Syria. If America does not intervene in Israel’s northeastern neighbor, 77% of respondents who expressed an opinion said Israel should not get involved militarily, 11% said the IDF should, and 12% said they did not know and other answers. -

Now that’s clear enough – Israelis want British and American soldiers to die for them. That is hardly surprising: they are, after all, the Chosen Ones, and the British and American soldiers are not.

Allan@Aberdeen

Dan said...

Joshua at least, seems to have fought his own battles. Netanyahu? He's outsourced it to Ohio farmboys and Christian-Zionist Groucho Club members.

Keiser said...

@The Truth will Out

RE: NU

I don't get too bothered by it but do have a look at how he reacted when I pointed out the semetic "all seeing eye" on the one dollar bill earlier.

This eye in a triangle on top of a pyramid (just like the ones at the Israeli Supreme Court and monuments outside it, accompanied by the freemason design as seen above) is apparently God looking over the 13 colonies according to NU.

Well that depends on what you consider God. I have never seen the Christian God represented like that so it must be some other "God" but the reaction of "So what" was priceless and told me all that I need to know about NU.

Anonymous said...

On the topic of whether we exist as a mind encased within a body, or just a biological body with a mind ... you decide:

VIDEOS

Chuck Hammer said...

Anonymous
Atheists are the enemies of the white race. If you don't believe in God, shut the fuck up about it and mind your own business. Do not spread nihilism among other whites. If I was certain God didn't exist I would kill myself immediately, it's the only logical thing to do.


I'm an atheist and I agree with you. Atheism is a serious attack on white culture. After grasping this I consider myself a secular Christian.

What is a tribe? A nation? Both are groups of people glued together by commonly held ideas, by culture. In fact a nation is more the ideas, the memes, held in common by its people than it is a definable area on a map. When those ideas slip away, so does the nation. The people within the nation or nations, the white race, are only as strong as their culture and when the culture disintegrates, so does the race.

So to an atheist, Christians may hold a set of illogical beliefs, but they're OUR illogical beliefs and we need them.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Keiser 15:46

"This eye in a triangle on top of a pyramid (just like the ones at the Israeli Supreme Court and monuments outside it, accompanied by the freemason design as seen above) is apparently God looking over the 13 colonies according to NU.

Well that depends on what you consider God. I have never seen the Christian God represented like that"

The eye was a Renaissance depiction of the Christian Trinity, often with an accompanying triangle.

""So what" was priceless and told me all that I need to know about NU."

What it should tell you is that you are taking it too seriously. "So what?" is entirely reasonable when faced with chequered walls or pyramids with circular viewing galleries in them. If you wanted to, you could see meaningless symbols wherever you looked.
There is no magic. A symbol cannot conjour up a spirit or demon. A symbol cannot give divine power.

Surely life is interesting enough without having to invent an idea that there is secret conspiracy everywhere.

What bothers me about it all is that potential allies in this coming fight against the destruction of our countries are basically just nutcases with their heads in the clouds.

Keiser said...

Sorry to distract from Chucks point above but

...and told me all that I need to know about NU.

I meant NU's viewpoint (not to be rude)

Keiser said...

"There is no magic. A symbol cannot conjour up a spirit or demon. A symbol cannot give divine power."

Of course not, it merely serves as a wink and a nod to those in the know. Like a secret handshake that kids do in a treehouse. The point is that this juvenile occult symbol, and it is an occult symbol, look it up, is ON THE CURRENCY OF A NATION, does that not concern you?

Chuck Hammer said...

On the topic of whether we exist as a mind encased within a body, or just a biological body with a mind ... you decide:

Neither. Some people start to hallucinate after just 15 minutes of sensory deprivation. It takes as little as 48 hours of total sensory deprivation for the personality to start to disintegrate. The thing that you think of as you, your self, your mind, will be completely erased after a sufficient period of total sensory deprivation.

Think about that for a while.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Chuck Hammer 16:15

"Atheism is a serious attack on white culture."

Which is largely Christian in origin. So what about the alien Christians who displaced the native Pagans.

We don't have to be Christian to retain our traditions and culture. We can retain aspects of it if we wish. Being an atheist does not involve rejecting everything which came from faith. But my observations of the natural way of my fellow English is that we are suited to being Pagan or of having a spiritual attachment to the land.

I'm not an atheist, but atheism is better than Christianity. Christianity tells us to turn the other cheek (for example to Muslim aggression)or to cross over the road to help the less fortunate (such as poor niggers).

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Keiser 16:23

"Of course not, it merely serves as a wink and a nod to those in the know."

Would anything be any different if those symbols were not used? No, it wouldn't.

"The point is that this juvenile occult symbol, and it is an occult symbol, look it up, is ON THE CURRENCY OF A NATION, does that not concern you?"

Not in the slightest.

In any case, why would I get upset over the symbol of god watching over a country. Why would anyone?

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Anonymous 16:13

You haven't been keeping up with current events. There has been some recent news about "near death experiences" and guess what? Yup you guessed right, it's complete bullshit.

I had one once. It involved seeing a very bright light. Now, a simpleton might put that down to some sort of heavenly gateway kind of thing. But there is no need for such primitive explanations. Mine was caused by my nerves firing on full power because I was about to die.

Anonymous said...

A lying jew said...
"I'm not an atheist (oy vey!), but atheism is better than Christianity(double oy vey!. Christianity tells us to turn the other cheek (for example to Muslim aggression-Oy vey)or to cross over the road to help the less fortunate (such as poor niggers)."

Christianity; up till the crypto-jew led Vatican II reformation, used to teach its gullible flock to not trust the lying jews and called on us to defend our nations 109 times over the past millennia.

Christians used to take up the sword to defend their people and nation's against the alien jew, it was only with the fall of Christianity in the past century where they've been given free reign to do as they please and destroy us.

As we now can all so easily see.

Keiser said...

"In any case, why would I get upset over the symbol of god watching over a country. Why would anyone?

In this case it represents a semetic occult symbol, at best it represents "a" God, the Jewish God. You know the one that gives them stuff and tells them they are special not "the" God. Most likely is it occult in origin and purpose, after all freemasons heavily influenced the inception of and continue to influence the USA.

Chuck Hammer said...

Nastiest Uncle
I'm not an atheist, but atheism is better than Christianity. Christianity tells us to turn the other cheek (for example to Muslim aggression)or to cross over the road to help the less fortunate (such as poor niggers).


Richard the Lion Heart, a boyhood hero of mine, who I came to learn spoke French and not English btw, slaughtered the entire population of Ayyadieh.

A nation of atheists will very rationally not resist the Muslim hijra (conquest by migration).

A Christian English nation would irrationally unite under the banner of St. George and sweep the invaders into the sea.

As I grew older I became less sure I was right about everything.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@The Truth Will Out 14:33

"Why is anyone humouring this lying filthy kike troll?"

If I'm a kike, then you're a paedophile.

"He has posted in the past links to websites detailing how homemade bombs"

It's not illegal to view the Anarchist Handbook.

"he lies non-stop."

I don't lie. You do. It's why your name is The Truth Will Out so that gullible people might actually think you are telling the truth, lol.

"I simply cannot be bothered wading through all the hasbara noise."

It isn't hasbara noise.

"Anyway advice to watch the movie Forces Occultes was again undermined by the resident lying judan with a casual lie."

No, the truth. Which is that the film was commissioned by the Nazi propaganda department. Hence, the maker was executed after the war for treason. Quite right, too.

"Cos it's pwoppa funny ain't it!"

I laugh, because events like that have you lot wetting your knickers, scrambling in the dirt for a way to link it to Jews, or perhaps now, Freemasons, since I've discovered another boner-inducing obsession of yours.

"Savant, if this is the best you can conjure up as demonstration of a good jew, then perhaps you should have a change of hasbara friend to spam this place up, as the jews appear to be dragging us into another world war, right now."

Hush, you dirty paedo.

Anonymous said...

Why does there have to be a belief that there are secret organisations controlling things?

Where there's smoke....

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Chuck Hammer 16:44

"Richard the Lion Heart, a boyhood hero of mine, who I came to learn spoke French and not English btw, slaughtered the entire population of Ayyadieh."

Who says he was a Christian? We are what we are, not what we think we are, nor what other people say we are.

"A nation of atheists will very rationally not resist the Muslim hijra (conquest by migration)."

72% of the UK is Christian. It appears that we are a Christian country still.
The atheist Chinese are doing a pretty good job of not allowing in the nigger.
However, just because a person identifies as an atheist, it doesn't mean he isn't religious or religiously minded.

"A Christian English nation would irrationally unite under the banner of St. George and sweep the invaders into the sea."

If the invaders who have entered the UK (about ten million of them) turned up with guns and swords, they would be repelled just as historically invaders were repelled by the Christians. Christians though, fight to preserve the religion, not the race. We need to fight to preserve the race.

Anonymous said...

Dawkin's is among the most self delusional dishonest men I've ever met.

When and where did you meet him?

Chuck Hammer said...

Anonymous
Why does there have to be a belief that there are secret organisations controlling things?


We humans, with our big brains, spend a lot of time doing what I call "pattern fitting." We try and make sense of what we see around us, we build mental models of cause and effect. Most of which are complete garbage.

The so-called Bible Code is a classic example of pattern fitting. Take a big enough book with enough characters, spend enough time looking at it and you will absolutely find apparently meaningful hidden relationships. Which exist completely by chance and are the result of pattern fitting in a sufficiently large data set.

It takes an extra big brain, the scientific method, and often sophisticated statistical analysis to distinguish between causal relationships that are real and those that are only apparent.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Keiser 16:43

"In this case it represents a semetic occult symbol, at best it represents "a" God, the Jewish God."

No, it represents the Trinity. The Trinity isn't Jewish.

There may well be rooms full of men in front of their computers with their cocks out begging that it represents a Jewish god, but reality doesn't bend to the will of these fools.

"Most likely is it occult in origin and purpose, after all freemasons heavily influenced the inception of and continue to influence the USA."

But my nigger. The Eye of Providence was not adopted as a masonic symbol until well after it had been adopted by the US government. And the only mason involved in choosing the symbol was Benjamin Franklin and his ideas were not adopted anyway.

Nastiest Uncle said...

@Chuck Hammer 17:03

Yay!

Unfortunately, the internet has given everyone a voice. The answers which make people "feel" the nicest are the ones which are adopted.

Shaunantijihad said...

The guy who designed the then new Federal Reserve dollar bill was certainly a mason and used masonic symbols all over his design. What matters is that a group of Jewish bankers had usurped the US Constitution and replaced the lawful money with a counterfeit currency in 1913 - just like they did in England with the Bank of England Act.

They use the power this gives them to cause recessions and then buy controlling interests in industries they consider useful to them and their goals.

As for "turning the other cheek" as a religion, well, it might have worked in an all White society, but in a multi-racial society it means you are reduced to slavery. Ask the Copts in the Cairo slums.

Therefore, forgive your friends, do not be unkind to strangers, and annihilate your enemies.

In fact, most of the best parts of Christianity are actually our ancient Pagan rituals that were grafted on by the early Roman church to try and make it more accepted by the masses.

The Son of God (Sun) dying at the Winter solstice (Xmas), to the resurrection at Easter (conception of the Sun at Spring soltice, i.e. born again 9 months later at the start of the new year and so on...

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