Wednesday, 21 November 2012

A real Holocaust miracle

I got amazing news recently. Esther Lewandowski, a famous Holocaust survivor, has moved to a town nearby.  Now was my chance to finally put to rest all my doubts and misgivings.  On seeing her I was immediately impressed by her vitality. A woman who surely must be in her eighties by now was swinging an axe and splitting logs with a single blow.

'Good morning Mrs. Lewandowski' I called out cheerfully, 'can I have a brief chat with you about your experiences during the Holocaust?'

'Oy vey! oy vey!' she threw her hands in the air 'how can I speak of such things? The horror!  The horror!

'Well I was planning to write a book or make a film about you'

'Oh!  Why didn't you say so?  Come on in.  So, where to begin? I suppose it started with the Death March to Auschwitz from my home at Bialystok.'

'Actually that's something I always wanted to understand. Why did they drive you on a Death March to Auschwitz, with all the cost and effort, if they were going to kill you anyway? I mean wouldn't it have been easier to.......'

'How the hell do I know?' she glared at me  'I was just a girl of ten' .

'Anyway, when we got to the Death Camp we were taken straight to the gas chamber.  They stuffed us in, one after the other. But then a Miracle occurred....I fell out and escaped!'

'But what about the guard putting you in?'

'You've heard I presume Elie Wiesel's evidence how the blood spurted into the air as you walked in Auschwitz? Well, as the guard reached over to put me in a giant spurt of blood shot up into his eye, temporarily blinding him. That enabled me to escape. It was a Miracle, I tell you'

'You can say that again!  But how did you escape from the camp itself?'

'Another Miracle! You know that they used to fell giant trees, crushing the victims underneath?  Well, the wind changed that very second and the tree fell onto the guards instead. And then rolled over making a gap in the fence big enough for me to escape'

'My God!  It is indeed a Miracle.  A Miracle!  And tell me, how did you survive outside the camp...did the Poles help you?'

'Ach, the Poles!' she spat. 'Let me tell you, they are twice as bad as the Germans. No, They actually threw me to the wolves'

'Do you mean that literally or figuratively?'

'I tell you. There was this pack of wolves passing by, and the bastards threw me into the middle of them. A poor twelve year-old orphan'

'I thought you were only ten?' 

'Oy vey!  You grow up fast in these camps I tell you.  Then the final Miracle. The wolves, instead of eating me, took me into their pack and looked after me until the end of the war.  And now if you can excuse me I have a number of compensation claims to fill out'

I left her, humbled by the presence of someone who had suffered so much, who had endured.  I must tell her story. Now what's Steven Spielberg's number?

130 comments:

Anonymous said...

http://takimag.com/article/the_men_who_taste_jews_in_their_sandwiches_jim_goad/print#axzz2CcdHtnPh

Anonymous said...

When this original crop of "Holocaust" survivors passes along (they all must be getting pretty long in the tooth) what do you think will happen?

In another twenty years or so will we be reading about the survivors of the survivors of the "Holocaust"?

Roem said...

I do know one thing what will happen when the current crop of 'survivors' have shuffled off their mortal coils.. the Germans will still be shaken down for 'compensation'.

nastiestuncle said...

@Roem 19:40

"I do know one thing what will happen when the current crop of 'survivors' have shuffled off their mortal coils.. the Germans will still be shaken down for 'compensation'."

If you were murdered by the state and had all your property taken, would your children and grandchildren have any desire for compensation? Would they deserve any?

nastiestuncle said...

@Anonymous 18:39

"http://takimag.com/article/the_men_who_taste_jews_in_their_sandwiches_jim_goad/"

Some good questions there, most of which I have asked myself but have never got answers for.

Kenneth said...

Roem said...

I do know one thing what will happen when the current crop of 'survivors' have shuffled off their mortal coils.. the Germans will still be shaken down for 'compensation'.

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So true. See the following article (and thread) from MajorityRights a few years back. (The original seems to have disappeared from the web.)

http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/children_of_holocaust_survivors_file_class_action_suit_against_germany

Children of Holocaust survivors file class action suit against Germany

JERUSALEM: Raised on fear and depression, children of Holocaust survivors say the Nazi terror has crossed generations, and want the German government to pay for their psychiatric care.

On Monday, Israelis who call themselves second generation survivors are filing a class action suit in a Tel Aviv court against the German government to finance therapy.

Thousands of people from Holocaust families are incapable of working, live with an irrational fear of starvation and suffer incapacitating bouts of depression, said Baruch Mazor, the director of the Fisher Fund which is filing the suit.

Mazor said 4 to 5 percent of the 400,000 children of survivors in Israel require treatment. Since many cannot hold steady jobs, they cannot pay for their own treatment, and aid from the Israeli government and health insurance has been inadequate, he said.

The suit seeks to set up a German-financed fund to pay for biweekly therapy sessions for 15,000 to 20,000 people, or about US$10 million (€7.3 million) annually for three years.

About 4,000 people have joined the suit, Mazor said.

It was unclear what standing the Israeli court would have in a damages case against a foreign country.

Mazor said the Tel Aviv suit was a first step aimed at winning recognition that Germany should bear responsibility for the suffering of survivors’ children. Armed with that ruling, the plaintiffs would try to negotiate a settlement, or would take their case to a German or an international court, he said.

Since the 1950s, Germany has paid more than US$60 billion (€44 billion) in reparations to concentration camp survivors, families of the some of the 6 million Jewish victims, and to the state of Israel. Much of that money went to the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, a New York-based organization that negotiates with Germany and distributes the payments.

Mazor said money handled by the Claims Conference is earmarked for survivors, and their children did not want to detract from those funds.

Instead, they wanted “recognition and responsibility of the German government” for their problems, he said.

The German Foreign Ministry declined comment.

nastiestuncle said...

@Anonymous 19:11

"When this original crop of "Holocaust" survivors passes along (they all must be getting pretty long in the tooth) what do you think will happen?

In another twenty years or so will we be reading about the survivors of the survivors of the "Holocaust"?"

I wonder what the time limit is on forgetting what has happened to ancestors, or for hating those who have killed them?

I know some Poles who hate the Russians for raping their grandmothers during the 'liberation' of Eastern Europe.

I know an Estonian who hates the Russians for shipping off half of his family to their deaths in Siberian labour camps 70 years ago.

I know a bunch of Irish who hate the British for having invaded their country hundreds of years ago.

I know an Indian who hates the Pakistanis for what they did to his ancestors 70 years ago.

I am still hearing grief from the survivors of the survivors of all of these crimes, so I suppose we will carry on hearing about the survivors of the survivors of the Holocaust for years to come.
If we forget about these things, they become more likely to happen again.

I think the Jews though have acted with remarkable restraint. Germany has no nukes; Israel has plenty. I've met some Jews on the intarw3bs over the years who hate Europeans for what they did back in the 40s. One of them said he would nuke all of Europe if he had the chance. I wonder if his hatred is justifiable. I suppose if he visited the Jew hating blogs then his views would be reinforced. Why would he love the people who hate him?

brian boru said...

Mr Spielberg will be reluctant to share the profits with you.

NorthWestEuropean said...

Off-topic, but funny.

http://www.africafornorway.no/

Who says Africa can't?

Uncle Nasty said...

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" ... and I, alone, lived to tell the tale."

You want to have a real laugh? Please go here:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvgtqC42gvI&feature=watch_response_rev

One Third of the Holocaust.

UN
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johan said...

Nastiest Uncle, you ask Roem If you were murdered by the state and had all your property taken, would your children and grandchildren have any desire for compensation? Would they deserve any?

May I respond on his behalf: no, not if you've already claimed for the same piece of property 10 times already, as also have multiple members of your family.

What about MILLIONS of German families who were driven out of historical German territories after WW2, who lost everything and were never receiving a pfennig compensation? Yet who have to contribute multiple times for some many imaginary claim from jewish racketeers?

Loveliest Aunty said...

Slightly amusing, Savant, though probably not up to your usual standard.

You haven't been brow-beaten into some kind of timid conformity by the Jew-haters, have you?

On a serious note, reading elsewhere I came across this nugget of probable truth: Holocaust deniers of more than a couple of years (the utterly committed,I guess) have either one of two positions regarding the issue: (a)they hate Jews; (b)they love Hitler (or, of course, both).

I have an open mind on the Holocaust. I UTTERLY reject persecution of those who revise or deny it but, all said and done, I'm not sure if I know anyone who ticks one of the two boxes above who is not also a denier of major Jewish death and suffering during WW2. Or, as well, seriously thinks Uncle Adolf was some kind of messianic figure.

As for NU, does he wear a Yamulka? Does he have an unnatural interest in other men's bottoms?

I know not, but simply yelling at him about what a yiddish poof he is, is hardly decent rebuttal (no pun intended).

nemesis said...

NU, now I know you've really lost it. The jews showed remarkable restraint towards Germany

Whaaaat??????

They've been ripping off the unfortunate Germans for hundreds of billions since they started the scam, and are still looking for new ways. Now the 'survivor's' children (and their children's children?) in Israel are getting in on the act.

Even the jewish organisations themselves who administer the scam acknowledge that vast sums have been fraudulently claimed.

I can see why you blow the minds of so many commentators here.

Uberdude said...

A famous famous architect was described a while back in the organ of media rectitude the "Irish Times" as a holocaust survivor, whilst mentioning passim that he was born in 1953.
Jeeezuz, are the Germans ever going to call a halt to this lunacy?

Kenneth said...

nastiestuncle said...

I know some Poles who hate the Russians for raping their grandmothers during the 'liberation' of Eastern Europe.

I know an Estonian who hates the Russians for shipping off half of his family to their deaths in Siberian labour camps 70 years ago.

I know a bunch of Irish who hate the British for having invaded their country hundreds of years ago.

...

I think the Jews though have acted with remarkable restraint. Germany has no nukes; Israel has plenty. I've met some Jews on the intarw3bs over the years who hate Europeans for what they did back in the 40s. One of them said he would nuke all of Europe if he had the chance. I wonder if his hatred is justifiable. I suppose if he visited the Jew hating blogs then his views would be reinforced. Why would he love the people who hate him?

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So nastiestuncle's jew acquaintances hold all of Europe responsible for the (supposed) actions of one European country's short-lived regime, and one of them wants to see all of Europe nuked.

Do we ever hear Poles or Estonians or Irishmen saying they'd nuke all of Europe if they could on account of what happened to their ancestors?

Note how nastiestuncle's main concern is whether or not jews are justified in hating us (and by implication what we Europeans can do to earn the love of God's Chosen People), not whether or not we Europeans are justified in being wary of jews - you know, like those jews who'd like to see our whole continent nuked.

I normally just scroll past NU the jew-firster's blatant nonsense, but this priceless little gem really caught my eye.

Kenneth said...

PS - I did not mean to imply I believed those ridiculous fairy tales about the "extermination plan", the "6 million" and the "gas chambers".

And for anyone who still has doubts, I recommend Jurgen Graf's "Holocaust or Hoax".

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/hoh/index.html

vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres2/JGhoax.pdf

Also recommended: Thomas Dalton's Debating the Holocaust and Arthur Butz's Hoax of the Twentieth Century

vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres3/HoaxV2.pdf

nastiestuncle said...

@johan 21:50

"Nastiest Uncle, you ask Roem If you were murdered by the state and had all your property taken, would your children and grandchildren have any desire for compensation? Would they deserve any?

May I respond on his behalf: no, not if you've already claimed for the same piece of property 10 times already, as also have multiple members of your family."

Ten times already? The total economic damage done to Jews as a result of Nazi policies was about $330 billion max at 2005 exchange rates, although only about $60 billion had been settled. That doesn't sound like the money has been claimed 10 times already.

"What about MILLIONS of German families who were driven out of historical German territories after WW2, who lost everything and were never receiving a pfennig compensation?"

Just imagine: if the Germans hadn't allowed a one bollocked, obviously mad dictator to take power and lead them to ruin then they wouldn't have had to leave their land. I hope they wrote it in their diaries: 8th May 1945 - WANT TO KEEP HOUSE AND PROPERTY SO MUST REMEMBER IN FUTURE NOT TO ALLOW MAD DICTATOR TO TAKE POWER.

"Yet who have to contribute multiple times for some many imaginary claim from jewish racketeers?"

Imaginary claims because....... the Holocaust never happened?

nastiestuncle said...

@nemesis 22:03

"They've been ripping off the unfortunate Germans for hundreds of billions since they started the scam, and are still looking for new ways. Now the 'survivor's' children (and their children's children?) in Israel are getting in on the act."

The compensation given by Germany to Jews has not yet met the level of economic damage done to Jews by the actions of the Nazis.

"Even the jewish organisations themselves who administer the scam acknowledge that vast sums have been fraudulently claimed."

I have no idea if that is true but I will believe it. Of course there are going to be fraudulent claims. That's why there must be a proper process of investigating each claim.

What I meant by Israel showing restraint is that they have not visited on the Germans what the Germans laid upon the Jews. When someone draws a picture of Muhammad, Muslims the world over burn embassies and kill dozens of people. When someone steals the property of nine million Jews and kills six million of them, the Jews do not fall back on violence to settle their grievance. I call that restraint. If someone had shot, gassed, starved and mistreated six million of my fellow Brits, I'm not sure I would be able to hold my temper.

"I can see why you blow the minds of so many commentators here."

Good. Keep on thinking. You'll get there eventually.

nastiestuncle said...

@johan 21:50

Further to my reply, my $60 billion figure is incorrect. It is more than this, at more than $100 billion, but less than the damage caused by the Nazi actions.

Anonymous said...

Kenneth - a very good point. About nuking all of Europe......

kulak said...

@UN

What I found particularly interesting in the video was the tag team of the English prosecutor and the Soviet prosecutor.

So the UK state was a co-conspirator in the fraud.

nastiestuncle said...

@Kenneth 22:15

"So nastiestuncle's jew acquaintances"

Well no, because these were just two Jews I was arguing with, one at LittleGreenFootballs.com and one at My Pet Jawa.

"hold all of Europe responsible for the (supposed) actions of one European country's short-lived regime, and one of them wants to see all of Europe nuked."

Well no, because if I were to expand on the arguments I had with these Jews, their anger came from all of the expulsions and persecutions over the centuries, with the Holocaust being the icing on the cake.

"Do we ever hear Poles or Estonians or Irishmen saying they'd nuke all of Europe if they could on account of what happened to their ancestors?"

Well no, because the Poles and Estonians were fucked only by the Russians, and the Irish were fucked only by the British, whereas the Jews were fucked by lots of different European peoples.

"Note how nastiestuncle's main concern is whether or not jews are justified in hating us"

Well no, because that's not my main concern; you pulled it out of your dead grandma's ass.

"(and by implication what we Europeans can do to earn the love of God's Chosen People)"

Well no, that's your implication.

"not whether or not we Europeans are justified in being wary of jews"

Well no, because that's an entirely different thread.

"you know, like those jews who'd like to see our whole continent nuked."

Well no, because they were only two out of several thousand Jews.

"I normally just scroll past NU the jew-firster's blatant nonsense, but this priceless little gem really caught my eye."

And caused you to write drivel. See me after class.

Roem said...

Please note that Savant's references to blood squirting up from the ground, trees being used to kill prisoners and escapees being fed by wolves have all been claimed by Holocaust 'survivors'. As has the lady who 'fell out of the oven'.

Anonymous said...

Neckiest Untermenschen you are with out doubt the shitest hasbrat the chosen ones who are so much smarter , switched on and chosen by god his fucking self we've ever come across . are you an AA hire?

Wolfhound said...

Funniest post yet Sav. It reminded me of something I saw recently about self proclaimed survivors of Dr. Mengele kvetching about their imaginary experiences.

"Oh the gorror! He would skin and lobotomise children and then have them juggle hot coals while riding a unicycle as a sick experiment. He would remove the brains of twins and then switch them around after making a mini lampshade of their scrotums oy vey oy vey!"

"How come you're talking to us now with absolutely no visible handicaps at the age of 86?"

"...I'm tired of talking about these horrible events, please hand the cheque to my accountant Shlomo"

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I implore all the regulars here to read through "Hellstorm" written by Thomas Goodrich although it comes with a warning not to read after a meal...truly disturbing and opposed to jew bitching, accurate accounts of the Soviets flooding through Eastern Europe and Germany.

Some exerpts here: http://chechar.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/the-death-of-nazi-germany/




Anonymous said...

Loveliest Auntie. Is Nastiest Uncle your brother?

I think we should be told.

Thor said...

I tried to read 'Hellstorm' but it was just too depressing.

To think that those animals then sat in judgement of the Germans at Nurenberg.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure we've all noticed how many posts Neckiest Untermenschen has made. Savant please send thic cunt to spamblinka. Just set up another post titled Neckiest Untermenschen and every time this sub-human cunt posts send it there. He'll get off on it "oi vey it is yet more persecution" and you get your blog back. Fuck the jew cunt in the eye. They're of limited value anyway. And their not human

Anonymous said...

and Neckiest if you're so committed to your cause lets meet up. Me and my "evil" Nazis versus you and your mossad pals. You fucking jew cunt

rob

Anonymous said...

I suspect nastiestuncle would have no problem whatsoever with all of Europe getting nuked, provided, of course, that Muslims, negroes and Indians were spared.

You let the cat out of the bag nastie: you hate White people.

You're an anti-White.

Uncle Nasty said...

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Check this out. Always interesting ... and always radical.

I like radical. Subtlety, in this day and age, simply does not do it.

http://chechar.wordpress.com/

An essay-review of Separation and its Discontents:
Toward an Evolutionary Theory of Anti-Semitism


by Cesar Tort

I’ve just read the second book of Professor Kevin MacDonald’s study on Jewry, and I must say that it is my favorite book of his trilogy, that I read within a timeframe of two-and-a-half years.

To me, the moral of Separation and its Discontents (hereafter SAID) is that the current decline of the West was caused because the white man did not replace, in due time, the collectivism of the Catholic Church — Christendom was basically immune to Jewish subversion — with another collectivist strategy, like the one in National Socialist Germany.

The reading of SAID made me discover that the critique of universalism and individualism predates the blogs that awakened me in the last few years. MacDonald wrote:

Western societies, unlike prototypical Jewish cultures, do not have a primitive concern with racial purity. Rather, concern about racial purity emerges only in the late stages of Jewish-gentile group conflict…

Despite a great deal of commonality among Western anti-Semitic movements [i.e., Christianity and NS], there was a great difference between the universalistic, assimilatory tendencies of traditional Western Christianity and the exclusivistic, racialist program of National Socialism. Indeed, we have seen that beginning in the 19th century an important aspect of German anti-Semitic ideology was a criticism of Western universalism and the development of peculiarly German conceptions of Christianity. A critical component of official National Socialist ideology, as represented in the thought of Alfred Rosenberg, was the idea that “the twin forces of disintegration, namely universalism and individualism, act in perpetual conflict with the Germanic concept of race.” In this regard, National Socialism was indeed profoundly anti-Western. In rejecting both universalism and individualism, National Socialism resembled, much more closely than did medieval Western collectivist Christianity, its mirror image rival, Judaism. [page 196]


Once again, please read. The poof will not attempt to attack it ... it's way over his pointy little head.

UN
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Anonymous said...

I think the commemoration of the Ukrainian famine-genocide is this Saturday.Lest we forget.

Uncle Nasty said...

A bit of grist for the mill, Savant.

From the link supplied by Kenneth ... (21 November 2012 22:27)

And for anyone who still has doubts, I recommend Jurgen Graf's "Holocaust or Hoax".

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/hoh/index.html


There are some wonderfully -- How shall I put it? Creative? Colourful? Bizarre? -- methods of offing the chosen:-

Potpourri of Nazi extermination methods

a) pneumatic hammers

b) electric baths

c) electrical assembly line killing

d) atomic bombs

e) burning alive

f) steam chambers

g) suffocation by pumping all the air out of the death chambers

h) quicklime trains

i) chambers with submer(s)ible, electrified flooring

j) blood poisoning

k) drowning

l) chlorine gas, assembly-line shootings, boiling water, acid

The location of the gas chambers

Phase I (from 1946: almost every camp had one or more gas chamber(s)

Phase II (from August 1960): no gas chambers in the Old Reich

Phase III (from 1983): Return of the gas chambers in the West

The gas chambers existed; oh no, they didn't; oh yes, they did


One wonders at the calibre of mind that dreams this shit up.

Oh, yes. There was another favourite, supposedly used by Irma Grese ... unleashing killer dogs onto the noses to rip them to pieces. I think all this fanciful crap is a dead giveaway of the thinking of the tribe in general.

A race of perverts. They sound just like Quentin Tarantino on a good day ... or the old Frank Zappa album -- Weasels Ripped my Flesh.

Oh. Wait.

UN
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eah said...

A relatively recent lie.

The thing is, most Holocaust stories go unquestioned. In fact, in many countries in Europe you can get into trouble, and even be sent to jail, for 'denying the Holocaust', which is, of course, loosely defined. (In Germany, in your defense you are not even allowed to introduce evidence, no matter how scientifically sound, that some aspect of the Holocaust story could not be true -- see, that's what you're on trial for!) So Jews feel free to make up the most absurd nonsense.

nastiestuncle said...

Loveliest Aunty 21:55

I thought I told you to stay in the kitchen. If I have to tell you twice....

"On a serious note, reading elsewhere I came across this nugget of probable truth: Holocaust deniers of more than a couple of years (the utterly committed,I guess) have either one of two positions regarding the issue: (a)they hate Jews; (b)they love Hitler (or, of course, both)."

I have come to the same conclusion. It is like a religion for them, and this explains why they believe the blatant lies as well. The addiction needs to be fed, and a lie is as good as anything; it all feels the same to them.

"I UTTERLY reject persecution of those who revise or deny it but"

I think that outside of Germany, it should be allowed. It's a shame to jail people for being idiots. I support the German laws though, because the reason why the deniers deny is that they want it to happen again, and if Germany ever allowed another Hitler to come to power, it should be flattened right away. We paid too high a price last time by doing nothing until it was too late.

"As for NU, does he wear a Yamulka?"

Not even for fun.

"Does he have an unnatural interest in other men's bottoms?"

Haha. No.

"I know not, but simply yelling at him about what a yiddish poof he is, is hardly decent rebuttal (no pun intended)."

Like all religious people, these national socialists get angry when their beliefs are challenged. It's all part of the process of the cure.

__________________

And in this thread, it is demonstrated that it is perfectly alright to hate Jews, but woe betide anyone who might suggest that any Jew might have anything approaching a legitimate grievance against the Europeans. The national socialists need to feel that whites are the eternal victim. Blacks feels the same way regarding slavery and The Man, Muslims feel the same way about the Muhammad cartoons. The cult of victimhood. Some Jews are the same about the Holocaust, but on the other hand they have faced Genocide but through an almighty effort have forced the world to respect them.

nastiestuncle said...

Anonymous 02:42

"I suspect nastiestuncle would have no problem whatsoever with all of Europe getting nuked, provided, of course, that Muslims, negroes and Indians were spared."

I've met people from Mozambique with higher IQs than you.

"You let the cat out of the bag nastie: you hate White people.

You're an anti-White."

Nope. It's you national socialists who are anti-white.
First, you try and wipe out the Slavs (white people), then you make the anti-immigration movement sound so crazy that no-one will touch it with a bargepole, damning us to perpetual invasion by Muslims and homies.
Tell me, why do you hate whites so much?

nastiestuncle said...

@Anonymous 23:37

"Neckiest Untermenschen you are with out doubt the shitest hasbrat the chosen ones who are so much smarter , switched on and chosen by god his fucking self we've ever come across . are you an AA hire?"

I didn't catch any of that except for the AA bit. And the answer is: no, sorry, I'm with the RAC.

nastiestuncle said...

@Anonymous 00:30

"I'm sure we've all noticed how many posts Neckiest Untermenschen has made. Savant please send thic cunt to spamblinka. Just set up another post titled Neckiest Untermenschen and every time this sub-human cunt posts send it there. He'll get off on it "oi vey it is yet more persecution" and you get your blog back. Fuck the jew cunt in the eye. They're of limited value anyway. And their not human"

Haha. That was pretty good. I shall cook bagels in your honour.

nastiestuncle said...

@rob 00:34

"and Neckiest if you're so committed to your cause lets meet up."

I didn't know Savant had opened an online gay dating section.
Sorry my man, but you're barking up the wrong tree. Try Hampstead Heath.

"Me and my "evil" Nazis versus you and your mossad pals."

Sounds kinky, but I don't know anyone in Mossad. But there are some fetish clubs which might be able to grant your wish.

"You fucking jew cunt"

Now, now. Keep the sex talk for the privacy of your own home.

kraken said...

I think the commemoration of the Ukrainian famine-genocide is this Saturday.Lest we forget

Anon, how could we forget? Is it not emblazoned all over every MSM outlet for the last few weeks?

(sarcasm off)

nastiestuncle said...

@Anonymous 03:32

"I think the commemoration of the Ukrainian famine-genocide is this Saturday.Lest we forget."

Are the Ukrainians allowed to have a genocide?
And was this the Holomodor or the one committed against the Ukrainian nationalists by the Nazi administration?

a swedish friend of this blog said...

Rob, I am by no means supportive of NU but in terms of banning comments your most recent is far more objectionable than anything he said and in fact drags down this blog to the gutter. Savant should in my opinion not have printed that. Such crude invective achieves nothing apart from providing you with some vicarious satisfaction. If you cannot refute the points he makes then just say nothing.

nastiestuncle said...

And further to my point:

"genocide committed against the Ukrainian nationalists by the Nazi administration"

So, if being a white nationalist is a good thing and being a national socialist is a good thing, then why did the national socialists destroy the Ukrainian white nationalists and why are they supported for doing so?

Is it because you lot are thick? Is it because you are so embedded in your national socialist religion that your minds do not function any more?

Oh, and since [at least some of] you guise are national socialists, do you also support the slaughter of Slavic people such as Poles, Ukrainians and Russians? What about Greeks, Spanish, Italians, Southern French, Bulgarians and Romanians, since all of these groups have some Turkish or Arab blood and are therefore less white than the European Jews?

Stop me if I am asking too many awkward questions.

PS. Is it true that Hitler's other ball is in the Albert Hall?

You guise are absolute poison to the people who want to rid the third world invaders from our lands. You are fools. All you do is hand free ammunition to the leftists who brand as all as racist Nazis, making us all toxic to the voting public. Lenin would be proud of all you useful idiots. You guise are poison to white people everywhere. So make like a tree..... and get out of here.

eah said...

@nastiestuncle

Didn't I suggest before that you not copy verbatim another person's entire comment in order to reply? Why do you insist on cluttering up the thread like that? It seems tough for you to stop being a jerk. But give it another try.

Also, while I won't bother to count, in scrolling down the page I would guess 40% of the comments here are by you. Don't you think that's excessive?

Olda said...

The genocide against the Ukrainian nationalists was not comitted by the Nazi administration. This was done earlier by the Bolsheviks.

Julian said...

@Swedish friend. I echo your sentiments. I have to smile when I see posters, by way of filthy vile language, complain that NU is dragging the standard of this blog down and demanding he be silenced.

Such irony.

katana said...

Savant wrote:
Ach, the Poles!' she spat. 'Let me tell you, they are twice as bad as the Germans. No, They actually threw me to the wolves'

'Do you mean that literally or figuratively?'

'I tell you. There was this pack of wolves passing by, and the bastards threw me into the middle of them. A poor twelve year-old orphan'

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"There was this pack of wolves passing by …" Bloody funny, Savant! Poetry in passing!

These kike hucksters really do need to be mocked.

For wavering 'Holocaust' believers seeking escape from jewish programming and wanting a gentle intro into the holohoax reality, I suggest this booklet:

Auschwitz: The Underground Guided Tour - What the Tour Guides Don't Tell You at Auschwitz-Birkenau

There you will learn about the camp hospitals, library, orchestra, soccer field, post office, theater groups, central sauna, inmates only brothel, and so on.

You see the fiendish Germans at their creative best as they entertain jews to death.

Anonymous said...


"@Anonymous 18:39

"http://takimag.com/article/the_men_who_taste_jews_in_their_sandwiches_jim_goad/"

Some good questions there, most of which I have asked myself but have never got answers for."



..I would say the poster being replied to is a set up.

It took all of 5 minutes for the reply to materialise and it's definitely a construct and not genuine blogging. Either that or you have an insane 24hr serial commenter on your hands.

Savant, I'd say your blog's coming under increasing scrutiny.


SAVANT said...

anon 14.17. I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Could you elaborate please?

Anonymous said...

I see that my fellow chutzpara Holo$$$x survivior has verbal diarrhea (as usual) ,we Holo$$$x survivors are prone to diarrhea. It is easy to understand once you add diamonds and kitchenware into equation. We Holo$$$x survivors, had our anal sphincters stretched beyond comprehension during WW2. Just imagine, swallowing and squeezing out a silver tea pot, followed by golden menora , 20 diamonds and Ann Frank’s diary, every bloody day of the Hoax. After the war I worked in a circus, my nickname was Herschel the Talmud Squeezer. During an average show I would gobble down 20 volumes of our holy book and pop it all out after around 666 seconds. I loved the job, I was in my element. But in 1948, evil Nazis gave me 6.000.000 deutsche marks and said: Mr. Herschel,from now on, the only thing you are allowed to squeeze out, is our money and your crap, danke schoen .So, I have been squeezing it since then. Shalom.

Manc said...

Unbelievable. I go away for 2 weeks and when I return I find this blog has turned in to a kosher circus with Nastiest Uncle as the ringmaster and his sockpuppets as the clowns.

Get a grip, Savant, FFS!

nastiestuncle said...

@Olda 13:10

"The genocide against the Ukrainian nationalists was not comitted by the Nazi administration. This was done earlier by the Bolsheviks."

There was the Holodomor (Russians did it) and a massacre of Ukrainian nationalists (Germans did it). The first occurred in 1932/3 and the next during the Nazi occupation of Ukraine.

nastiestuncle said...

@Anonymous 14:17

"It took all of 5 minutes for the reply to materialise"

Nope, it took one hour and eight minutes.

"and it's definitely a construct"

What's a construct?

" and not genuine blogging."

Genuine blogging? What's that?

"Either that or you have an insane 24hr serial commenter on your hands."

That's some crazy shit, nigger.

"Savant, I'd say your blog's coming under increasing scrutiny."

Increasing scrutiny from, ermmm, one dissenting voice.

Thanks for your time and please come back and contribute more.

nastiestuncle said...

@SAVANT 14:40

"anon 14.17. I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Could you elaborate please?"

He is talking about a c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-conspiracy.

nastiestuncle said...

@eah 12:13

"@nastiestuncle

Didn't I suggest before that you not copy verbatim another person's entire comment in order to reply? Why do you insist on cluttering up the thread like that? It seems tough for you to stop being a jerk. But give it another try.

Also, while I won't bother to count, in scrolling down the page I would guess 40% of the comments here are by you. Don't you think that's excessive?

22 November 2012 12:13

@nastiestuncle

Didn't I suggest before that you not copy verbatim another person's entire comment in order to reply? Why do you insist on cluttering up the thread like that? It seems tough for you to stop being a jerk. But give it another try.

Also, while I won't bother to count, in scrolling down the page I would guess 40% of the comments here are by you. Don't you think that's excessive?

22 November 2012 12:13

@nastiestuncle

Didn't I suggest before that you not copy verbatim another person's entire comment in order to reply? Why do you insist on cluttering up the thread like that? It seems tough for you to stop being a jerk. But give it another try.

Also, while I won't bother to count, in scrolling down the page I would guess 40% of the comments here are by you. Don't you think that's excessive?

22 November 2012 12:13"

My brother in Southern Nigerian Animism.

It's a free market of ideas. If you think that the proportion of posts which are mine is too much for your obsessive compulsiveness to handle, then you are free to post more yourself, thereby reducing the percentage which are mine. But try not to make them nit-picky ones though because it makes you look like a fish wife. You know the ones, always complaining about nothing and with piggy eyes and a mouth like a dog's arsehole.

Anonymous said...

O/T-Read an article in todays paper about how Chinese,African and East European gangs are taking over the criminal underworld in Ireland.Sav,you've been posting about the drawbacks of immigration for years,why are these so called journalists surprised?

The truth will out said...

I'd say anon is pointing out the insincerity of nastiest Hasbarat's commentary.

I'd prefer an openly jewish troll querying us honestly, only following this virulent sickness over the years and witnessing the efforts made to dominate and manipulate of the media for over 100 years causes me to believe there simply is no truth in them.

Anyway, here's one of the best HoloCartoon books from Iran, where it is legal to openly examine the facts of the claimed holocaust.
http://www.holocartoons.com/main.php


Downloadable pdf here,
http://www.holocartoons.com/PDF/English.pdf

the videos on the left hand sidebar are forever getting attacked and removed from having any online presence.
I shall link to working versions of them in an update later.

Dan said...

What the Hews were news doing in Europe? Were they forced there?
Useless paracites. The Germans were not thorough enough. So much for efficiency. The Rwandans did the job the right way. That's what an actually genocide actually would have looked like.

Anonymous said...

Savant,

I mean the first post and link seem to be answered minutes later by the same troll, or trolls and they are effectively answering their own posts, but, judging from some of these cretins' posts, I would say they're not officialy commissioned trolls.

I would say you should stop posting their comments, as they are clearly taking the piss.

Dan said...

Ultimately I don't think Jews are white. They can claim alterity in any situation. They can pass as "Dutch" in Recife when dealing with Portuguese, as "Spanish" when setting up trade stations in London, as "German" when in Russia and as "Russians" when in America, when In the Southern US they pose as Yankees. It's an ethnic shell game. As soon as the local peasants figure out that they are being ripped off by the fast talking bullshitters panic sets in among these people. Then the fun starts.

Dan said...

There is a subcultural genre in Israeli literature "Death Camp Porn" 6ft Valkyries in leather jodhpurs whipping nebbish Jewboys. It's obvious what alot of the fictional holocaust stories are actually about: Perversions and fantasies about the beautiful people the Jews want to be around.

Kruger said...

anon 14.47, bloody hilarious. LOL!

Read it abouy a dozen times and laughed each time.

Anonymous said...

That aid for Norway video is really good and very professional.

Some nice looking african girls there too!

kulak said...

Jimmy Carter just said the most hilarious thing:

Extreme implementation of sharia law is very bad, but look at Egypt: their constitution says that the principles of sharia law should apply. That's something that we adopt in the United States as well: our money says "in God we trust".

Dan said...

Was her little sister made into a lampshade too?

Anonymous said...

How often have we heard holocaust survivors recite how they personally witnessed people being made into soap & lampshades even though both stories are just myths.

The one thing history shows us is that having alien peoples living within our borders is intolerable, The highly intelligent groups are by far the most dangerous because their high intelligence gains them positions of power & influence within our own institutions.

rebel said...

Jimmy Carter get more deluded by the day.

NastiestUncle said...

@Anonymous 18:38

"How often have we heard holocaust survivors recite how they personally witnessed people being made into soap & lampshades even though both stories are just myths."

I've never heard it, but I do know that soap was made from human tissue experimentally by the Nazis but was never put into mass production. You didn't know that, but then you get your information from pro-Nazi websites and from Youtube videos made by people with usernames such as truthseeker911.

As for the lampshades, that was an interesting one, as a lampshade does exist which was made of human skin and the frame was a design used in central Europe during the time the Nazis were in power. Proof that Nazis made at least one lampshade out of human skin? Nope. But then again, who else could have made it.

Uncle Nasty said...

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Dan said...

Was her little sister made into a lampshade too?

Probably a night-light. Nothing too strenuous. After all she was just a kid.

UN
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The truth will out said...

HoloToons
Episodes 1 - 20

Oy Vey! Ze Zufferinks!

Don't be confused about Israel, it's entire existence is a fabrication built on the back of slaughtering 100's millions of goyim across Europe over hundreds of years, then blaming us for the jewish fantasy porn known as holocaust, because of this Europe and all its colonies must die.
Cheers juwes!

Here's one of the better documentaries about formation of Is-Ra-El.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQhFC64fQUY

Loveliest Aunty said...

@Nastiestuncle

Sorry, but I don't accept your argument about the German laws regarding the Holocaust. Can a well-meaning individual (I'm sure there are some) challenge ANY aspect of the Holocaust narrative and expect to get a fair trial in modern-day Germany? I doubt it.

Furthermore, if we criminalize this one historical event, as terrible as it was, that is possibly the thin end of the wedge with regard to unscrupulous rulers and social elites the World over, as it pertains to other historical events (both recent or ancient). Who knows, in future we might be expected to have the "right" views with regard to the Crusades, African slavery, White colonialism ... you name it.

And who says it will stop with just historical world-views? What about social or other world-views? Such as global-warming for example. Someone might say, "that's just plain ridiculous", but the sheer pace of social change in the West (and this is where we're concentrating on) has been breathtaking over the last couple of generations. Breathtakingly bad, for the most part, I'd say.

Criminalizing people for what they THINK (and therefore articulate) is unmistakeable fascism. Can't accept it, no matter what tripe people may come out with.

Furthermore, your comment with regard to the Jews having an axe to grind with European people, umm, no sorry, I don't go with that.

The Jews suffered terribly during WW2. However, they're not the only people to have suffered during that time, or before, or since.

No race or nation carries a special "victim" identity card, as far as I'm concerned.

@Anon 23:56

Is NU my brother? How foolish of you! How can "Loveliest" and "Nastiest" be in the same family! Really, some people just never think these things through ...

Dan said...

It is clearly a big porno fantasy. If you want to kill people you do it on the spot and use machetes or bullets. There is a Russian NKVD officer who personally killed thousands of Polish officers with a pistol in 1940. That's how it is done. Lots of bodied too.

Wolfhound said...

It's a complete myth that people will be "put off" by anything resembling National Socialism, just look at how the Golden Dawn Χρυσή Αυγή has made huge progress in the past year or two.

They wear their runic symbols with pride and use similar tactics to the Nazi's. I'm talking food distribution to the poor natives, breaking up unlicensed market stalls run by illegals and patrolling the worst areas of the cities to protect locals from mugging etc.

Keep in mind, these guys are not just morons in doc martins and bomber jackets running around aimlessly. They're a more disciplined and organised group of footsoldiers, well groomed and respectful towards the locals, real respectable patriots anyone would be proud to have in their family.

When people are put off they need to get over their jew indoctrination or they have not yet reached a significant dip in their quality of life so they will not take any of this too seriously.

We should not cater to these people for fear of alienating them. When things get really bad they will be knocking on the door of the local Golden Dawn party for help & protection the government is unable or unwilling to offer, mark my words.

You will notice the likes of NU and his sock puppets will never offer any solutions despite kvetching about nazis, blacks and muslims ad nauseum. All they would like is a Geert Wilders type of soft politician who will NEVER EVER mention the kike behind the curtain because these "nationalist" parties are usually riddled with jews.

We're not children, if we are naive enough to believe all the issues we talk about will just resolve themselves when we politely ask all the parasites to go away and leave us alone we haven't been paying attention to the rapidly deteriorating situation in every White country on earth.

Anonymous said...

Fuck's sake, Savant!

This blog is just becoming a stupid, Neo-Nazi hatefest. No serious thinking, no solutions put forward...nothing but hysterical screeching.
For example, I've asked repeatedly about any ideas as to how to help our Boer brothers and sisters in SA when the kaffer shit goes down. I've never had ONE decent response.
This isn't helping! Whites, we need to get our own shit together - stop whining about Jews and others - and move forward positively and firmly into a bright future. Right now, too many of us are wallowing in a murky mire.

GET A GRIP!!!

JP

Heraclitus said...


When people are put off they need to get over their jew indoctrination

Well the problem here Wolfhound is that is easier said than done. Fact is, either through propaganda or whatever, people have been massively turned off by NS and its symbols. GD are certainly doing well but is this despite the symbolism or because of it?

Why risk progress for that? What can be gained by it?

Kevin R. said...

@Aunty. Good point about the potential spread of Thoughtcrime. In fact it applies somewhat in Turkey today in a reverse of THE Holocaust. I refer to the Armenian genocide, mention of which is enough to have one clapped in prison.

NastiestUncle said...

@Loveliest Aunty 01:10

"Sorry, but I don't accept your argument about the German laws regarding the Holocaust. Can a well-meaning individual (I'm sure there are some) challenge ANY aspect of the Holocaust narrative and expect to get a fair trial in modern-day Germany? I doubt it."

Well, the fact that aspects of the understanding of the facts about the Holocaust have changed over time show that questioning various falsely understood facts can be done by historians. I'm not sure how many of the historians concerned with the Holocaust have been German though. I don't know much about the German laws concerning Holocaust denial. What I do know is that national socialism must be stopped from rising again in Germany, so if denial becomes a crime then so be it. The deniers are not doing the denying for honourable reasons - it is because hating Jews is their religion and they want to see the Jews murdered again. In the UK for instance, we don't have a history of allowing one-bollocked, obviously mad dictators to gain power then deliberately start world wars, so free speech on the subject can and should be allowed.

"Furthermore, if we criminalize this one historical event, as terrible as it was, that is possibly the thin end of the wedge with regard to unscrupulous rulers and social elites the World over, as it pertains to other historical events (both recent or ancient)."

Yes, but it is the job of the citizenry to stop the government from doing such things. If we sit on our arses watching X-Factor rather than keeping the government in check then we have only ourselves to blame.

"Who knows, in future we might be expected to have the "right" views with regard to the Crusades, African slavery, White colonialism ... you name it."

Well there are already attempts at this as far as I can see, from the Left. Although I don't see a link between the creeping criminalisation of political correctness in the UK for instance and the criminalisation of Holocaust denial in Germany. they are not connected.

"And who says it will stop with just historical world-views? What about social or other world-views? Such as global-warming for example. Someone might say, "that's just plain ridiculous", but the sheer pace of social change in the West (and this is where we're concentrating on) has been breathtaking over the last couple of generations. Breathtakingly bad, for the most part, I'd say."

Yes, and we have ourselves to blame for this. But you have to separate Holocaust denial from the creeping criminalisation of free speech elsewhere because the two are not related. Holocaust denial is a special case because it is specific to Germany regarding their history. There is only one reason that people deny the facts of the Holocaust, and that is because they want it to happen again. Otherwise, once they were shown the error of their beliefs (such as Anne Frank's diary being written in ball point pen for instance) they would accept the true facts of the matter. But that's not what is happening because to Holocaust deniers it is a religion. They do not possess intellectual honesty, just like all other religiously-minded people.

NastiestUncle said...

"Criminalizing people for what they THINK (and therefore articulate) is unmistakeable fascism. Can't accept it, no matter what tripe people may come out with."

This isn't true. Thinking and saying are two different things. For example, I think that my ex-boss should be killed because he was a right old motherfucker and I am free to think this but if I was to walk into a public place and say that such and such should be killed then I would be arrested for incitement to murder.

"Furthermore, your comment with regard to the Jews having an axe to grind with European people, umm, no sorry, I don't go with that."

Some Jews have an axe to grind, due to pogroms and genocide which have wiped out their families. Are you telling me that you wouldn't mind if this had happened to your own people?

"The Jews suffered terribly during WW2. However, they're not the only people to have suffered during that time, or before, or since."

So this means that they cannot bear a grudge because they weren't the only ones to suffer? Nigga, please.

"No race or nation carries a special "victim" identity card, as far as I'm concerned."

Quite right, but this doesn't mean that people can't have justifiable grievances.

NastiestUncle said...

@Kevin R. 10:26
"@Aunty. Good point about the potential spread of Thoughtcrime. In fact it applies somewhat in Turkey today in a reverse of THE Holocaust. I refer to the Armenian genocide, mention of which is enough to have one clapped in prison."

Bear in mind though that Holocaust denial being a crime in Germany has nothing at all to do with criminalisation of speech elsewhere on unrelated topics, just as the laws against drinking alcohol in Dubai have nothing to do with tax law in Lichtenstein.

Anonymous said...

Does anybody here in Ireland have any experience of Democratic Right? If so please share your thoughts on this matter. Are they a bunch of muppets or the beginnings of something better?

The truth will out said...

Holocaust pornography by Snordelhans

In order to understand the footage used in the above video it comes from this A Time-Lapse Map of Every Nuclear Explosion Since 1945 - by Isao Hashimoto

Both very powerful videos, the Holocaust Pornography transcript can be found here:
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=19312

Educated Edsel said...

Pater and I in his library the other evening, the long shadows on the maze outside, the winter evening air as a tang of grand cru----he says to me, have we not even got the sense we were born with on this sodden island? We totally ignore three million Saffers as they come increasingly into peril with every day that passes---yet we fling the doors wide on behalf of planeloads of diseased Somalis whose sole business here is leeching our welfare system for all it is worth.
That which could lift the country to hitherto unheard of levels of prosperity is refused entry; that which will drag us to ruin is admitted without hindrance. Truly (said he) they whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.

Seonaid said...

The Daily Mail recently ran exposes on how the Frankfurt School front organisation 'Common Purpose' operates in Britain. But this leftist and corrosive group is also highly active in Ireland:

http://www.commonpurpose.org/find-us/ireland

Shatter and his gang will be in league with these politically correct, pro-immigration, nation wreckers and will be assisting them in their dirty work.

The cpexposed website has lists of 'graduates' ie CP members, in many different organisations from the police and probation to the big banks:

http://www.cpexposed.com/

People in Ireland need to be aware of this growing menace.

Anonymous said...

nastiest uncle, loveliest aunty, JP

A hasbara and his sockpuppets or three cheeks of the same jewish arse to misquote Gorgeous George.

Bandon Barry said...

They're in Cork and spreading their poison!
From that Common Purpose site:

"How did taking part in a Common Purpose course in Ireland inspire a psychologist to start a company that fosters mutual understanding between immigrant and local communities?


Dr. Alvina Grosu immigrated to Cork in Ireland from Moldova. A registered psychologist, she established Culturewise, a company that fosters mutual understanding between immigrant and local communities in Ireland. She helps to train the staff of companies such as the Bank of Ireland, making them more aware of how to work with people of different backgrounds.

"I started Culturewise as a direct result of my experience with Common Purpose. I remember one evening we were discussing diversity, and some of the other participants were asking me about the foibles they'd noticed in people of different backgrounds. I found myself explaining it all to them! Some of the other participants were interested in using my knowledge for their own businesses and immediately I spotted the opportunity......."

Are all these "Irish" CP'ers Jewish?
Grosu? Operman?

katana said...

JP wrote:
23 November 2012 04:16

Fuck's sake, Savant!

This blog is just becoming a stupid, Neo-Nazi hatefest. No serious thinking, no solutions put forward...nothing but hysterical screeching.
For example, I've asked repeatedly about any ideas as to how to help our Boer brothers and sisters in SA when the kaffer shit goes down. I've never had ONE decent response.
This isn't helping! Whites, we need to get our own shit together - stop whining about Jews and others - and move forward positively and firmly into a bright future. Right now, too many of us are wallowing in a murky mire.

GET A GRIP!!!
--------------------------

This blog is just suffering from a reaction to trolls.

Our Boer brothers and other Whites in SA are suffering from the consequences of brainwashed choices they and non SA Whites made years ago as they went along with the jewish rainbow nation idea and opened the way for SA to enter into its guaranteed destruction at the hands of blacks.

Whites worldwide are also suffering from a similar effect, although delayed.

'Whining about jews and others', is certainly not the final answer, but it is part of the process to finding real answers. Eventually we need to go way beyond merely whining about them.

Given that the overwhelming number of Whites are totally clueless about the jewish vampire octopus in the background orchestrating our destruction, at this point in time a huge priority is the education of Whites of such facts through blogs such as this.

This is an ongoing process that involves a lot of 'whining' about our true enemies.
Our true enemies, the zionists, the jews, want us to focus on their prepared enemies, namely the blacks and muslims.

hasbara watch said...

I've seen it all now! At 10.55 we have Nastiest Uncle 'disagreeing' with his new sockpuppet, Loveliest Aunty.
And, of course, it's on the subject of his favourite propaganda topic: 'holocaust deniers'.

Priceless!!

Loveliest Aunty said...

Nastiest Uncle 10:55

"The deniers are not doing the denying for honourable reasons - it is because hating Jews is their religion and they want to see the Jews murdered again."

I specifically referred to ANY aspect of the Holocaust, not it's complete denial. However, I would certainly allow denial. Anyone trying to defend himself in a reasonably competent yet free court, be it in Germany or elsewhere, is going to land on his arse trying that defense (of complete Holocaust denial).

Though I've drifted away from Holocaust revisionism in recent times, the primary reason for drifting towards it a couple of years ago was because of the very criminilisation of Holocaust denial/revisionism in the first place (and not just in Germany, of course). The truth stands as it's own robust defense - it doesn't require the criminilisation of thought or free speech.

"Although I don't see a link between the creeping criminalisation of political correctness in the UK for instance and the criminalisation of Holocaust denial in Germany. they are not connected."

I don't agree. Both involve a curtailment of free speech and a degree of newspeak or thought crime. If ONE historical event is made taboo in many countries to speak freely one's mind on, as specifically befits the Holocaust, why stop with that one event? Hence I say again that criminalising Holocaust denial/revisionism is a very real potential slippery slope. I cannot ever endorse it.

My comment: "Criminalizing people for what they THINK (and therefore articulate) is unmistakeable fascism. Can't accept it, no matter what tripe people may come out with."

Your reply: "This isn't true. Thinking and saying are two different things. For example, I think that my ex-boss should be killed because he was a right old motherfucker and I am free to think this but if I was to walk into a public place and say that such and such should be killed then I would be arrested for incitement to murder."

Indeed, but I wasn't referring to every smutty or hateful thought every individual occasionally has. I took it as read that readers would understand I referred to the thoughts that people articulate to others, reflecting their own world-views, where there was reasonable or complete freedom to do so. In which case, thinking and saying are EXACTLY the same thing. If 10 people were randomly picked with some knowledge of WW2, for example, and asked their opinion on the Japanese getting nuked at the end of the war, you'll likely get very divergent views. These opinions will be consistent with what these same individuals think on the matter, so long as they are free to speak without fear of censure.

More later ...

NastiestUncle said...

@Seonaid 13:22

"The Daily Mail recently ran exposes on how the Frankfurt School front organisation 'Common Purpose' operates in Britain."

The media is run by Jews so it is impossible for the Daily Mail to have run a story exposing a Jew-run organisation.

Anonymous said...

Katana,

Whites need to ACT peacefully NOW while we are in the majority in white countries like America, Canada and Europe, or we will be forced into violence as a minority with our backs to the wall later. I certainly don't want to see the latter. My gripe on here is that there are no ideas as to the former.
A browning, Third World America is not inevitable - nor is China as the Number One Superpower. In my lifetime, many thought that the USSR was unstoppable, also that the EU/euro would eclipse the USA/dollar. Before WW1, many like Cecil Rhodes belived in the inevitable world conquest by the Anglo-Saxon race.
We CAN reverse the toxic legacy of the Sixties. Let's use our brains and ACT PEACEFULLY NOW.

JP

Iron Felix said...

..sorry nastiest uncle; loveliest auntie has won this one hands down. I personally would stand with whatshisname, Joe Voltaire here. You know, I loathe your opinion but I would defend to the death your right to ventilate same, or words to that effect.....

Roem said...

JP, you ask for solutions to the symptoms but not the cause. There is little possible help for our South African brothers other than supporting mass immigration to alnds of their ancestors, jus sanguinis or something like that.

But that's where the issue of YKW comes in. They'll be pulling the strings behind the curtain to ensure no such thing will happen.

Anonymous said...

Savant,

Check out this cracking review of the "Lincoln" propaganda movie:

http://www.amren.com/features/2012/11/spielbergs-lincoln/

Clogheen said...

@Bandon Barry "I immediately I spotted the opportunity......."

I bet she did. Extracting cash from Irish campanies and taxpayers as we try to get over thr PROBLEMS of diversity, not the so-called opportunities.

Our friend Rotimi up in Portlaoise, the ex-train driver from London, is in on the same racket. A 'diversity consultant'.

Anonymous said...

I hope Lincoin does as well at the box office as Amastad.

Anonymous said...

Savant, have you seen this cartoon?

Two minutes of evil indoctrination aimed at Irish youth - who, judging from the cartoon, are already majority non-white.

There is even a sob story about an Indo/Pak kid who may have to leave Ireland (oh, the horror) because his father is undocumented!

NastiestUncle said...

@Iron Felix 20:29
"I personally would stand with whatshisname, Joe Voltaire here. You know, I loathe your opinion but I would defend to the death your right to ventilate same, or words to that effect....."

Sweet. So if I were to incite some of our African ghetto brothas to come and rape and kill your whole family, would you defend my right to do so?

I think the answer is: no, you wouldn't. So, less of the naive Voltaire quotes.
Same with the Muslims: they stand at Speakers Corner and incite their genocidal intentions whilst we all stand by and let this enemy fifth column operate. I'd much rather stab each one of them to death. Everyone has limits on what they think others should say. Haven't you been reading the comments on this blog? Nearly everyone here would love to put a stop to what they see as Jews encouraging the race replacement of whites. Do you think for a moment that a national socialist government would allow Jews (or anyone else for that matter) to say what they like? Get rid of your double standard.

In Germany, the people who are saying that the Holocaust didn't happen are the ones who want it to happen again. This is why it is illegal. The German government understands this, and understands that destruction awaits them if ever they are to go down that path again. So, they nip the problem in the bud. If you read through the laws on this, it does not prevent discussion of the Holocaust; it stops the blatant neo-Nazis from spouting their crap.
Not to worry though, because with the internet here now any German can go online and deny the Holocaust to his heart's content without getting caught.

NastiestUncle said...

@hasbara watch 15:08

"I've seen it all now! At 10.55 we have Nastiest Uncle 'disagreeing' with his new sockpuppet, Loveliest Aunty.
And, of course, it's on the subject of his favourite propaganda topic: 'holocaust deniers'.

Priceless!!"

I don't use sockpuppets, but you carry on watching the hasbaras. It is important work.

:)

The truth will out said...

I recall Nastiest Infection once correcting me on my rude presumption by classifying the juwes blood ritual sacrifice as just that, he contested there is no such thing, it's called "Blood Libel", sort of giving the impression that it was merely a libelous claim in a primitive time of old.

Well thank God, I now stand corrected on the terminology of what juwes demand I classify their crimes as.

So no more talking about blood sacrifice or ritual murder.





Then this story came my way.
"BLOOD PASSOVER

At the dawn of civilization, the blood rite, in which human blood is drunk from the body of a still-living victim, was known to many tribes. However, only one people, that has never progressed beyond the Stone Age, has continued to practice the blood rite and ritual murder. This people are known to the world as Jews.
The author of this book is not Christian, Muslim or Hindu but a Jew and is the son of the Chief Rabbi of Rome, and a professor of Jewish Renaissance and Medieval History at Bar-Ilan University in Israel, just outside Tel Aviv.
The following translation was performed free of charge to protest an injustice: the destruction by the ADL of Ariel Toaff’s BLOOD PASSOVER on Jewish ritual murder.


Repeat: The author is the son of the Chief Rabbi of Rome, and a professor of Jewish Renaissance and Medieval History at Bar-Ilan University in Israel, just outside Tel Aviv.

Dr. Toaff is uniquely qualified to write this book, being thoroughly familiar with the derivative literature in English, French, German and Italian, as well as the original documentary sources in Latin, Medieval Italian, Hebrew and Yiddish. This is not something he worked on in secret. On the contrary, he worked on it openly with his university students and colleagues in Israel for several years; one of his students was even going to publish a paper on the subject. The author is extremely careful about what he says, and his conclusions must be taken seriously. It reads like a detective story.

If it had been published in Israel, in Hebrew, no one would have cared. There are large bodies of literature in Hebrew that Jews do not wish Gentiles to know about. But Dr. Toaff’s announcement of its publication in Italy, in Italian, raised a worldwide firestorm of fury. Under unbearable pressure, the book was withdrawn from publication, and is not to be re-issued.
You can strike a blow against censorship by circulating this text by e-mail or posting in on the Internet. No one can sue hundreds of people.

If the text is all over the Internet, and everybody has it and everybody knows what is in it, the cat will be out of the bag, and it will have to be published – sooner or later.

Come in out of the darkness, and strike a blow for the light."

Book Downloadable here:
http://www.israelshamir.net/BLOODPASSOVER.pdf

nastiestuncle said...

@Loveliest Aunty 15:43

"I specifically referred to ANY aspect of the Holocaust, not it's complete denial."

I had a look at the anti-denial laws and it is possible to question aspects of the Holocaust without being arrested. The laws are there to stop the neo-Nazi-type denial of the Holocaust, designed to insult people and to create a new and confident national socialist movement.

it'd be nice if total free speech was allowed, but in this one case I think that routing out the national socialists and jailing them is, and has been shown to be, the right thing to do. The penalty of allowing them to rise again is the total destruction of Germany.

"However, I would certainly allow denial. Anyone trying to defend himself in a reasonably competent yet free court, be it in Germany or elsewhere, is going to land on his arse trying that defense (of complete Holocaust denial)."

They do not care if they land on their arse because whatever the other person says is wrong because, as I've already pointed out, these deniers treat their beliefs like a religious person treats their beliefs. Have you not been looking at the comments on this blog? There are people here who believe that Anne Frank's diary was written in biro and the Protocols are real. No amount of exposure to the facts will change their mind, because for them it is a religion.

"The truth stands as it's own robust defense"

How naive. You seem to think that once a person is exposed to a fact they then have the intellectual honesty to adopt it. If that were true then there would be no religion, no communism, because everyone would just accept the facts. Over 90% of the world's population is religious. That tells us that people who place high value on facts is less than 10% of people everywhere. People are just not honest with themselves. For most people, feelings come first.

"- it doesn't require the criminilisation of thought or free speech."

In 99.9999% of cases you are right, and if everyone was honest and decent then the number would be 100%, but in just this one case, it's worth jailing a few nutters to stop national socialism rising again and destroying an entire continent. It's a shame, and I would like anyone to be able to say anything, but reality always trumps the feelgood factor.

"I don't agree. Both involve a curtailment of free speech and a degree of newspeak or thought crime."

Yes, but they are not connected. The German government is not criminalising denial because it wants control of citizens (that's what political correctness is for); it does it because it does not want to be destroyed again. Holocaust denial in Germany and thought policing in Timbuktu are not connected.

nastiestuncle said...

"If ONE historical event is made taboo in many countries to speak freely one's mind on, as specifically befits the Holocaust, why stop with that one event?"

Because denying the other events will not ultimately risk destroying an entire continent again.

"Hence I say again that criminalising Holocaust denial/revisionism is a very real potential slippery slope. I cannot ever endorse it."

Tell you what then. Let's let the national socialists say what they want, gain followers and rise again. Once Europe has been destroyed again, come back and tell me if you think jailing a few nutcases was worth it.

"Indeed, but I wasn't referring to every smutty or hateful thought every individual occasionally has. I took it as read that readers would understand I referred to the thoughts that people articulate to others, reflecting their own world-views, where there was reasonable or complete freedom to do so. In which case, thinking and saying are EXACTLY the same thing. If 10 people were randomly picked with some knowledge of WW2, for example, and asked their opinion on the Japanese getting nuked at the end of the war, you'll likely get very divergent views. These opinions will be consistent with what these same individuals think on the matter, so long as they are free to speak without fear of censure."

Yes, the difference is that people who have different opinions on the nuking of Japan do not hold these opinions because they want to create a movement to nuke Japan again.

Anonymous said...

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The unnamed couple told the Daily Telegraph social workers had accused them of belonging to a "racist party". UKIP said it was an appalling decision.
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Anonymous said...

@anon 22.26

I presume this vile piece of shit was issued by the Dept.of Education.

I will ask my grandchildren today if they have been shown it.

mr.a

nastiestuncle said...

Come on Savant, let's have an article about the story mentioned by Paris Claims.

Here's the best link for it: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9700001/Foster-parents-stigmatised-and-slandered-for-being-members-of-Ukip.html

SAVANT said...

@onon. Yes, I have seen that before. As Mr.s a. says it's vile. The mind programming is so blatant that you'd wonder how it could work. But then we remember that it's impressionable children are the target.

To my mind it has Common Purpose written all over it.

Cassius said...

Nastiest, you disappoint me.

Tell me, do you really believe that, should questioning of the Holocaust be premitted by law, Europe would then be engulfed in a reprise of WW2?

Reassure me, tell me you were joking.

Anonymous said...

More and more British people are getiing wound up by political correctness and the latest incident to wind them up is the news that UKIP members in Rotherham have been banned by the left-wing/moslem run council from fostering children, on the grounds that UKIP are a "racist" party:

http://tinyurl.com/cudvktm

Even commenters on the popular, right-of-center/libertarian Guido Fawkes blog have had enough of the increasing power of the thought police:

http://order-order.com/2012/11/24/saturday-seven-up-159/#comment-1498621

katana said...

Cassius said...
24 November 2012 10:14

Nastiest, you disappoint me.

Tell me, do you really believe that, should questioning of the Holocaust be premitted by law, Europe would then be engulfed in a reprise of WW2?

Reassure me, tell me you were joking.
-------------------

If 'Holocaust' questioning was allowed in Europe and especially in Germany then you could see this kind of chain reaction play out:

* Germans and Europeans wake up and realize the whole thing is a gigantic hoax that only jews are capable of.

* A massive soul searching throughout the West as to what are the other crimes, hoaxes and lies that jews have foisted upon us through their stranglehold over the jmedia.

* A massive disgust and loathing for jews leading to Western abandonment of the jewish crimeland called Israel.

* The jewish crimelords launching a suicidal nuclear attack on the West.

nastiestuncle said...

@Cassius 10:14

"Nastiest, you disappoint me.

Tell me, do you really believe that, should questioning of the Holocaust be premitted by law, Europe would then be engulfed in a reprise of WW2?

Reassure me, tell me you were joking."

I didn't say I was opposed to questioning; I said I was opposed to denial. Questioning from an honest person is good because it can lead to a greater understanding of the facts. From looking at the German laws, discussing the Holocaust is not a crime.
It's when people begin to deny it that there is a problem. The reason people deny the Holocaust is because they have at least some amount of national socialist sympathies, and if a national socialist movement doesn't get nipped in the bud then there is a chance that they may take power again, and that is something which could well result in the destruction of Europe as it did the last time.

The rise of national socialism was the worst thing ever to happen to Germany. Hitler was their worst ever statesman. They would have to be nuts to allow even a chance of that happening again.

Would you be willing to trade the potential future of Europe and its people for the right of some idiots to try and kickstart national socialism by denying the fact of the Holocaust?

Roem said...

Nastiest Uncle. I've gone through your 'rebuttals' of Auntie. Every single reponse you made is incorrect.

That's quite an achievement. Well done!

nastiestuncle said...

@Roem 11:08

"Nastiest Uncle. I've gone through your 'rebuttals' of Auntie. Every single reponse you made is incorrect.

That's quite an achievement. Well done!"

Well if you say so. Well done!

Maybe you could tell me why. And whilst you are at it, you can enlighten us as to why Germany has not had a Nazi government for the last 70 years and how this may have been achieved by banning Nazi groups and holocaust denial.

Iron Felix said...

N.U.; incite away. When de brothas come a calling I will take the necessary steps. You see, I would be against censorship as I think if a case is to be made then a case should be heard, and if capable of refutation and rebuttal it should be so refuted and rebutted.You advocate censorship---of things you do not like, as do all such advocates---so why don't you say so?

Anonymous said...

Regular posters have cottoned on to the hasbara calling himself 'Nastiest Uncle' and have stopped interacting with him, so the hasbara creates sockpuppets to debate with.

It's a familiar scenario and it's spoiling this blog.

Barnsley lad said...

Rother council in Yorkshire, who have branded the UKIP party as racist is full of Common Purpose members. Pretty soon this sort of thing will be happening in Ireland because they are getting a foothold there too.

Anonymous said...

In another twenty years or so will we be reading about the survivors of the survivors of the "Holocaust"?

Wasn't Mila Kunis voted sexiest Holocaust Survivor Survivor recently?

Anonymous said...

I think the Jews though have acted with remarkable restraint.

When you think that there were 15 million before the war and 6 million were killed leaving 15 million traumatized survivors.

Oh vey! The sufferink!

katana said...

Anonymous said...
JP
23 November 2012 19:50

Katana,

>Whites need to ACT peacefully NOW while we are in the majority in white countries like America, Canada and Europe, or we will be forced into violence as a minority with our backs to the wall later. I certainly don't want to see the latter. My gripe on here is that there are no ideas as to the former.

The sum total of acting peacefully in our current system is to enact real change is through the ballot box. That means changing the opinions of the vast majority of White's. It means going against the jmedia stranglehold.

What percentage of Whites do you think are aware of the jewish menace to our society? I'd say it is some percentage of one percent. Not enough.

>A browning, Third World America is not inevitable - nor is China as the Number One Superpower. In my lifetime, many thought that the USSR was unstoppable, also that the EU/euro would eclipse the USA/dollar. Before WW1, many like Cecil Rhodes belived in the inevitable world conquest by the Anglo-Saxon race.

>We CAN reverse the toxic legacy of the Sixties. Let's use our brains and ACT PEACEFULLY NOW.

Acting peacefully to enact change is something that we can all do now. And I think that acting consists of educating ones family and friends of what is really going on and the central role of jews in all this. We need a core of well informed Whites established, that can educate others.

We need to get to the root causes of our problems, the string pullers behind the curtain. Treating symptoms like third worked invasions, etc, is necessary, but the cause needs to be rooted out. And we have a very good idea who they are.

Our biggest weapon we have to achieve freedom is information and education. This blog is part of that.

Magnificent Randolph said...

...trying to pick up the essentials of nastiest uncles postings, it crossed my mind that his entire "take" on the most damaging war in history---I mean from 1900 or even earlier, through to 1945 and the consequent fallout with which and in which we have all been living---may in itself be seriously skewed, persuading him into the position he now holds and promulgates. Could be, d'you think...?

Anonymous said...

The deniers are not doing the denying for honourable reasons - it is because hating Jews is their religion and they want to see the Jews murdered again.

15 million minus 6 million equals 15 million.

Loveliest Aunty said...

@Nastiestuncle

Cassius has asked the question I was gonna ask you. Do you seriously believe that NOT criminalizing denial of the Holocaust in Germany (and banning Swastikas, Nazi salutes etc.) will result in rewind back to 1933 - then press play?

Hitler and NS were products of the Germany that existed back then. The Germany of today is very, very different. NS could only succeed back then because of Germany's humiliation after WW1 and the financial upheavals of the 20's and 30's. And without the shortarse with the scraggy mustache, it's highly unlikely to have succeeded anyway.

I said: "The truth stands as it's own robust defense"

You said: "How naive. You seem to think that once a person is exposed to a fact they then have the intellectual honesty to adopt it."

Except, of course, I didn't say that. But OK, maybe that statement WAS a little naive. However, Holocaust revisionism/denial is outlawed in many countries, not just Germany of course, and I suspect a great many people have been drawn towards holocaust skepticism by the very laws that do not allow you to question it in the first place. That's certainly true in my case though, as mentioned, I've gravitated away from it again.

The point is, is that these restrictive laws have probably been counterproductive to what they initially set out to achieve.

Moving on to your views about Jewish attitudes towards Europeans. You seem to suggest that Jews have a RIGHT to have a grievance against Europeans (that is, modern Europe of 2012).

Well, of course, loads of people the world over have historical grievances, so there's not much point in losing sleep over it.

My issue with the Jews and their grievances is that they, being the wealthiest ethnic group in the USA, and probably Europe (no, I'm not referring to the Rothschilds), have a victim-propaganda industry second to none.

When you factor in Hollywood, US TV dramas, sitcoms etc., the ADL, AIPAC, SPLC, the ACLU and much more besides, who else has got that kinda propaganda muscle besides the Jews? (Not all organizations listed above are completely Jewish, of course, but those that are not have a very high Jewish membership or are dominated by Jews).

Most people are not avid students of history, and therefore tend to get their "victim" info from either the mass media, or other people they know.

Therefore, I would suggest that the Jews have an enormously skewed vision of their own history (they're ALWAYS painted as being victims and never villains - such a pristine one-sided picture is not true of any people on this planet, let's get real).

Of course they were victims during WW2 (for the most part), but that doesn't necessarily extrapolate to all the rest of their history, either before or since. So whilst I do believe the Holocaust happened (though not sure about all the details), it seems to me that this terrible historical event has been used to portray Jews as only ever innocent victims, throughout their history.

Not only do the Jews believe this but most of the Western world as well.

Lastly, to all those who think I'm actually NU himself, please let me disabuse you of this notion. In fact, let me come clean and reveal my true identity.

Remember that woman in the video that Savant posted a couple of weeks ago, "THEY ARE KEELING MY ASS BAND", yes, that one? Well that's me.

Now that you all know my true identity, I'm sure you'll all agree that I truly am the loveliest aunty in all the World (or at least in Ireland)!

Occidental said...

katana, I find it inconceivable that we can reverse the racial debasement of western societies. Slow it or maybe, at a stretch even stop it. But I cannot see how you can reverse it. Not unless we all pull out of the UN and the EU.

Iron Felix said...

I think Loveliest Auntie has perhaps touched on a side issue as regards the Holocaust (I speak as one who has stood within a gas chamber and stared straight up at an oversized seeming shower nozzle) which is this; the unending and relentless indictment of my beloved Germany has incidentally exculpated all the rest of us. Everywhere the Nazis went they found the local population pouring out in overwhelming numbers, avid to enlist in order to "get" the Jews. The Einsatzgruppen, the extermination staffs, the denouncers, the round-up posses, all the rest of it, were very rarely Germans, but were actually everything from Swedes to Latvians, Lithuanians, Belorussians, Ukrainians, Slovaks, Croats, Bosniaks you name it.
What motivated so many diverse people so fiercely that they would gladly do this? Why is it characterised as a pure and exclusive uniquely German crime? I only ask because I wish to know---always keeping in mind that it takes two to tango.

Thor said...

Iron Felix. Don't forget also that the SS was more than 50% non-German by the end of the war.

I think we all have a fair idea of 'what motivated so many diverse peoples'.

Anonymous said...

Oh vey! If it weren't for Israel the children of victims would not get to express their culture

It is holocaust payback time biatche!

Iron Felix said...

Just to corroborate Thor there; my friend Celestine McGillacuddy (whom God preserve)has told me that the Waffen SS numbered 39 Divisions in its order of battle; that Divisions numbered up to no. 12 were absolutely first classs military formations; that there was a sharp falling off in quality as one goes further up through the numbers; that this was occasioned purely by the much lower quality of the inductees; this in turn was because so many were non-German. By the time one is looking at units numbered in the high '20's and nearly all the '30's they were not worth the time and materiel given them, capable only of foul little atrocities against their neighbouring villagers (see the several units raised in the Balkans....)....anyway; Thor is entirely correct.

Anonymous said...

Katana 19:50 says: "We need to get to the root causes of our problems, the string pullers behind the curtain. Treating symptoms like third worked invasions, etc, is necessary, but the cause needs to be rooted out."

An interview with a former KGB agent... fascinating information.

http://www.youtube.com/v/qlpODYhnPEo&hl=en_US&fs=1&

Uncle Nasty said...

.
Thanks, Annonny, for the links to Yuri Bezmenov:-

http://www.youtube.com/v/qlpODYhnPEo&hl=en_US&fs=1&

I watched the guy's videos years ago when the internet was copper wire and dinosaurs ruled the earth. The asonishing thing is that these vids were made in the early eighties -- nearly thirty years ago, ... and Mr Bezmenov's revelations are only revelating(?) now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Bezmenov

The Shittipedia entry for Bezmenov makes an unwitting revelation in itself ...

After studying political science at the University of Toronto for two years, Bezmenov was hired by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation in 1972, broadcasting to the Soviet Union as part of the CBC's International Service. In 1976, the KGB compelled his departure from that position, and Bezmenov began free-lance journalism.

A most interesting statement, especially when one considers the PTB in Canada to be a hotbed of radical left-wing activism under their innocent mantle of so-called Laissez-fair live-and-let-live, we-are-all-brothers bullshit.

Otherwise, how could the KGB (ferfuxache) compel the dismissal of a Canadian based commentator?

Don't believe me? Read the story of Arthur Topham.

UN
./i

Uncle Nasty said...

.
Why have I put this particular post in this particular thread?

Why do you think?

Please go here, and read about the countries -- Germany, China, etc., who are asking the Americans for their gold back, please ... and not getting it.

http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/

Also it would appear that the gold bullion bars that are adulterated by being hollowed out or drilled out and having tungsten plates and rods inserted into them -- some of them being up to 70% tungsten -- do not come from shady little hole-in-the-wall dealers in Hong Kong and Macao ... but from big, prominent shady dealers, like the US gubbamint.

GOLD FRAUD EXCLUSIVE: EU and Asian sources allege the tungsten-switch has gone sovereign

Fool’s Gold? Deutsche Bank, China, and US embroiled in faking suspicions


On and off for over five years now, I’ve been reporting on the existence or otherwise of (1) the gold the US Federal Treasury claims to have stored securely at various points across America and (2) a fix/manipulation scam on the price of gold per se. When I first raised these points (along with thousands of other sites) in late 2006, we were all of us consigned by the commentariat of the day to those Outer Limits reserved for The Loonies.

Since that time, we have seen the mysteriously dramatic rise in the level of Chinese gold reserves, the admission by several central banks that they’ve been buying and selling the stuff below the radar, and the scandals involving manipulation of the Libor and Eubor rates which, on their own, make the claims of gold jiggery-pokery look considerably more credible.

During 2009, I reported a couple of times about major gold investors known to me personally who were having trouble persuading Swiss storage facilities to cough up the shiny metal, once those gold-bugs decided they’d like to shift it to somewhere less remote than Cuckoo-clock land. Over the last few weeks, we have seen various sovereign States (led by Germany) saying they’d variously like to audit and/or shift their gold reserves nearer to home. The US Federal Reserve’s delay in obliging its clients with sight and shipping of said stocks has gone from being mildly amusing via odd to alarming.


Ooh, it's getting sticky, out there.

UN
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Croesus said...

UN, this gold thing has been knocking about for a while and I certainly did not give it a lot of credence initially. But a colleague in the EU (I have terrible friends) tells me that indeed something very fishy is going on. Says there's a lot of muttering in corridors and that the Germans are freaking out behind the scenes.

Anonymous said...

Fort Knox as MTV?