Friday, 13 July 2012

There 'must' be a new Swedish identity

By any yardstick Sweden has been the most advanced nation in the world over the last 100 years. Virtual elimination of poverty, cradle to grave welfare for all its citizens, one of the highest per capita incomes, among the world's lowest levels of crime and corruption, the development of a whole range of world-beating enterprises and iconic brands, major scientific, sports and arts accomplishments....all in a nation of eight million people. No wonder it  has consistently been near the top of the Human Development Index since its inception.

You'd imagine then that its citizens wouldn't exactly be clamouring for radical change.  But apparently it's urgently needed, according to Liberal Party MP Jasenko Selimovic.  It seems Sweden must 'forge a new national identity' to reflect the vibrant and diverse society it has now become. Now let's think of a really diverse and vibrant country as an example. What about Bosnia?  That's got a heady mix of ethnicities and religions. And they've been slaughtering one another for centuries, right up to the nineties which witnessed the Srebrenica massacre.  Only the presence of a large multi-national force prevents them from flying at one anothers' throats to this very day. Go through the list of Swedish accomplishments at the beginning. Bosnia is at the opposite end of each and every one of them.

Now, by happy coincidence, Mr. Selimovic is also from Bosnia, so it's fair to say he can speak with some authority on national identities. And not just Bosnia. Selimovic also refers to Somalis, Nigerians and Afghans who 'don't consider themselves Swedish' (imagine that!) and that they won't be 'successfully integrated' unless this new national identity is formed.  We are given to assume then that Sweden could do with becoming a bit more like Bosnia, leavened with further enrichment from Somalia, Afghanistan and Nigeria.

Fucking wonderful idea, Jasenko.  How did you ever come up with that?

The crazy thing though is that this is exactly what's going to happen. Doubtless Alan Shatter, Anetta Kahane and Barbara Lerner Specter will strongly approve.

83 comments:

slavestar said...

This is a nightmare. If those filthy Zionists would leave us just one crummy country unpolluted with that filth I'd be able to breath easier. This has gone too far. It has to stop.

Essex boy said...

I never fail to get blown away by the sheer arrogance of these fuckers. Who the fuck do they think they are, coming from a shithole like Bosnia and telling the Swedes how to run their society, a model for the world for as long as I can remember.

eah said...

cradle to grave welfare for all its citizens

I would not necessarily concede this marks Sweden as "advanced".

And given what's happened there demographically, I'd say Sweden has enough stupid people -- namely Swedes (real ones) -- already. So why the hell did they go and import this idiot?

Richard said...

I don't know what to say that hasn't been said a thousand times before. We all know this is madness - and who's behind it all. How much worse does it have to get before the ordinary man in the street says "enough is enough" and sheds his/her complacency?
My hopes are that the coming economic and social collapse will produce a leader and a political party we can all get behind (Sheep included). Golden Dawn?

johan said...

Sweden was advanced, if you consider that the society was so good for its own people. Obviously they fell into a path of destruction - you cannot have a welfare state and mass immigration. But dont take from their achievements.

dan said...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/13/1109443/-Re-thinking-Ireland-s-strategic-relationship-with-Britain

This is the natural order of things. Getting bed with the Germans was not a good idea. Hopefully this will be a trend. It's interesting to see this filter into a libtard forum.

Anonymous said...

Sweden is fucked. Malmo is the gang rape capital of the world. The mosquerats will bleed it dry.
One generation and it's game over.

Paris Claims

Anonymous said...

I take solace in the fact that people are people are people. What I mean by this is, those Swedes were once no-shit Vikings exploring the world and f*%$ing up anyone that got in their way, they are still the exact same people albeit slightly less lets-drink-wine-from-your-skull-ish. Why is it that we always say 'history repeats itself'? For this to happen, there has to be a constant, an unchanging factor, that factor is the human being. The blacks in Africa, if we must call them people, in 10000 years have not changed. I was recently reading about Haiti and its history, and those white-hating, voodoo chanting, children eating savages are the exact same as they were 200 years ago or 7000km away across the sea. Look at Otzi the iceman, a European about 6000 years old, wore shoes, clothes made from blended materials, had eaten food that was specially grown, had a copper axe and a hat - that ingenuity existed then and it does today in the same people too. As for the immorality, two words Sodom and Gomorrah.

This fad of destruction will last until people's lives are directly affected, and it is happening all the time, and then the soil will be stained red.

Corkonian said...

Dan, yes, great to see Ireland and Britain moving closer. Only problem being that Britain's various policies, apart from keeping out of the Euro, are even worse than Ireland's!

Uncle Nasty said...

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One thing about the internet .... as the lefties are discovering to their woe, is that removing information from it is like trying to unspread butter.

Covington has, very kindly, reprinted Breivik's closing speech. Copy and save while you can.

http://downwithjugears.blogspot.co.nz/

Here's the interesting bit ...

"Create an Ethnostate

In the compendium I described a solution that can prevent all future conflicts with ultra-nationalists.

The smartest thing that could be done is to give us autonomy, autonomy within a specific area of Norway for people who oppose mass immigration and multiculturalism. We are interested in having our own state within the state, reserved for the indigenous Norwegian people. In other words, national conservatives, orthodox Christians, and National Socialists. Such a solution would be good for both parties. Marxists and liberals would not have to experience our anger and complaining about the current state. And we would not have to live in a multi-ethnic hell. I have written about this political model and will convey the proposal later.

A solution like this can be used in all European countries, and can thus prevent further escalation of the conflict between cultural conservatives and multiculturalists.

The starting point might be that they get control over an area equivalent to about 1–2 percent of the country, and the area increases proportionally with growth. If we do not succeed and flourish, the autonomous state will not be developed. This political model is similar to political solutions relating to indigenous peoples in other parts of the world. Many ultra-nationalists and others would feel positive about developing such a solution ..."


Aaaah, but can you imagine how the lefties would feel. Sounds so reasonable, no? One or two, silly, little percent?

He's not a fool, this boy. He knows that that two percent would be forty percent within a year -- and civil war within two.
Believe me, the hebes know it, too. I don't know what possessed the PTB to allow an open trial for Breivik, but I think they are regretting it.

Bitterly.

UN
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Uncle Nasty said...

I would not be too quick to ascribe to the Daily fucking KOS any sane solutions.

A fragment from the above link from Dan:-

More recently, whilst Merkel et al were insisting that Irish taxpayers should refund in full those German and other Banks and speculative investors who had lent recklessly to private Irish banks and developers, the British Government was helpful and remarkably devoid of shadenfreude, providing relatively cheap loans and offering practical and moral support.

" ... practical and moral support", eh? In the form of even more cheap loans?

Britain in a transparent attempt to transfer some (if not the lion's share) of its toxic debt onto Ireland.

With allies like britain, who needs enemies?

UN

Neddie Seagoon, after being conned into drinking Loch Lomond dry: Stop, stop, no more water! I feel faint.

Gritpype Thynne: Faint? Faint? Here! Drink this glass of water!
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Thor said...

They allowed an open trial but reporting was strictly limited. It was not a fully open trial by any means. Still, much of the material gets out.

Anonymous said...

I posted on the wrong one, dangit!

We have to move to thenorthwest while we still can.

The US is just Israel now, with their laws and ways. They'll give us nothing willingly. Its still legal to move and live together.

for now

Uncle Nasty said...

http://tinyurl.com/792yt4d

Europe is in more danger than at any time since the 1930s. One nationalist demagogue could cause an earthquake

By Thomas Pascoe Economics Last updated: July 13th, 2012

592 Comments Comment on this article

Something like this could happen again

Ours is a complacent continent. Despite impending events that would have precipitated a revolution in almost any other place at almost any other time in history – either a collapse of the currency or the complete secession of budgetary control to a supra-natural body in the EU – we expect the fabric of European society to endure without major changes. I think we are wrong.

There is a presumption of perpetual peace in Europe which rests in turn on a presumption of the perpetuity of our existing capital structures. Once the latter are undermined, the former is called into question.

The great wars of the secular age have all been fought between ideologies which seek to restructure the relationship between capital and the people. As popular support grows for such plans, Western Europe is entering its most dangerous phase since the 1930s.

As in the early 1930s, the decision on the fate of financial order on the continent rests with debtor countries who admit no guilt for their debt. And, once again, faith is being placed in the treaty system to maintain order. To push the analogy further, I believe that the dominant form of political organisation over the next decade will be nationalism. We are one charismatic leader away from a complete re-ordering of the continent.


Oh, how ... how horrid!!

Oh, if only.

John W said...

To push the analogy further, I believe that the dominant form of political organisation over the next decade will be nationalism. We are one charismatic leader away from a complete re-ordering of the continent.

As you say, if only.

But we'd need a few Good Men, nationalist leaders if the whole Continent is to be saved.

tsnamm said...

"It seems Sweden must 'forge a new national identity'". What he fails to understand, and what all these cultural multi-cult Marxists fail to explain, is that most of these "immigrants" have no interest in becoming "Swedish" or "Americans" or "Irish" etc. What they want is to remain ethnically and culturally distinct, refusing to assimilate, while taking full financial advantage of the opportunities in advanced Western economies. If they have any self motivation they can become wealthy, and if they are the usual losers that the mother country has no need for ( ie 99% of them), then they enjoy the largesse of the taxpayer funded social welfare programs so generously donated by their hosts.Under either circumstance they are not immigrating for any love of the country they come to, its simply for the money. As they are all so "proud" of their heritage, they are usually dismissive of the culture of their host countries, if not outright treasonous. Good luck with the new Swedish "culture".

David said...

Nigger punches blind white woman on bus
http://youtu.be/4Uln9cwUFOs

Eamon Bejayzuz said...

Interesting that nationalism is seen by some as a vehicle for our salvation as a white race (which in its finest form, northwest Europeans, is the greatest the world has ever seen), as the Irish case seems instructive.Ireland as an independent nation is now increasingly seen to be the total failure it was always destined to be. There has never been and never will be any such thing as an Irish nation, in any sense worth talking about. Football supporters nationalism is about the height of its aspirations.A nation is something born into the world--see connection to natal, nativity--that an idea be developed and brought to fruition. As such, though the world is full of meaningless patches of real estate surrounded by customs posts, real nations are rare. Britain is/was one, her time now done, as was France; the USA is one, but treading a tightrope now; Classical Athens was possibly the greatest of all------a nation comes into existence FOR something. So what did Ireland stand for, ever? (There was, true, a larval stage fifteen centuries ago, but now, tellingly, derided).
Now, since Brenda's visit the tide has accelerated---Ireland will be back in the UK where it belongs in a generation or two at most, the whole dreary nightmare of lying to ourselves that we were anything special in the world now behind us finally.As all our policies here will now be precisely in line with those of Britain---secret treaty, Blair and the deplorable Bert---this will necessarily include having their immigration policies whether we like it or not. In a nutshell, Shatter will now have all the authority of Westminster behind him as he floods Ireland with diseased illiterate rapists from Somalia, the Congo..........yup, our future will be Swedish, folks.

an innocent abroad said...

tsnamm, I agree with one exception: non-Muslim black africans. They have no 'culture' of their own and are more than happy to 'integrate', which they see mainly as breeding with large numbers of white chicks and creating lots and lots of half-breeds, which the baby mommas and the State can then look after.

Anonymous said...

Eamonn may be correct in his assessment of the future but who wants to rejoin a Britain which is even more advanced down the road to self destruction than we are?.

There are Nations and then there are mere countries.Britain was once a Nation,France also.The USA was a Nation,despite the Civil War,until say 50 years ago.Germany briefly so in the 30s.


Most never achieved Nationhood.Ireland,Belgium,Italy Spain(though for a while yes after the Reconquista)

I don't know why this should be so;maybe its just a personal theory of mine.It has nothing to do with homogeneity.A Scotsman has or had,on the surface,less in common with a Hampshire man than a Milanese has with a Roman but both were intensely British.

A Norman less in common with someone from Provence than a modern day Saxon and a Swabian but both were wholly French.

War,immigration,the EU,many factors destroyed this Nationhood.

Its unlikely to be returning anytime soon.

mr.a

Anonymous said...

"Its still legal to move and live together. "

Beware, I live in Montana and I see more blacks every day...I think *social services* is giving them housing vouchers and sending them our way to spread the misery around...just in case we have any ideas about being a Whiteopia or anything.

Anonymous said...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2173138/Arturo-Martinez-I-forgive-man-raped-killed-daughter-10-wife-Las-Vegas-home-invasion.html

Can we make this a textbook example of Pathological Altruism.

rebel said...

If your seeing more of them in Montana right now then were in trouble. Would it be possible to freeze 'em out after the NW is established? My own guess is cut welfare to nothing and watch 'em flee.

Anonymous said...

Completly off topic! Mahmoud Ahmadinejad denies the holocaust. Is this man completly mad. He makes some spurious allegations in this video. I advise that you don't watch because what he says is insane and cannot possibly be true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKOMR2fMAw0&feature=related

Anonymous said...

re UK/Ireland

Having 80 odd seats in the parliament of the worlds largest empire was potentially a great position to be in so I probably would have opposed seperation at the time.

However given the insane spectacle the UK makes today I think it's turned out for the best. You just know the English pricks would have settled half of trashcanistan in Mayo by now if they could have. Tell you what, I'll favour rejoining the Union when HRH goes to Rome, asks forgiveness and converts. That would certainly solve the problems on this island.

The protestant nations will die out, due to the altruistic suicidal nature of their death cult. Only the Catholic Church has fought consistantly for the west against the so called protestant "enlightenment",ie liberalism, islam, communism and has sought to humanely limit jewish influence, and has been doing so literally for thousands of years.

Only Christ via the Church can save our people. Not the gay Jesus of evangelical America, but the Christ of the first Crusade, the Christ of Constantine. What did the voice tell him..."through This you will conquer!"

WR

F McCool said...

Yes, if we were part of the UK now we'd be flooded twice as bad as we are with cultural enrichers from all over the Empire.

Still, we're doing all we can to catch up.

Anonymous said...

Bravo for the Swedish skinheads the only bastion that is fighting against these niggers and ragheads and also the Swedish Democrats that are attempting to rid the country of this scoruge of Islam and the nasty nigger,

Anonymous said...

actually you dont see any niggers in Bosnia because these are very tough fighters and wont stand for any nigger monkey shines,i have often said that blowjob Clinton fought the wrong people as the Chetniks were our allies in WW11 ANDthe croats were busy turning downed American piolits over to the Gestopo

SAVANT said...

I've written a number of times about cultural enrichers in Eastern Europe. It's not so much that they're tough and xenophobic, it's more because of language difficulties and, much more important, they don't have the money to fork out on welfare for these parisites.

Anonymous said...

Europe, America and the Antipodes stood by while Rhodesia and South Africa were sanctioned - THEY sanctioned the destruction.

Now they're being shafted and won't do nothing about it.

The cattle who didn't give a shit about white Southern Africa or anyone else of their own race for that matter are slowly coming to terms with fate of the future for their offspring.

Hitler, Mussolini, Mosley, Joyce will be stoic in silence.

We have no LEADER of any credible worth and collectively we're nothing but gutless maggots.

People quote Breivik but do they really care? Who gives a shit about David Copeland languishing in a British prison somewhere?

NOBODY!!!!

Gem Junior said...

WR 17:40 I think your take is the only possible solution - for Protestantism to die and for a resurgence of devout Catholicism. I don't know if that can be though - I think about it a lot you know, but I also believe that to some extent the Catholic Church (via the Vatican) has been infiltrated, or shall we say rather "infected" by all this shite: multiculturalism, diversity-mongering, especially Jew-pandering. Even on a scarier level, satanic, kabbalistic power being more immediately appealing to some of the "Church Fathers" than eternal life - evident in the demise of the public trust in the wake of the numerous crimes against children (some weird satanic-type rituals or sacrifices?) Years ago at the end of Mass Catholics used to pray for the Jews that they would accept Christ - today such a thing would bring immediate apologies from the Pope himself. Our church no longer seems to have any balls. Sometimes when I hear about the "immense power of the Vatican," I want to laugh. And when I remember the images of Pope JPII kissing the Koran, I just can't help wondering what the hell is going on with the Vatican. But I know that like you have said that only Jesus Christ through his mystical Body, the Catholic Church, the one true church, can stand against the killers of western civilization. I don't know if you have read The Keys of This Blood, Windswept House, or any of the Malachi Martin novels. A Vatican insider, he certainly put things in a different perspective.

Gem Junior said...

Another thing - it's amazing how this all ties in with the Book of Apocolypse.

Clogheen said...

Gem Junior. Personally I think the Vatican and the Church it controls is the same as a multi-national corporation. It pursues its own interests and powers, protects it's own, and will jettison anyone and any thing if it becomes expedient.

You're backing the wrong horse here.

Anonymous said...

The Rothchilds control the finances of the catholic church.

In other words the jews control it behind the scenes. How unusual.

I'd *love* to go to a church in the US that isn't gay multiculti inclusive heart jews.

You guys suggest the denomination and ill go tomorrow and report back.

Anonymous said...

The Southern Baptist Convention.

Oh wait! They've got a groid as their hear now.

Bemused stare said...

Because you all need a good laugh now and then,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2170249/I-thought-innocent-protected---hard-lesson-Celebrity-photographer-kicked-Muslim-woman-tried-help-tells-pain-branded-racist.html

Creating a rod to beat yourself.

Anonymous said...

What exactly are these immigrants going to contribute to Sweden? Why should Sweden change to suit them?
These people 99% of the time contribute nothing but are very capable of taking the benefits of Europeans hard work and genius.
They have not earned the right to speak for change to Western countries as they skipped out of their own countries quick enough, why aren't they looking for change in their own nations.

john said...

anon 22:57 set your internet to www.sfaw.org
anon 17:40 the catholic government IS a huge part of the problem and on 'their' side. catholicism is NOT Christianity. Read the Bible and you will see not only the root of the problem and it's only solution.

Anonymous said...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2173679/Judge-let-Taliban-soldier-remain-Britain-allows-refugee-raped-girl-12-stay-UK.html

Liberalism is a mental disorder, have no doubt.
Paris Claims

Gem Junior said...

How do the Rothschild's control the Catholic Church? Doesn't the Vatican have it's own bank, and many treasures that are centuries old? I'm also curious about it being sort of like a multinational. Can't it still be confident in telling the Jews to kiss off it it was? And also, remember that no matter what has gone wrong, it isn't for US to judge as humans by running off like everyone else to join the latest "Christian" church like everyone else has done. The church is still the same one established by Christ (IMO). Anyone who doubts that is apostate, "he will send forth false christs, to lead the faithful astray" (even the very elect) or those who think they are too intelligent for the priest ridden old CC. Who decides? I know who I believe decides - and even with the warts and all, I haven't found anything better or more truthful, or more real.

beppo said...

@Anon 4:22

Nice reverse psychology - now see Youtube: President Reagan on the Holocaust.
Today a president who said this would be finished.

Anonymous said...

The Mail on Sunday has a spread about Gary,Indiana.The photographs are similar to those we are familiar with of Detroit.

The usual guff about Americas industrial decline is cited.

One comment squeezed through the censor and mentions the true reasons for the city's decline.In a roundabout way.Obliquely.

mr.a

Scouser said...

Surprised at Reagan. I thought he just read his lines.

LA DODGER FAN said...

You said it yourself gem jr, just didn't recognize it. Vatican...bank...multinational...both those words equal jewry, pretty much

The following year [1823], the Rothschilds took over all of the financial operations of the worldwide Catholic Church.
— Eustace Mullins; The Curse of Canaan
The Jewish Ency., Vol. 2, p.497statesIt is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time (1905) the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure."

any central bank other than cuba, n. korea, and maybe syria or a couple others we will invade soon, jews control it. If you control a nations central bank they all bow to you, including the leaders, obviously

http://www.rense.com/general77/POWERS.HTM

Anonymous said...

What exactly are these immigrants going to contribute to Sweden?

Filth,crime,disease,misery and poverty.

Paris Claims

katana said...

Becoming 'jew-wise' is turning history on its head. Up is down, down is up, Hitler is evil, Hitler is …

Becoming 'jew-wise', knowing that jews are doing their best to destroy us, is psychologically difficult to accept. For many it is impossible under present conditions. For those remaining it's a struggle, a series of 'cognitive dissonance' stages where you are in a conflicted state of mind caused by the difference between your 'old knowledge' of how the world worked versus your 'new knowledge' of how the world now works.

Becoming jew-wise is essential to understanding who is pulling the strings and causing the 'in our face' destructive effect, for example, the third world immigrant flood into White countries.

We are being deeply conned, deceived on an unbelievable scale. We are on the cliff face of handing over ourselves into slavery. Not only to a bunch of 'Oliver Twist' type Fagins, Shakespeare's Shylocks and every other type of jewish con artist, BUT to a very evil group of jews that have engineered the two World Wars, the 'Russian Revolution' and subsequent wars to this very day.

What's the answer?

One good, very mild, starting point I recommend is to read, as Uncle Nasty constantly suggests, the 'novels' by Harold Covington, starting with 'The Brigade'.

For some reviews:

http://thebritishresistance.co.uk/writers/the-editor27/1962-the-northwest-novels-of-harold-armstead-covington
http://www.counter-currents.com/2010/11/the-northwest-novels-of-h-a-covington/
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/03/harold-covingtons-northwest-quartet/
http://www.toqonline.com/blog/the-birth-of-a-nation/

Download The Brigade at:
http://archive.org/details/TheBrigade

Some form of 'Brigade' like movement needs to be established in all White countries across the globe, as 'insurance'.

SAVANT said...

katana, I'm a great admirer of your contributions. It seems to me that your progression from cognitive dissonance mirrors my own. I also see how incredibly hard it is to convince the average Joe to believe what's going on. What stunts they've pulled over the years and gotten away with.

Anonymous said...

WTF!! Religion of some sort is the answer!!! FFS we've seen how that's worked out over the last couple of thosand years. Now start spouting about it says in the bible this and it says in the bible that. By your own arguments it's all bollocks. God is perfect therefore God if He wrote a book it would be perfect. It wouldn't need interpreting, it wouldn't need holy men to explain the rights and wrongs. IT WOULD BE PERFECT!!! Now go on and explain how it was man who corrupted the Word. I refer you to my first argument. The mossies are the best at this. There are so many contradictions that there is more written to "clarify" things than is originally in the book. If God had spoken to Mo through Gabriel don't you think he would have mentioned that the "rules" were going to change later on and amendmants should then be made. No, the perfect God carries on regardless not mentioning what He had said previously.
The Bible fairs just as badly. Christians please explain :- MATTHEW 28:2 – 5 MARK 16:5 LUKE 24:4 JOHN 20:12
When you have an answer please refer to my first argument.

VOMan said...

This pisses me off as well. 'Read the Bible and you'll see all this has been foretold'.

Listen. You can take ANY interpretation you like from the Bible and retrofit it into what's happening today. And you can just as easily apply it to EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST 2000 YEARS!

It's like Nostradamus. If you want to prove he was right you can.

Spare us this BS please.

tsnamm said...

an innocent abroad said...

tsnamm, I agree with one exception: non-Muslim black africans. They have no 'culture' of their own and are more than happy to 'integrate', which they see mainly as breeding with large numbers of white chicks and creating lots and lots of half-breeds, which the baby mommas and the State can then look after.

I don't see that as integration...the Black Muslim IS a Black Muslim and is not interested in nor suddenly going to become a Westernized democratic pluralist. All mud people want to do is fuck white women, that's their fantasy, They don't do it to integrate, they do it to insult and prove how "powerful" they are. That there are such large numbers of idiot white women perfectly willing to copulate with these monkeys is another nasty issue in and of itself. Still, in the end the "cultural enrichers" are brought here to enrich "us" with their culture, not the other way around, We're supposed to "enrich" them with our money....

Anonymous said...

Actually I don't even believe in God. Listen up folks, conservatism, or whatever you want to call being pro europe and the west, has been utterly crushed. We've been devestatingly defeated over the last 100 years, driven from the field and routed.

We are now just a scattered rabble of individuals. If we are not to disappear forever we need a flag to rally upon. It's my view that the CC is that flag. Obviously it has lots of faults and has been infected somewhat, but please point out any other institution that can claim the loyalty of millions of white people? That at least in theory, still opposes fags, feminists, liberalism and has historically limited jewish influence.

God may or may not exist but I promise you there will be no victory without our believing He does. Those with faith will always triumph over those without. See how quickly the iranians dispatched the useful commie idiots in 79.

And if jews control the Catholic Church, well then I fucking surrender. There's a reason they hate the CC more than anything else in the world, or is it just another trick they've played on me?

WR

Bemused stare said...

If you wish to hold faith in some god on a personal basis, I have no problem with that. If you believe a religion of any kind is our salvation, we are truly doomed.

Our people did not achieve greatness from religion. They did so with brains and guts. Religion on the other hand for the most part, has served at best as a crutch for the weak and at worst as a cover for some of the most depraved beasts we have ever seen.

Stop and consider, how much have we achieved thanks to someone with a high IQ, a gun or a sword? As opposed to how much we have achieved thanks to a guy with a book.

Wolfhound said...

The reason they left their countries in the first place is because these places are shitholes, and this due to all the people exactly like them living there. I'm afraid huge numbers of white Europeans will be killed/maimed/raped and assaulted before they will finally resist the biggest lie ever told.

As for the Christian churches, they're all corrupted institutions, bankrolled by shylock and largely populated by empty yes men. It's a pity about the small number of genuine goodhearted priests and ministers.

What we need is a decentralised church grounded in reality, with no power structure to be usurped by jews. What's wrong with worshipping the sun and dedicating temples to it? We can all see it's real. It brings light, heat and LIFE to this planet. This will be your symbol to rally around and all you need is a simple set of commandments clearly outlined to maintain a healthy and self sustaining society. The criminal side of things will be covered by law, so all you need are common sense commandments such as: marriage is a union between a man and woman, have as many children as you can realistically feed, work for your bread, educate yourself and your family, take care of your elders, show common courtesy to others around you etc etc.


That's just one idea, we can also revert to the old Roman Gods, Druidism, Odinism or something along these lines. We simply need something to rally around as a people which transcends nationalism, patriotism, race realism or a combination of all the above.

You get my drift, move away from the current jew controlled institutions, all of them!

Gem Junior said...

VOMit and the anonymous douche before that, if it pisses you off, then maybe you should think about going and fucking yourself.

How about that interpretation? And how about this one? How about you go and drop dead while you're at it, you obnoxious cunt.

Comparing Nostradamus to the Bible shows what a Godless, bloody fuckhead you are, and I have no interest in "proving" anything. Because it's called FAITH.

The hatred and disgust for Christianity, the former religion of the western world, is what has caused people like you to believe that only addled idiots could take it seriously. So please, don't ask me to "spare you" and if it "pisses you off" tough shit. Go to Africa and worship a bird feather or albino negro, or go offer your breathless admiration and homage over in Tibet.

People like you are so fortunate you can run you mouths behind a screen. A hard slap in your face is what you need. Far from a stoning, or having your hand cut off, but just enough to remind you to have some respect for people who believe in the words of Jesus Christ and His apostles.

Gem Junior said...

LA Dodger Fan
Thank you for the name of that book I had no idea about the Rothschilds getting their talons on just about the last bastion of money that was off limits to these Joos, oy.

Bemused Stare: Amren has a funny article on that crazy British DWl. Poor bitch almost got put in prison and all she worries about is what her darky friends are maybe thinking about her, horrors!!!! You can't help laughing.

Martinus said...

Anon 15 July 2012 15:41, what exactly do you mean by your comment? If I understand it correctly, you are saying we are to throw off the 'yoke' of any form of religion and live atheistic/agnostic lives. If this is what you mean, allow me to rebut. First off, you greatly underestimate human nature, be that White, Black, Brown or yellow. Human beings have a deeply ingrained, programmed if you will, desire to believe in something greater than themselves. Out of all the races on Earth, no race hold this more true than us whites.

Every atheist/agnostic I have ever encountered, bar the few that lurk here, replace their religious beliefs with those provided so willingly by the state and by Hollywood. These are, mostly, people who take their morality from the laws of the land and from the cultural norm. I lived in the UK for a few years and a more ungodly, heathen place I have yet to have the misfortune of stumbling upon. Oh, and its done them a world of wonder by the way, their unbelief and disregard of Christianity. I know countless people there who see no problem with abortion, but god help you if you point out race because thats what the law says, so that is what informs their replaced belief system. These people see miscegenation, fornication, pornography and the whole assortment of sin most foul as perfectly acceptable and even praiseworthy, why? Because it is legal, therefore it must be right.

Anyone who advocates the throwing off of religion amongst whites, especially Christianity, should be treated with the utmost suspicion. Throw off one belief to have it replaced by another, seems to me thats exactly what the powers that be want, the same powers that advocate saying Happy Holidays, Merry Kwanzaa and Festive Ramadan, but Merry Christmas? F()cK no! People, especially whites, are so much easier to control when there is no powerful belief system in place, where they can be content with amassing their pathetic material possessions locked in the decadent embrace of consumerism.

There is no single more powerful, more unifying or more terrifying thing than a group united with a common cause flamed on by religion. Look at Northern Ireland. How many whites nowadays fight like the IRA did? Barbarity aside. To fight for a cause, you need far more than just a common skin colour or shared heritage. Remember that next time you denounce Christianity.

Porter said...

Regarding Savant and Katana’s discussion, I believe an effective sortie is to simply ask:

Are jews us?

Are they of our tribe or another?

And if the latter, might it be possible that their interests are not ours?

And if our interests do not coincide, do you believe they pursue ours or their own?

And might the pursuit of their interests within our societies prove detrimental to us?

And if they pursue policies detrimental to our people from positions of dominance in the media, government, and finance, might it ultimately result in dissolution of our societies?

These are a series of doors down a straight corridor. To open one leads directly to the next. So I always ask fence-straddling kosher cons…Are jews us?

Anonymous said...

I note a slight air of disgruntlement creeping in from religious adherents - what a surprise!

As Bemused Stare said "Our people did not achieve greatness from religion. They did so with brains and guts."

The belief in a creator God is a mental trap which prevents one from spiritual growth and is inherently anti Nature. Unfortunately, this meme is incredibly tenacious and has lasted for 2000 years so should not be underestimated. The decline in belief in post WW2 Europe has happened concurrently with the decline in morality and the Jew engineered general debasement of society.

The Catholic Church is indeed, seen as an obstacle to organised Jewry but your enemy's enemy is not always your friend.

Schaublin.

LA DODGER FAN said...

Gem Junior: The Jewish Encyclopedia is great because you get to use their own words against them :)

It's amazing how well attuned their noses are to money anywhere on the planet.

Outside of Dr? Kevin McDonald in Long Beach I've never heard of another academic breathing a word about the jew menace.

They should be teaching about them in grade school, not letting them teach!

Katana: beautifully well written. My experience encapsulated. Like you said, realizing the truth of Hitler...

euroserf said...

WR, you are of course, with respect, utterly wrong when you say the Church 'still opposes fags, feminists, liberalism and has historically limited jewish influence.'

What planet are you on? The polar opposite, my friend. These deviations are now fully supported by mainline Christianity.

Anonymous said...

Gem Junior. Thanks for the best laugh I've had in ages. If your such a good Christian. Turn the other cheek and forgive me. Surely any decent Christian would say that me and VOMan are more to be pitied than scolded. As for 'faith' in that fucked up book you believe in.....well fuck it. If I'm going to get "faith" which of the verses that I quote should I have "faith" in as thay all tell a different story. As for hiding behind a screen what do you want me to do? Publish my full name, address and phone number like you have?
I am for ever yours,
A. Cunt. (Charming turn of phrase from a Christian).
P.S. I'm sure Richard Dawkins will take up your thoroughly explained argument and indeed get "faith".
BTW if my "faith" is anywhere it is in Gnosticism. We Gnostics forgive you Christians for our near genocide. We forgive you for Mountsegur. We forgive you for not believing in the true Gospels. If you read the Gnostic Gospels true "faith" comes from within, not some fucked up book.

Anonymous said...

Hitler created the Third Reich without religion being at the centre. My God is an Austrian painter.

Anonymous said...

euroserf

I speak of the Catholic Church, which does officially oppose those diseases, it's the protestant denominations that have gone all in for abortion, sodomy, feminism and become a suicidal death cult.

bemused

Smarts didn't save Europe from islam. The Catholic Church did. Only the CC and faith in Christ could have united the feudal Lords to embark upon the crusade. Only the CC and faith in Christ could unite the fractious Italian and Spanish coalition that won the battle of Lepanto. Do you suppose the Poles would have saved Vienna in 1683 were it not for Catholicism?

I know it stings your pride to acknowledge it, but the only reason we aren't boy/goat raping allah lovers is the Catholic Church. Suggesting that we can worship apollo or some such is to insult and spit upon our European ancesters and shows a childishness that really staggers belief at this late stage in the game.

Grow up for Gods sake, the faith of civilisation depends upon it.

WR

Hector said...

Now Gem Junion (17.55), not being very 'Christian' here, are we??

'fucking yourself, you obnoxious cunt.'

Oh deary me!

Hector G. said...

'Because it's called FAITH.

You know how Woodie Allen defined faith (or FAITH, as you put it) - believing in something you know to be untrue.

SAVANT said...

Martinus, you make a number of interesting points. I wrote on this a few years back - before I became aware of jewish machinations!

http://irishsavant.blogspot.ie/2008/03/do-we-need-christianity-after-all.html

Anonymous said...

Gem J. was obviously out of class when they explained about turning the other cheek.

But she's fiesty and funny, and we need both.

LA DODGER FAN said...

This has been very enlightening. I hope I've learned a lesson about religious discussion in mixed white company being taboo!

One thing I think is interesting to note : everybody feels entitled and smug to dictate to Christians what their faith encompasses such as 'turn the other cheek', secure that they're correct and the believer wrong.

How much would athiests or jews or any other faith howl were a Christian to dictate to them their faiths tenets?

I read that somewhere and this thread reminded me.

Gem Junior said...

Anon 22:42, ok, I forgive you. I think we are told not to discuss religion, politics, and some other thing if we don't want to invite controversy. I am completely annoyed with anti-Catholic, anti-Bible, anti-Christian ANYTHING at this point, I don't know if it's because I live in the USA where it is poked fun at mercilessly, daily. I apologize to you all for using filthy language but sometimes she get's out.

SAVANT said...

Gem, I'm sure Mr. A. Cunt (what a stange name!!!) will forgive you your outburst.

As far as I'm conerned don't hold back baby! We all enjoy your rants.

And yes, even though I developed a loathing for 'Christianity' growing up in the suffocating fifties/sixties Ireland I very much fear that we may have thrown out the baby with the bathwater on that one.

Anonymous said...

@WR

the only reason we aren't boy/goat raping allah lovers is the Catholic Church.

Not so fast. Back then, Catholicism was almost synonymous with the white race.

Rather, Catholicism was the moral vehicle by which whites rallied.

What has it done for us lately?

Everything white people like about Christianity came from white people.

To the modern church(es), whites are disposable.

Anonymous said...

Gem. Apology accepted. The point I wanted to make is that zealots of any stripe are a problem. I don't have a problem with you having "faith". The problem is that as much as you think that your faith is correct so do the Moslems,Jews, Hindus et al. However, I do agree that Christian values are not a bad way to base a society. Believing that it is the word of God is something else. If the CC is under attack in the US of A then that is wrong. I might not have your faith but you have every right to believe in what ever God you want. THAT is where the Islamic community have a problem.

Gem Junior said...

Anon 12:13
One of the main reasons for having such deep Christian faith is the evidence that it has provided for the entire world. It's simple enough for me to see. Like this:

Western World=

Catholicism/Christianity=

Civilization=Peace/Plenty/Happiness/social order/functioning governments for all/most citizens regardless of ability to pay or bribe officials(not perfect, not everywhere, but to the greatest extent possible which has ever been recorded, even in transition to the "proposition nations" of USA, Australia, Canada for example.

None of the other religions have done so much for their people, unless I'm missing one. But is it really ignorant to wonder if the reason for those rewards is not simply that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit weren't pleased for the most part? That they were attempting to show the world - the believers in any gods - "Look at the wonderful way of life of these White people who worship Me. If you worship Me I will help you (via my children my Christian Missionaries, which have NO equivalent in ANY OTHER religion) to become such societies"? I dunno. I just do not know. But yes, Christianity in it's purest form, Catholicism (which traces it's origin right back to JC handing Peter the Keys IMO)works for me. It works so well for me - even though most of it is faith yes but also there is the humble personal logic I see like I've written above, it works so well for me that it literally hurts my heart when I hear people say things like "It's bullshit, it's garbage, it's stupid, there's no proof, religion causes wars," etc. I worry for those people since they have deliberately turned from God willfully and without trying to listen? Part of the problem is they can't see the reason for their faithlessness and it's called satan. The same fucker who whispers in people's ears "you don't really want to fall to their pathetic level, do you, listening to fairy tales, hmm, you are far more intelligent aren't you my boy, hmm?" The smartest thing the joos ever did was convince people through the controlled churches that the devil didn't exist. After Vatican II the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel was removed from the Mass -- why? The Fatima letter was discarded? Ignoring the will of heaven must really take such colossal pair of testicles, don't you agree? Anyway, I will try not to sound like a preacher but some of the people who throw around anti-Christian comments do try me when you and I both know they would never have the nerve to do it with Jews or Muslims, right? Yet they reflexively insult Christians 'cos they know that it will not only go unpunished, but even make them sound au courant! Ugh. Don't you even want to smack those types yourself? Admit it, LOL, you know it's true, we all do! So that's why I sound like a kook. I'm going to get a parrot, train it to say the most annoying, judgemental pieces of scripture - the ones people use to attack Christians, like Obummer did, and get me a pair of Church Lady glasses and a stained glass window and a TV show like Pastor What's His Name on youtube! Yes, that is what I will do it's my destiny.

Gem Junior said...

I remember now; on youtube it's Prayer Hour! So hilarious

Robert in Arabia said...

http://biglieonparade.blogspot.com/2012/07/ironic-twist-in-murderrape-of-swedish.html

Tuesday, July 17, 2012
Ironic Twist in Murder/Rape of Swedish Girl
This is an older story that completely slipped under my radar. Granted, my blog was not up at the time of this crime. But I don't even recall ever hearing about it! But it is an important story and a cautionary tale. Thus I am posting it today. A little over a year ago a music video called "Mix it Up" (which I did hear about and watch.) was shot in Sweden. The whole premise of the video was that whites should sleep with non - whites. It was pure Miscegenation propaganda. The video itself is a topic worthy of an entire post. One of the "Stars"of the video was a pretty little blond Swedish girl named Elin Krantz. At one point in the video, Krantz can be seen writhing on top of a black male in mock sex while singing what I believe to be the Swedish National Anthem. You can see it in the video beginning around the 1:02 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bHOEZo7VfN8

In a twist of sickening fate Elin Krantz was brutally raped, murdered and her body discarded like garbage by a black male who was riding the same train as her. I have seen the crime scene photos and they are sickening. I take zero pleasure in the fact that this poor girl departed this earth in one of the most horrible ways imaginable. But the irony here is not lost on me. If anything, Elin Krantz should be the poster child for the evil human sacrifice cult that is liberalism. A cult that is especially successful at brainwashing and sacrificing young white women to its God of Non - Discrimination.




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Gem Junior said...

Robert of Arabia:

I remember that filty, disgusting, negro-worshipping, anti-White piece of propaganda, Blend it Up, or Mix it up or whatever. Specifically the girl you are talking about Elin Krantz, first it just shows her face singing the Swedish national anthem, it's only when the camera pans out you see she is sitting on a black man's horrifying, humanity-destroying thing, and it was one of the most offensive things I have ever seen. It is such a vicious thing that is being done. I wonder will ANY Swedes (and I know they are thick, GOD KNOWS they are thick people) see this as the warning it is? I can hardly believe this, and I'm very sad for the family. I don't gloat but in a way I just can't help my cynicism whether it's a shake of the head or a sneer - I would never want a girl murdered but how could you let yourself be used for that? And the whole Swedish people are ruined, IMO they are finished. Their were never such a horde of effing lemmings, not even the Norwegians embrace this like the swedes and Lord knows how PC they are. How did you see the crime scene fotos? That's horrible that they'd be released - such an offense to this girls last shred? of dignity? Good God. Only JC can really mop up here 'cos there's nothing but evil.

kraken said...

Gem. In the unlikley event you want to see that disgusting piece of filth, which was shown on Swedish National TV you can see it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dCDMGu-xi30

Fiachra O' Blodbaoith said...

I have just viewed the pictures of the aftermath of Elin Krantz's death, including a picture of the perp---and STILL no sign of the berserker Sven The Skullsplitter when he is sore needed!!!!!

Fiachra O' Blodbaoith said...

Gem Junior, Google Elin Krantz, scroll down to fourth entry---but quick, before it's withdrawn.

Anonymous said...

You need to obtain the photo of the two English "fashionista" birds in full burqa whereas the less fashionable Iranian women were in hijabs.

(I presume they were birds as it is the fashion of wimmin to wear them as a swedish policewoman proved previously here.)

Anonymous said...

Just saw a P(as in urine)BS(As is in ..) program on the collected musing of various talkbot meatbags such as Selena Roberts (Oooh! Don't you wish you were a man hating lesbian so that you could get you well manicured hands on her for some hot lesbian action?) explaining that immigrants brought new players to baseball as they enriched the culture of their new country.

Anonymous said...

Guardian and BBCsucks

The Guardian described as a "Swedish newspaper" and anyone who knows Swedish newspapers knows what that means.

Cannot think why Alan "Spectre Agent" Shatter wants RTE multi-culted.

Anonymous said...

43% of olde Swedes voted for the Social Democrats 77% of new Swedes did.
You see why new Swedes are needed?