Sunday, 4 March 2012

Impeccable logic

I just had to reproduce this comment from Seanantijihad in the previous post. It brilliantly but simply illustrates the utter fatuousness and illogicality of judicial systems in the West.

Read and enjoy!

Judge: Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
Shaun: Are there any circumstances under Hate Crime laws whereby I would be convicted for telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Judge: Such as?

Shaun: Such as saying Islam is not a religion of peace, or, that Negro brains are smaller than Caucasian brains, which accounts for their lower mean IQ. So that a Caucasian woman who has a child with a Negro has in effect genetically lobotomised her offspring.

Judge: Yes, clearly, that is a Hate crime.

Shaun: But it is the truth.

Judge: The truth is no defence.

Shaun: It was not a defence, merely a statement of fact. I repeat, can I be convicted and imprisoned for telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Judge: Yes.

Shaun: Then I cannot receive a fair trial, and you are not impartial, for you have insisted upon threat of imprisonment that I convict myself as a condition of my own defence.

Judge: I am sentencing you to six months imprisonment for contempt of court.

Shaun: Is the court in contempt of the truth, or the truth in contempt of the court?


[Shaunantijihad is dragged away to be locked in a cage with Negroes and Muslim maniacs]

50 comments:

Anonymous said...

Prof. Andrew Fraser asked How can an Indian woman in Australia claim to be insulted and offended by an essay discussing a festering problem [in America]for which many thoughtful American Negroes hold their own people responsible?

No matter. She was offended and that's all that matters. He was out.

Krokodil said...

Yes, I give old Shaun's article a mega-thumb's up.

Very funny, but sadly all too true!

How shit has the West become?!

Very, very shit, sad to say!!

On reflection, even more sad than that - like trying to find the smooth parts of one's scrotum.

Both vexing and irrelevant - much like trying to argue against the holier-than-thou New World Order fascists.

Quite impossible!

Anonymous said...

This reminded me of Marxist sack of shit Steven Jay Gould's Mismeasure of Man where he debunked some Marxist unapproved fact and the way he did so was by fabricating his evidence.

Some guy is blasted over the Piltown Man hoax and the source of this?

One Steven Jay Gould who obtained his evidence by fabricating it.

Which leads us to the Fluke slut "attracting" the following comment.

The left NEVER deserves an apology. They are our sworn deadly enemies. Whenever they scream like weenies on the BBQ about something that has been said that offends them, we should just laugh at them. They are irredeemably evil, and as long as they control the terms of the “debate” we will always lose. They control this now as much as ever, and we are very, very close to the point of losing the God-given right of free speech.
I read the following from a reader that was posted on View from the Right:
“I have a story to tell that has some relevance to the adventures of Miss Sandra Fluke on Capitol Hill, but since it contains potentially identifying information, I would ask you to attribute it to “a reader.” I imagine that other readers may choose to write about her testimony and its ramifications.
In the late 1980s, I was appointed to be in charge of one of the first New York State comprehensive AIDS treatment centers. I had been taking care of HIV patients for about five years, and, given the shortage of providers in that field, I had accumulated quite a lot of experience.
After about two months on the job, I got a call from a prominent activist (who is even more prominent today). She asked me to travel to Washington at her expense to testify before the U.S. Senate Committee on Health at a hearing the next day.
I would meet famous personages, have lunch with a very prominent senator, and appear on television. This had some substantial potential advantages to my then-budding career, including a higher public profile, easier access to funding, and rubbing shoulders with the good and great.
All I had to do was tell the stories of a few patients who had lost their health insurance, been fired from their jobs, or been evicted from their apartments when their diagnosis was revealed.
The problem was, there were no such patients. I had cared for about 500 HIV patients at that point, and, contrary to what “everyone knew,” my patients had received only kindness and support from those around them (families included, with a few glaring exceptions).
I told her that I couldn’t go, for the above reason. “Oh, no worries,” she said. “We have a script.”
Up until that very second, I had held firmly to the “They are well-meaning but sometimes mistaken” view of the left. From that day forward, I have never believed a word spoken in a congressional hearing, at least not on matters political. It’s all a play, and the left has the script.”

Remember Treason Hitlar Cylon Nil and her arranging to raise money for those orphaned on September 11?

Does anyone remember the fact that there were absolutely zero of said orphans?

Anonymous said...

If any sacks of shit are reading this post you will clearly see that it is qualified with Marxist so no offense should be taken as none was meant.

Tony in VA said...

The other thing about apologies to the left - they never work!

They just come after your ass all the more. I can't understand why people can't realize this?

Gem Junior said...

Shaunantijihad: This is fantastic, really. Very much like Swift's Modest Proposal. Total satire, the total, utter, very BEST way of ridiculing something. I think you just brought down the entire western judicial system. This is so worthy of publication, Im serious. Where could you publish it? It should be memorized, like The Mantra.

Anonymous said...

Please allow me to point to this ... and let us see what will come of it.

http://www.kaldaya.net/2012/News/01/Jan07_E2_LawyerArrested.html

Lawyer Arrested for Anti-Catholic Court Filing

Minneapolis.Credit: Pepe Barbe, Flickr.com

Minneapolis, Minn.(EWTN News): A Minnesota attorney who made repeated anti-Catholic slurs in court filings and failed to show for a hearing on her statements faces arrest on orders from a federal judge.

On Jan. 4, U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Nancy Dreher held lawyer Naomi Isaacson in contempt of court for her absence, the Associated Press reported.

The attorney was already in contempt for her failure to turn over documents in a bankruptcy case involving a subsidy of the Dr. R.C. Samanta Roy Institute of Science and Technology, a religious group based in Shawano, Wis.

Judge Dreher said Isaacson will remain jailed until she produces the documents. She also ordered Isaacson and attorney Rebekah Nett to pay $5,000 in fines.

The two lawyers were ordered to appear on Jan. 4 to explain they should not be sanctioned for a November memo, which the judge called “replete with unsupported and outrageous allegations of bigotry, deceit, conspiracy and scandalous statements against this court.”

At several points, the memo referred to “Nancy Dreher, the Catholic Judge.” It also called her a “black-robed bigot” and “a Catholic Knight Witch Hunter.” The document labeled one trustee in the bankruptcy case a “Jesuitess” and another trustee a “priest’s boy.” The trustees were also accused of conspiring against the religious group, known as SIST, which ex-members describe as a cult.


Seriously ... how long do you think the judge will last?

On a different note, I recall reading that a female attorney in Germany defending a holocrap denier was arrested when she attempted to introduce the truth as evidence, and actually served or is still serving a sentence.

I just have to find details which will follow.

UN
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Anonymous said...

Oh, and just for interest's sake.

http://www.forward.com/articles/138473/

Allegations of Fake Holocaust Claims Just Keep Growing

By Paul Berger

Published June 08, 2011, issue of June 17, 2011.

New arrests, fresh guilty pleas and a growing number of witnesses co-operating with the FBI have bolstered an investigation into a multimillion dollar fraud at the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany.

Many in the Russian-speaking community were stunned when 17 of their members — six Claims Conference employees in a New York processing office and 11 accomplices — were arrested last November on charges relating to a fraud that siphoned an estimated $42.5 million from Holocaust funds. At the time, five of the accused pleaded guilty.

Since then, two more people have been arrested, four suspects have pleaded guilty and an undisclosed number of witnesses have provided information, helping the FBI and prosecutors build an even stronger case against the accused. Meanwhile, continuing investigations by the Claims Conference indicate that the amount stolen from Holocaust funds actually totals about $50 million.


I can see where they would get upset. After all you would not want the fake fake claims detracting from the real fake claims.

People might ask awkward questions.

UN
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Anonymous said...

Further to a previous post:

http://rense.com/general68/day2.htm

Day 2 Of The Ernst Zundel Holocaust Heresy Trial

By Markus Haverkamp
11-17-5
Regional Court Mannheim

Today's hearing was to commence at 10.00, by which time over a hundred supporters had gathered in the lobby of the building. There were quite a few new faces amongst the visitors, and again there were visitors from abroad. There were very few journalists indeed, and only a couple of cameras. The security regulations were far stricter today; neither cameras nor bags were allowed, which is not too unusual, but in addition, plastic bottles were not permitted either. Furthermore, there were at least twice as many police officials in the courtroom than last week.

The pubic was admitted into the courtroom at 10.40. The room was absolutely packed and twenty-odd people were unable to get seats and had to wait outside. Ernst Z√ľndel entered the room at 10.50, shortly before the judges and jurors, and was greeted with a warm applause.

The judge, having entered, started by warning the public that moaning and applause would not be tolerated and that he had given the police the order to keep an eye on the public and remove any disturbers from the courtroom as well as taking down their names.


... and referring to Sylvia Stolz:-
the short story:

http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=153

... the loooong story (below)

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=65490

Come the revolution, I see a heap of black-robed monsters swaying gently in the breeze.

UN
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cannibalrabbi said...

I agree with this goy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeA7OOBhlDk&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlkCzuSUHJo&feature=player_embedded

Shaunantijihad said...

Dear Savant,

I humbly acknowledge your ability to recognise limitless talent when you see it, hehe!

Thanks for the hat tip, but seriously, isn't this pretty much what happened to Emma West and her children for thoughtcrime?

Anonymous said...

I visit this site quite often ... if only to see what the neocons are saying.

http://www.theospark.net/

Check them out and count the comments, articles and links calling Obumbler a wimp, a wuss, a chickenshit, cos the spiteful little shitstain is not backing israel to the hilt.

The site is full of "Oooraw", "We'll show them ragheads" and "brave israeli allies and how we should lay down our lives for them"

There is a genuine reality disconnect happening in the US. The left left wing is falling off the page and the so-called right wing is chasing them as hard as they can ... trying to out-left the left.

This cannot end well.

UN
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barry said...

cannibalrabbi - how does the Rev Manning make a living? I'm serious. Obviously whites aren't his 'market' and surely blacks don't want to hear the truth?

Anonymous said...

Gem Junior. You hit on the key vulnerability of the PC Thought Police: ridicule. Non-stop ridicule, and God, they make it so easy, will bring the whole rotten edifice to it's knees.

Anonymous said...

'I can see where they would get upset. After all you would not want the fake fake claims detracting from the real fake claims.'

Uncle Nasty, not for the first time..fucking brilliant!

Rob said...

Typo in post title, Savant. Your reputation for infallibility is down to papal levels at this stage.

SAVANT said...

Damn Rob, missed again! Never thought of checking the heading.

Surely I'm better than a pope though?

Rob said...

The legal profession is as corrupt as the political class and the media. I'm sure any competent lawyer could drive a coach and horses through any country's hate crime legislation, but they all know that's not how you get ahead in the profession, just as uttering certain truths will mean career death to a journalist. For instance, by what logic can anyone be convicted of "incitement to hatred" without any resulting hatred being produced as evidence. Indeed, it would be impossible to prove the existence thereof, because hatred is a subjective mental state.

The Pope said...

Savant, you are excommunicated forthwith!

mischling said...

Rob in Germany right now the defence lawyer in a Holocaust denial trial is being charged with, in effect, telling the truth. Actually being criminally charged.

Anonymous said...

mischling said...

Rob in Germany right now the defence lawyer in a Holocaust denial trial is being charged with, in effect, telling the truth. Actually being criminally charged.

Mischling, that is history. Sylvia Stolz was told in no uncertain terms that the truth was not a defense in the Zundel trial.

One of the reasons she was clapped in irons during the proceedings.

Pleae read my fairly detailed post on the Zundel inquisition, above.

The judges in these Star Chamber Inquisitions** are so out of touch, that they often dismayed and shocked to see their decisions on the internet.

Cheers,
UN

**I refuse to dignify them with the term "Trial".
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Gem Junior said...

I simply cannot believe what I just read about this woman Sylvia Stolz in Germany. It was never publicized here in the Joonited States. Gee Whiz Wally, listen to this? No wonder we are so dumb when our press tells us about Lindsay Lohan all day and makes us WORK a second job to find out the truth about anything, or else we just happen upon it as I did. When did the Germans turn into such limp men? Such robots? I guess that robot efficiency, mixed with a little repetitive manipulation and shame, shame shame rammed down their throats for half a century could be the cause? She wasn't saying anything other than what she needed to say to advocate for her client - and you know this means no one is safe, no one on earth is safe from the Tentacles of Zion. Real fucking creepy. Worst news today, even worse than the 3 negroes who set a white 13 year old on fire yesterday saying This is what you get! That was one poor little kid but this is all of us being warned. Let's just fucking see about that because people get suspicious over attempts at silence. What's so important about keeping this information closed anyway? After all the holocaust DID happen, didn't it??? It's true, right?

Bemused stare said...

Good read for the whole family, hey kids love comics.

http://tarbaby.wordpress.com/2007/09/22/tales-of-the-holohoax/

Anonymous said...

Sandra Fluke was a 23 yeard old student and then a 3o year old student.
I am sure than the press will get to the reason for this discrepancy I mean that is their jib isn't it?

Bemused stare said...

Well, in a different form, here is another assault on white people based on that impeccable logic.

Apparently, we are racist even for just doing stuff we like. I await the article on how building model trains makes us racist.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2110959/Does-listening-rock-make-racist-Five-minutes-Bruce-Springsteen-makes-students-favour-white-people-others.html

Anonymous said...

Slutwoman ladygagaed someone else's experience with Poly something cycstic ovaries which explains the 100 dollar a month medicine claim but not why it was referred to as contraceptives.

Did Fluke misread her briefs?

Tony in VA said...

Bemused. That The King fucked then. Fine by me. The more of this madness the better. The penny is going to drop all the faster.

Anonymous said...

Hang on a sec now.
Did Sylvia Stolz get in trouble for producing evidence or for saying the holocaust was "the biggest lie in history" in court?

There's a big difference.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Sandra Fluke was a 23 yeard old student and then a 3o year old student.
I am sure than the press will get to the reason for this discrepancy I mean that is their j(o)b isn't it?


I was enthralled to read that Fluke's surname is pronounced "Fluck". Says it all, really.

I also recall the advice of my late father. "Never associate with a woman who has a higher sperm count than you."

Cheers,
UN
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Anonymous said...

Any of you seen that new propaganda video from the EU ?

It's bizarre to say the least.

Anonymous said...

Despite what your history professor will tell you about [the jews] ejection from Spain under Ferdinand and Isabella, it had nothing to do with the fact that they weren't Catholic and everything to do with their behavior, they intentionally enslaved the Spanish people under their usurious yolk, they absolutely, without any doubt whatsoever ushered in the MOORISH INVADERS FROM AFRICA and as a result they unquestionably committed treason, and the Spanish people knew it. It is for these reasons and no others that the Jews were ejected from Spain and you can bet there wasn't a moist eye to be found among the Spanish victims. Bearing this in mind, carefully consider the words of Joseph Goebbel's:

The Jews aren't always so clever as they would like themselves to believe. Whenever they are in danger they prove to be the stupidest devils.

Who was that jew who said to keep doing the same thing and expect different results is the definition of madness?

Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Hang on a sec now.
Did Sylvia Stolz get in trouble for producing evidence or for saying the holocaust was "the biggest lie in history" in court?

There's a big difference.


Okay ... a quote:-

Holocaust revisionist's lawyer jailed

Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:18:35

A German court has sentenced the former lawyer of Ernst Zundel to three and a half years in prison for denying the Holocaust herself.

In addition to 3 1/2 years in prison, Sylvia Stolz has also been banned by the court from practicing law for five years.

During the trial of the Holocaust revisionist scholar, Ernst Zundel , Stolz called the Holocaust "the biggest lie in world history".

Stolz has reportedly read a newspaper article to the court about the appearance of world renowned Israeli artist, Gilad Atzmon in Bochum.

In a public statement, Atzmon is quoted as having said that the written history of the Second World War and the Holocaust are a "complete forgery, initiated by Americans and Zionists".

Stolz represented 67-year-old Zundel in his first trial in Germany and was banned from the court for allegedly trying to sabotage the proceedings.

Zundel's second trial ended in February, 2007 with his conviction for denying the Holocaust and was sentenced to the maximum five years in prison.


Now here is the link to the source

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...onid=351020604

In which is stated:-

A German court has sentenced the former lawyer of Ernst Zundel to three and a half years in prison for denying the Holocaust herself.

In addition to 3 1/2 years in prison, Sylvia Stolz has also been banned by the court from practicing law for five years.

During the trial of the Holocaust revisionist scholar, Ernst Zundel , Stolz called the Holocaust "the biggest lie in world history".

Stolz has reportedly read a newspaper article to the court about the appearance of world renowned Israeli artist, Gilad Atzmon in Bochum.

In a public statement, Atzmon is quoted as having said that the written history of the Second World War and the Holocaust are a "complete forgery, initiated by Americans and Zionists".

Stolz represented 67-year-old Zundel in his first trial in Germany and was banned from the court for allegedly trying to sabotage the proceedings.

Zundel's second trial ended in February, 2007 with his conviction for denying the Holocaust and was sentenced to the maximum five years in prison.


... and finally below, a link to a dingdong between Atzmon and Tony Greenstein at PressTV.

http://azvsas.blogspot.co.nz/2008/01/gilad-atzmon-now-open-holocaust-denier.html

I could go on, but real life beckons ...

UN
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Anonymous said...

Bemused stare said...

Good read for the whole family, hey kids love comics.

http://tarbaby.wordpress.com/2007/09/22/tales-of-the-holohoax/


Nice one, Bemused Stare ... regarding which I will always remember with great fondness, Eli Weasel's** story about geysers of blood shooting out of the earth for days after Grosmutter #3342 got planted.

Now that's an image that stays with one. I'd pay money to see that.

UN

** No, that's not a mis-spelling.
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Anonymous said...

I am sorry Ramzpaul

Anonymous said...

A guy in the pub summed it up best.

Africans are like Ulster Protestants but worse.

Corkonian said...

'I could go on, but real life beckons ...'

Maybe. But beckons weakly. As I said before, if they can get away with 911 they can do anything.

Anonymous said...

I know when a child is a witch as their eyes shines like a cat

Libtards get their knickers in a twist over events quoted by Dan Brown that did not take place so let us see them condemn real witch killing which happens in the real world.

Madame X said...

FYI that Fluke lady(I use this term loosely) attended Cornell University an establishment to my knowledge reputed to be a Mossad recruiting ground..

Anonymous said...

This reminds me of the television broadcasts of protest in the urban areas of South Africa.
Protestors losing their minds in nonsensical song and dance in front of a backdrop of amazing European skyscrapers, highrises, and gothic architecture.
These citizens could do so much with the infastructure that was just given to them, but they choose to live a more primitive life while protesting for more benefits.

Came across that on a site devoted to President Pruneface.

I miss Flavia's site. She would have pictures of Los Angeles, Miami, Detroit, that Italian place in Somalia(?) from the past and present and you can guess what will happen to the South African city.

Anonymous said...

Barack and Sandra's movie

Anonymous said...

@Anon 10.29

In the early 80's it was the very images you described which changed me from a vague,very vague left leaning idiot into a eye opened realist.

Savages cavorting and capering in first world cities,modern skyscrapers or Victorian gems.

It was not exactly an epiphany,I had always disliked blacks,but it most certainly got me thinking and then enquiring.

mr.a

Anonymous said...

Detroiut then

Detroit now

Detroit has benn detroited by detroiters.

Anonymous said...

Jimmy-Dee 1 like

Sheesh.. There are thousands of people arrested and questioned every year without ever being charged or convicted. I guess we better assume they're all guilty too.

AROUND 200 students protested last night as former International Monetary Fund head Dominique Strauss-Kahn arrived to make a speech at Cambridge University.

Protestor with a sign We are all chambermaids.

Diallo was a professional of another sort.

Anonymous said...

How much of a sick idiot is Bill Maher?

On Craig Ferguson's show he stated that if he had the choice of being bullied at school or gently masturbated he would go for the option that media luvvies sometimes have a problem with and other times react by saying nah nothing to see here.

Anonymous said...

Kony stopped 6 years ago. Liking a video and a Facebook page is less effective than throwing marshmallows. Silly, silly hipsters.

The alarming truth about Kony 2012

Obongo wants to save Uganda.

Anonymous said...

Ron Scott, with the Detroit Coalition Against Police Brutality, said they are working on conflict resolution between gas station owners and Detroiters, something they will be discussing at a meeting on Sunday

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/03/10/man-shot-at-detroit-gas-station-reportedly-over-price-of-condoms/


See! This is why we need free, government supplied contraception. Without it people will die.

Anonymous said...

He got planning permission to build­ flats in Southsea and wriggled out of the social­ housing element through a court case! Lucky that listed­ building on the land you brought in southsea burned­ down eh arry guess you can knock it down now.

Isn't it amazing the numbers of listed buildingds that go on fire. And Rangers fans were nowhere near the old Bus depot or train station in Manchester. Which burned and was sold toa pal of Tony Blair dor £2.

Jerry said...

that's an amazing story about Blair and the bus station. Then again nothing would surprise me about that c*nt.

Anonymous said...

You can see from the picture accompaying "Impeccable Logic" why Barack's unique talent makes him the ebst presidential candidate.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

If race is a "social contsruct" & doesn't exist, then why do "Anti-Racists" still ONLY target White people who (don't exist) for racism? Wouldn't that just mean that "Racism" is also a social construct?? Or does it simply mean Anti-racist is a code word for Anti-White