Sunday, 1 January 2012

Pope prays for peace on earth. Again

I see Pope Ben is at it again. Same as last year, same as the year before that, same for at least 100 years. And the prayers are invariably followed by an outbreak of wars, assassinations, rebellions, tsunamis, name it.

Now it's one of the most overdone cliches I know, but Einstein defined madness as doing exactly the same thing repeatedly while expecting a different result each time. Maybe Ben should consider the unconsiderable: Maybe his Boss actually doesn't want Peace on Earth.


Martinus said...

Not to get preachy on you, but there are many important parts of the Bible which so many people tend to either not read or ignore.

Ecclesiastes 3

A Time for Everything

1 There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:
2 a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,
3 a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,
4 a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,
5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,
6 a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,
7 a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,
8 a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.

I'm sure you know the song, its quite catchy.

northern athiest said...

Martinus - you can find ANYTHING you want inthe bible. Whatever you want to justify, scratch around and you'll find it. Not convinced, afraid.

Anonymous said...

and a time to fuck the bible, the koran, the talmud and all the other supersticious crap into the bin.

Franz said...

Say what you will about paganism, but the worshippers of Thor were given eminently more practical advice than the pope is peddling:

"Be strong or be quick or else another man will drink his mead out of your skull."

Such stark realism was probably too much for our forefathers. Hence the conversion to the feel-good religion from down south.

Anonymous said...

Regarding peace on Earth and goodwill to all men, I am put in mind of this quote:-

Harry Lime:
Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance.

In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce?

The cuckoo clock.
So long, Holly.

The Third Man - 1949

Ignore the fact that this movie is heading for three-quarters of a century old.
It has some of the finest cinematic dialogue ... ever.


Dave C said...

Well Martinius, atheists seem to find NOTHING in it.

Anonymous said...

Regardless, may God's peace be with you, Savant.

A Yank Reader

Martinus said...

Northern Athiest, I'm merely pointing out what the Bible says in regard to war etc. Peace would be ideal, but when the Pope asks for it, it is simply in his personal capacity.

@ Anonymous, have some common decency, I'd expect more from who I'm assuming is a white person. No ones trying to convert you, afford the same courtesy.

spot the iceberg said...

Don't blame religion for all the problems that are increasingly besetting the Western world.

Some Jews are religious, some Jews are atheists but they're all brought up to hate white people, to feel superior to every other race on the planet, and to set up, support, and encourage efforts to destroy white society.

brian boru said...

It's ironic, but religion gets in the way of the seeker of spiritual realisation and fulfillment and prevents him from achieving it. All the religions require an 'expert' to interpret between us and god. They usually have a priest class and a 'holy' book which can always be interpreted to benefit that class and the powerful people of the society who pay lip service to that religion. Before we can have real spiritual evolution the organised religions must be dismantled, along with the vile jew economic and political system of course. No priest or mullah, and certainly no rabbi, can lead you to god. The individual alone can achieve that, or not.

Clogheen said...

brian boru. What you wrote should be written in large text and exhibited at every corner of every town.

Anonymous said...

Agreed Franz.

And a brief excerpt from "The Tain",(pronounced Tarn)a very ancient Irish Epic.

I am a stag: of seven tines.
I am a hawk: above the cliff.
I am a spear: that lusts for blood.
I am a boar: ruthless and red.
I am the breaker: threatening doom.
I am a tide: that drags to death.
I am the sword: for every head.

And my personal favourite.
I am the grave: of every hope.

I'm a Catholic,but I often wish St Patrick had stayed the fuck away.


Franz said...

@ UN

"A parrot bit me."

john said...

actually, what brian boru said is sorta written on every corner - the idea that the individual needs nothing but him/herself to find 'god' . This is patently untrue, as it makes the individual their own god , and God's nature subject to their own interpretation. Which, I might add, is a basic tenet of judaism...
But Martinus makes a valid point. Another thing you MUST remember/be aware of - the pope is on 'the other side'. catholicism has NOTHING to do with Christianity, and is in fact contrary to it.
And northern atheist and anonymous are so absurd as to not even deserve mention. Oops, I just did, didnt I? Oh well...

Anonymous said...

Stormfront thread on the growing nationalist movement in Ireland:

Anonymous said...

Good to hear about Stormfront. As many as possible shud link this blog to the thread.

Anonymous said...

If God is perfect wouldn't his book be perfect and not need interpretting?
The truth is Satan and God made up for there dispute and again are best of mates. Having a conversation over tea Satan asked God ''What are we doing about Humanity?''
God replied ''Fuck 'em they are a waste of time''
Satan smiled and said '' I gave up on them years ago, they put me to shame without any help''.

Franz said...

@ mr a

As far as I know, the Christian missionaries targeted Pagan women and counted on them to influence their husbands and their children.

Quite sneaky, actually.

Eventually it got so bad that your regular J6P Viking couldn't even sack a monastry and not hear about it at home!

P.S. Great Epic you quoted there. I'll wager that the line "I am the sword: for every head." will unleash Uncle Nasty's creativity.

Heraclitus said...

Martinus, I agree. Anon 23.54 is just needlessly offensive. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

aceshigh said...

I'll wager that the line "I am the sword: for every head." will unleash Uncle Nasty's creativity.

I'd say he'll be very selective about the heads he chooses!

Anonymous said...

The fact remains that the pope still has authority.
The kind of authority that no popes has used for centuries, but still could use. One word of the Pope and tens of millions would react immediatly, with or without governments approval. Spiritual autority is above the Temporal, way above.

The pope must know that the sins the Church has repeatidly fought, condamned, anathemed, branded has Evil for centuries, have not disapeared. Worse, they now rule the world more than ever.
These sins have only changed in names, not in nature.
Two major punishable-by-death sins were Usury, repeatidly condamned until 325, and Christian enslavement, often practiced by the same usurers and still today under different names.
The Pope just needs to go to his balcon and say:
"Christianity condemns Usury and ask the People and the faithfulls to remove Usurers and Enslavers from power".
That's it that's all. But he stays silent. It now looks like the Church is willing to tolerate these abominations as lesser evils rather than fight them. For what? Has the pope become one of them?

Elaine said...

anon 20.19 - interesting comment. But the Church and the Pope are now more political than they've ever been. And PC/multicul is the order of the day. Hence their support for it. hence their loss of moral authority.

Anonymous said...

A bit off topic but I forgot to post this.May be worth further investigation Savant.

Anyway this was buried away in the inside pages of Indo just before Christmas.I quote from memory.

"Irish taxpayers are to buy 200 mountain bikes for the Ugandan police force at a cost 350,000 Euros."

I really can't think of anything else to say about this.


Anonymous said...

Mr a. says:

"Irish taxpayers are to buy 200 mountain bikes for the Ugandan police force at a cost 350,000 Euros."

I really can't think of anything else to say about this.

I can can think of lots of things to say, Mr a.

They would start with going through your local business registrar, until you find a politician who owns a cycle shop in financial difficulties ....

There. Fixed it.

Happy New year,
Uncle Nasty

Clogheen said...

UN says They would start with going through your local business registrar, until you find a politician who owns a cycle shop in financial difficulties ....

Truly brilliant suggestion!

I'm literally going to do that here tomorrow in Limerick.

Anonymous said...

Elaine, yes, but why has the pope become so PC?
That's not in the Church tradition to be PC and their icon model, Mr Christ, was not very PC either.

H. Lone said...

The Church is a multi-national corporation. It adapts to the market. PC is where it's at now.

What's Mr. Christ got to do with anything? Did he live in opulent splendour with an army of servants to tend his every need?

Anonymous said...

Franz and aceshigh said...

"I am the sword: for every head."

A very strange coincidence there, gentlemen.

I am reliably told that I am the great-to-the-power-of-about-twentieth grandson of Sigrid Svenssonsonsonsonsdottir who, at the tender age of twelve, was known and feared in 10th century Carthage as Sigrid det Hudlæge*** on account of all the black heads she removed.

Uncle Nasty

*** Sigrid the Dermatologist (Seriously ... Look it up)


kulak said...

"Now it's one of the most overdone cliches I know, but Einstein defined madness as doing exactly the same thing repeatedly while expecting a different result each time."

A lot gets attributed to Einstein, the Mahler of Physik.

H. Lone is right.

kulak said...

Never fully trust a man who doesn't have kids.

The Catholic church was(is) dysgenic, since priests are supposed to (a) have elevated verbal IQs, and (b) be celibate.

That's a whole lotta hours studying Latin and Greek down the drain! So to speak.

Just think a' that! For hundreds of years, a huge chunk of the white population that could read -- at all -- fathered NOBODY. Not officially.

Thank God for Luther.

In this way, Catholicism is as silly crazy Buddhism -- also founded by a f'ed up blue-eyed devil.

kulak said...

Grown women like Jesus for the same reason little girls like unicorns and boy bands.

He promises them protection, status, magic, and romance without any of that messy, nasty sex stuff. For women, the unconditional love of Jesus is love from a man, but without sex.

Grown men like Jesus because dying for your fellows is a male Aryan virtue, as is putting on the Armor of God to battle the Adversary. At least that's how the more conservative churches market it to men.

That said, Jesus' critique of the Pharisees is simply awesome.


Anonymous said...

That's a whole lotta hours studying Latin and Greek down the drain.

Or into the pillow!! LMAO!

Anonymous said...

Especially to warring lesbians!

Never thought of joint custody?

Anonymous said...

brother if that photo of Ben is not retouched he sure looks like THE EVIL ONE does he not,

brian boru said...

John, the understanding of God, or Universal Consciousness, or whatever description of the ultimate reality you choose to use, can only be realised by the individual himself. It's not an intellectual exercise which can be explained to a person or interpreted by him. It's a journey of individual spiritual exploration, the goal of which is self realisation and, through that, God realisation, since our essence is part of the God essence. This is commonly, though not always, achieved by meditation. An individual's probability of success will be determined by their physical, mental and moral qualities. Notice I didn't say that you find God. God cannot be described but can be realised. What I'm stating is the antithesis of what the jew believes and practices. Jews put themselves and their tribe up as the god they worship. They are the ultimate materialists and atheists. They are a cult of death, for without the spiritual the material is pointless and ultimately leads to despair. Wise men who have achieved realisation can give advice on how to go about it and what way is best to live one's life, but that is not the same as an organised religion, which invariably accumulates material power and becomes corrupt.