Wednesday, 27 July 2011

Riddle me this........

The British are arguably the most extraordinary nation in human history. A tiny island dominated almost a quarter of the globe at one stage, and provided a contribution to science, literature, philosophy and overall civilisation out of all proportion to its size and resources. I should really be talking about the Anglo-Saxons here. We on the Celtic fringe have made our contribution and are gifted in our own ways. But can anyone seriously argue that said British achievements would have occurred as they did had all of Britain been inhabited by Celts?

Anyway, inherent pride in these achievements, allied to the bulldog spirit, lead to Britain being almost impossible to invade and conquer. Had Hitler managed to cross the Channel, does anyone seriously believe that a quisling or Vichy government would have arisen? No, any conqueror would have succumbed in short order, unable to hold down the feisty populace.

A picture sent my Essex Boy, one of our regular posters, has occasioned me to reflect on these issues. We know that large parts of Britain (Blackburn, Bradford, Dewsbury) have been colonised by Muslim invaders, and that this is part of an overall plan for Eurabia. But this latest surely represents an almost de jure UDI?

So back to my question. What has changed so much that has resulted in the doughty Englishman becoming so supine? Standing by while their country is overrun by hostile, incompatible and parasitical invaders? It’s an existential question, and I’ve no doubt that future historians will look back and marvel at how it could have happened. Much as they do about Rome now. But that decline took hundreds of years, Britain’s within a couple of generations.

By the way, did you note the relatively innocuous restrictions listed on the sign? This particular version of Dar-al-Islam has omitted to remind intruders of some of the more rigorous restrictions, such as beheadings for infidels, stoning for adultery or amputations for theft. All in good time, all in good time.

102 comments:

Mac an Rí said...

The English are justifiably famed for their character, at once pugnacious and phlegmatic...but odds are there were individuals within the English political class and society at large who would have been satisfied (though hardly delighted) to form a government on Vichy lines.

And England's invaders have not always succumbed: beside the Romans (and of course Horsa and Hengist), the Normans crushed Anglo-Saxon England, and utterly reshaped their culture - indeed, their very language. Or maybe more relevant is the unresisted (indeed welcomed) takeover of England by William of Orange.

Maybe that's the point to take from those dark points in England's history - that even the mightiest polities that have controlled that part of Britain can be subverted, subdued or uprooted by incomers.

And given what a fine job the Normans did of using their new property (the English state) to conquer us, that makes what happens there of absolute importance to Irish security. I don't really like the idea of us having to handle a belligerent, Sharia England on our doorstep. So the efforts of Englishmen to resist what is happening to their country should be supported and encouraged - if only for our own selfish national interests.

Anonymous said...

Well there's no free lunch Savant.

And no art. But that's not all bad, as it also means no "Piss Christ."

What has changed so much that has resulted in the doughty Englishman becoming so supine?

Who cares? Tell me how they rose.

Shaunantijihad said...

Savant, are you suggesting... gulp... that the success of a nation has something to do with... gulp... w w w with RACE?

My, my! In times of universal Communist deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. Indeed.


http://www.thenationalpolicyinstitute.org/2010/04/15/the-chinese-century-an-npi-staff-report-2/

George said...

The sun HAS set on the British empire...

The Great Unwashed said...

Here is what I believe is necessary. Last fall in the U.S. Sen. Harry Reid entered an upscale Washington store to buy some last minute groceries.He was recognized by fellow shoppers and harrased to the point that his Park Police bodyguards feared for his physical safety and husseled him out to a waiting car. Reid, ever the friend to welfare mooching, illegal aliens has never shown his face in public again.
The point is this. It is time for whites to turn on whites. It is time for conservatives to shake their fists in the faces of the Trust Fund liberals who are allowing the islamofacists to destroy your country. The leftists should not feel safe to go to the Pub, to dinner, to a school play or to the beach without some white patriot getting in their face and shouting them down. Force them to live lives so encapsulated by necessary 24/7 security that they cry in their pinot grigio for the good old days.
White on white. It will work.

Sinsin said...

You are mistaken in your analysis of British history.It was and still is the Venetian Empire.Go back and look again at William of Orange.

Franz said...

I'll not dare to solve the riddle but chip in with an observation about the Brits:

From what I can tell the majority of them absolutely delights in the rape of their country by the scum of the earth. The place appears to be open to any riff-raff, provided it is riff-raff of color.

There is acutally only ONE group of colored people that have received the most shabby and haughty treatment from the UK.

That group is the Gurkhas, of martial fame that needs no further elaboration.

In recent years, apparently some improvements have been made vis a vis the Gurkhas, but their army pensions are seemingly still dwarfed by the amounts that are expended to finance the idleness of Enoch Powell's black nemisis.

It baffles me that British taxpayers see nothing wrong about financing the invasion of their homeland by throngs of HIV infested ganja consumers, but apparently are too stingy to finance clinics and retirement homes in Nepal for the benefit of yesterday's VC recipients.

If something as basic as gratitude and respect for services rendered is lost, something is out of whack which goes beyond the readily apparent signs of decline.

W Baker said...

WW1 decimated Britain's (and Europe's) gene pool and WW2 finished it off.

There are multi-generational consequences to war - particularly on that scale.

Essex boy said...

Mac an Ri ("son of the king", right?) you make an excellent point. But I'd say what Savant was getting at was more the Englishman of the 17th centure onwards. (Correct me if I'm wrong). This people were a PRODUCT of the very foreces and events you refer to. SO no contradiction there, I'd say.

Anonymous said...

My guess would be that the answer is somewhat contained in Atlas Shrugged.



Or The Fountainhead

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.

You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.

You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.

You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.

You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.

You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves. 

Theft At The Public Till

Once upon a time government was about governance and now it is what Yes, Minister satirised.

For example in the 70s Universities needed extra money to pay for their heating in the oil price shock. For the rest of the 70s,80s, 90s, (and 00s?) they would have the heating on full blast and the air conditioning on in the summer time or, gulp, they would lose the money given to them in the past to deal with a problem which was long past.

Anonymous said...

Excellent article, Savant. The questions you posed caused me to become quite reflective. As an Anglo-Saxon Amercan, I have often pondered about the self-destruction of my ancestral homeland. Part of my thinking revolves around issues of modern technology and communication which has fueled Third World jealously, and hence, First World guilt. And so,the once-proud UK has acquiesced to its own demise by "sharing success." Furthermore, I maintain that the West is still on a guilt trip after the (WWII) Holocaust, and therefore is extremely reluctant to be considered nationalistic or racist. Call it "Hitler's last revenge."

Rob said...

It's a hard puzzle to solve. The only huge change I can think of that preceded Britain's spectacular decline was the extension of suffrage to the entire population. I suppose there's no way of telling if it's a case of correlation or causation.

Hector G. said...

anon 19.43. Very perceptive observation. I'm also an Anglo-Saxon American and what you say seems all too true. I simply cannot understand how we've let our countries be destroyed like this. But don't forget we've been programmed tgo accept - celebrate - such developements since the end of WW2.

Anonymous said...

Why the English(with more than a little help from the Scots)is no mystery.The most advanced political system at the end of the 17th century combined with an unprecedented flowering of scientific and engineering genius.It might have been the Dutch,but their population was too small.Germany was still fragmented.

As to the decline,I have no idea.The sadness and tragedy of that decline is of vast importance not only to Britain but all of the White World.

Perhaps the doughty English battler
is a distortion of reality:the English,cleverly,never did that much battling themselves.90% of Wellingtons army at Waterloo was Irish.Most of Napoleons soldiers were,by then,Poles.

Later on,Germany would have crushed Britain,in both wars,if it had been one to one.
This is not to slight,in any way,our English friends:please don't think that of me.It is just a statement of fact.

Nonetheless,Britains stand against Hitler was heroic.

Would the British then have been so defiant had they known what their Country would be like in 2011?

mr.a

Mac an Rí said...

Essex boy - absolutely, although I believe that, despite all those hammer blows of history that helped shape the 17th c. Englishman and his descendants, he himself was heir to the fine mettle of his forefathers.

Anyway, I wasn't contradicting the main thrust of Savant's post - merely observing that the history of the English is not untroubled by upheavals different from internal catastrophes (War of the Roses; English Civil War etc). And however admirable the English character at its best is (and which I regard highly), like any nation, had the Third Reich invaded, odds are there probably would have been 'pragmatists' willing to work within the 'changed circumstances'.

(That's not to say there wouldn't have been a British resistance too. And it would have been ferocious - probably starting with such traitors.)

Back to that main point though - I don't think Europe's 20th c. of bloodshed helped. But deeper than this, the pervasive influence of materialism, the valorisation of technology and progress, and the discrediting and suppression of any honest, serious discussion of differences between the races, the sexes, and the classes, have together shattered the inner compass of healthy European and Western societies.

We don't know who we are; don't know where we're going.

If you refuse to admit you are profoundly different from another, and you insist your interests and anothers are always identical...well you've no grounds for refusal when someone suggests that, 'for the good of us all, especially you, we're gonna need you to take a bullet for the team. Right in the head. Right now.'

It's little wonder we're all in disarray. Webs of lies tend to disorient. And render you immobile.

Anonymous said...

Wish you would post more often.

Do you know that it was your site that alerted me to the Norway massacres?

Please post more.

Jeremy said...

"Would the British then have been so defiant had they known what their Country would be like in 2011?"

What a good question, mr.a. Naturally enough, they would have instantly consigned anyone who came up with such a fantasy to the lunatic asylum pronto!

store man said...

I fully agree with the poster who asked you to post more frequently. I might add that I'm not holding my breath waiting for this notice to be publicised omn the MSM.

Franz said...

W Baker's explanation of a depleted gene pool due to war certainly makes sense. That phenomenon is certainly visible in Germany as well.

Another partial explanation - and I'm surprised that nobody has brought it up yet - may be the influence of Jews in the sphere of politics, media, culture and last but not least: banking.

I would go so far as to compare the proceedings in Britain with the decline of imperial Spain. A decline in which the so called "conversos", that is Jews who had converted to Christianity, had a huge hand.

Some authors argue that in the sixteenth century, virtually all nobles at the Spanish court were of converso blood.

The greed and nepotism of these parasites effected what nobody at the time thought possible: Bringing down the first empire on which the sun never set. Despite the best soldiers in the world and literal boatloads of gold and silver coming in.

Let me add my usual caveat: I do not think all Jews are parasites. But it would appear that an unusually large percentage of them happen to be evil-doing scheemers (just like an unusal percentage of native American Indians suffer from alcoholism).

Whenever I behold the asiatic features of the Milliband brood, I am astonished that so many Britons not only consider these dark figures their countrymen, but are apparently prepared to elect them to the highest offices.

Anonymous said...

The decimation of Britain's stock during the two world wars was definitely a factor. Also the ensuing financial exhaustion. But does that explain the anject surrender that we see? I don't think so.

Heraclitus said...

Franz - I was wonderiong too why this elephant in the room wasn't mentioned. Because what's happened to Britain is the apotheosis - the dream made manifest - of the Cultural Marxism project. Amazing how nobody on this blog mentioned it before.

Anonymous said...

WW1 decimated Britain's (and Europe's) gene pool and WW2 finished it off.

So what's the excuse of the US? As Fred points out, USA is rapidly catching up with the UK:
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Disengagement.shtml
"When a country works reasonably well—when the schools teach algebra and not governmentally mandated Appropriate Values, when the police are scarce and courteous, when government is remote and minds its business and works more for the benefit of the country than for looters and special interests, then pledging to it a degree of allegiance isn't foolish. Decades back America was such a country, imperfect as all countries are, but good enough to cherish."

"As decline begins, and government becomes oppressive, self-righteous, and ruthless yet incompetent, as official spying flourishes, as corruption sets in hard, and institutions rot, it is time to disengage. Loyalty to a country is a choice, not an obligation. In other times people have loved family, friends, common decency, tribe, regiment, or church instead of country. In an age of national collapse, this is wise."

"A fruitful field of disengagement might be called domestic expatriation—the recognition that living in a country makes you a resident, not a subscriber. It is one thing to be loyal to a government that is loyal to you, another thing entirely to continue that loyalty when the Brown Shirts march and the government rejects everything that you believe in. While the phrase has become unbearably pretentious, it is possible to regard oneself as a citizen of the world rather than of the Reich"
(...)

Anonymous said...

But deeper than this, the pervasive influence of materialism, the valorisation of technology and progress, and the discrediting and suppression of any honest, serious discussion of differences between the races, the sexes, and the classes, have together shattered the inner compass of healthy European and Western societies.

What is it Respectable Conservatives say of blacks?

It's their culture.

It sounds like it's explaining something, but it's not. We already know about these things; why are whites falling for them / embracing them / or simply not fighting them?

Face it: Whites fucked up their gene pools in the wars; the remaining white gene pool is mostly maladaptive in the face of the new environment created by the white man's own technology.

The End.

(Of the world as Liberals and Respectable Conservatives know it.)

Now that that's settled, let's get on with the business of surviving.

euroserf said...

Look, the system has successfully neutered us. We are no longer “moral actors,” so to speak. The idea of physically standing up for right and wrong makes very little sense in a society that does its best to diminish and obfuscate the very concept of right and wrong. Why act?

motoboy said...

But the Scandinavian gene pool was untouched by the Wars. So why are they so fucked up? Just askin'

RegThe Hedge said...

The problem with England is the fact that the people who have the foresight to see whats coming are depending on democracy to save them. Democracy will be waaaay to late. Patriots have to act now and patriots who act now will be reviled by the majority. Their lives will be ruined, plain and simple. Englishmen have to organise and sacrifice. If you are not prepared to do that then convert to Islam. That way at least you won't be upset all the time.

It is absolutely true what Mac na Ri says. When England falls to Islam we on the island of Ireland are in very serious truble.

Citizenfitz said...

At Incogman's blog you asked if Americans are as clueless about Jews as elsewhere. Mostly so. But people here are waking up to them more quickly than in other parts of the European diaspora, I think.

Anonymous said...

I think Germany is a bit different. Not in terms of its toughness and contribution to civilization, but because it's a comparatively 'new' nation and has had its borders changed continuously since its inception. Decimation of the gene pool surely a much bigger factor here though than in Britain or almost any other western country.

J Bull said...

Oh for a Churchill.........

Anonymous said...

So why are [modern Nords] so fucked up?

I'm thinking they can only get it up for white enemies.

Russia should invade.

Anonymous said...

Oh for a Powell...

Anonymous said...

Television. That's the answer. The technology of cultural centralization.

Franz said...

@ J Bull said

Sorry, but another Churchill would merely emulate the first one and speed up the atrition of the gene pool through another huge war.

If you wish for the reincarnation of a British politician, you ought to look into the biography of William Ewart Gladstone. That man was pro-freedom, anti-war, not to mention a friend of the Irish.

To his supporters he was known "The People's William" or the "G.O.M." (Grand Old Man). The Jew prime minister Disraeli changed that to "God's Only Mistake".

Coming out of that particular mouth, being called "mistake" is a high recommendation indeed. That creature Disraeli appears to have been the original instigator of class hatred in Britain and a court Jew to boot.

Shaunantijihad said...

Perhaps after rejecting religious notions of right and wrong the ethical void was subsequently filled so rapidly by Cultural Communism that it has not been fully questioned or opposed until the alternative media of the internet? It is simply the new immorality to oppose the genetic destruction of our people by the low IQ Negro genome and mad Mullahs. The new morality is to celebrate said destruction. All confirmed daily by the enforcers of the new morality - the old mass media.

Perhaps what we need is an ethical reason to reject the multi-racialism that will destroy our civilisation? I note they never deplore the existence of purely Negro nations, or Arab nations.

Perhaps the argument could go like this:

"What kind of vile, racist Nazi would oppose the existence of black people to have their own countries? What kind of vile, racist Nazi would oppose the existence of Arab people to have their own countries and all those they conquered, so many so that there is even a League of Arab nations? So, What kind of vile, racist Nazi would oppose the existence of white people to have their own countries, and even a League of white nations?

Essex boy said...

I agree with Franz. Churchill was a war monger who wasn't overly concerned with the enemy. Once there was an enemy! Not enough of a historian to comment on Gladstone, but yes, Churchill definitely not the answer.

Anonymous said...

Like most Irish,I have many relatives in England.They are the descendents of the Irish who emigrated after the war.Some during the war,to join up and fight.
The first generation of children(my 1st cousins)did well for themselves.Their children,for the most part,have done exceptionally well.One is on The Sunday Times Rich List.

Anyway,in recent years,I have become much closer to them than previously.Getting to know and,for the most part,like your own blood is one of lifes pleasures.

I've noticed about them that they are generally more patriotic and nationalistic than indigenous Britons,albeit with sentimental attachments to Ireland.

They lament more,the decline of their country than native whites.

And yet,to a man-and woman-they vote Labour.Now I'm aware that the Tories are equally hopeless,but voting for Labour,a party dedicated to the destruction of all that is good and great about England,seems to be hardwired into the brains of otherwise,highly intelligent and successful people.
I don't get it.

mr.a

Anonymous said...

Russia has enough trouble now trying to survive with rapidly declining white population.

Heraclitus said...

The English having "come to" Ireland several hundred years ago was the best thing that could have happened to us. I say this as an Irishman of mature years.

Mac an Rí said...

mr.a: a very important point. There is a sense in which we Irish, when we've emigrated, have contributed to the 'progressive' movements that have come to do such damage to the USA and the UK. And back here at home, we take no small measure of pride in that, seeing it as a 'moral triumph'.

Heraclitus: as a mature Irishman myself, whilst I admire English culture and character at its best, I consider the invasion and destruction of Gaelic Ireland the worst thing that could have happened to both nations. In my view, the worst progressivist inclinations within England were whetted and fed, while we were hollowed out, and left a mere shadow of what we were. Both were made vulnerable to the 'gospel' of progress that now rules - we Irish in particular, to judge by mr.a's observation.

Anonymous said...

I've noticed about them that they are generally more patriotic and nationalistic than indigenous Britons,albeit with sentimental attachments to Ireland.

They lament more,the decline of their country than native whites.

And yet,to a man-and woman-they vote Labour.


More or less the same story in the U.S.

MORE race-conscious and resistant, day-to-day, to non-whites than WASPs.

But voting to the detriment of WASPs at every turn.

Then they lost their ethnic cohesion in the 1940s, and started voting to their OWN detriment as well.

Prior to that, they were highly conscious of their differences with the native whites, and used the state whenever they could to their advantage and the native's disadvantage.

This worked to lift Irish fortunes where there were sufficient voting Irish (e.g. the upper Midwest), but not TOO many Irish (e.g. Boston.)

I bet this is general: white minorities suck eggs and fuck over the majority.

They SEEM extra-patriotic only because they're jealous of the "good thing" they've got going.

Barney said...

As a true Englishman, I can answer your question in a single sentence borrowed from a great American hero currently incarcerated for telling the truth.

I refer to Edgar J Steele and his statement that "It's the jews, stupid".

http://www.free-edgar-steele.com/

By the treasonous practice of lending fake money at interest, these gargoyle-like creatures of satan have gained control not only of Britain, but of almost the entire world.

They control the media, the indoctrination of children (falsely referred to as "education"), the brainwashing industry masquerading as "entertainment", and literally everything else.

When you create imaginary money simply by typing numbers on a computer (and before that by the act of writing those numbers in a book), you can invent all the money in the world and use it to buy, bribe and steal everything you want. You can even make your own laws and have your enemies killed with impunity.

The jews have destroyed my country and our culture over the last 40 or 50 years, and importing all these incompatible, White hating savages into formerly White nations is just another part of their strategy for total world domination prior to their eventual planned destruction of all life.

Read their own satanic "religious" books at

http://www.come-and-hear.com/

Whatever the spiritual truths may be, taken collectively the jews fulfil the function of "the devil".

Here's an excellent new site for the jew-aware

http://hofflandia.wordpress.com/

What the jews have never learned though is that, sooner or later, we'll decide enough is enough, as has happened throughout history, and this time they won't find anywhere to run with the whole world finally knowing what they really are.

If they really wanted to know what's coming, they could start by reading Kipling's "When the Saxon learned to hate". We may appear subdued at present, but that heroic fighting spirit hasn't gone entirely. We're just waiting for the right time, and it can't be far off now.

Btw, people keep mentioning the evil, drug-addicted jew Churchill as if he was some kind of hero. That sickens me, and anyone else who knows the truth about that despicable creature.

Anonymous said...

It's not so much that the British were the most outstanding nation, but the most controlled by it's elite, that is to say the people who served the British elite, were in fact the biggest sheeple, barely better than slaves.

Britain has at various times needed coalitions to defeat a given enemy, Napoleon's France for instance. Not to mention a massive commonwealth force of 500 000 to defeat 45000 Boers. Even then they had to put their families into disease ridden concentration camps to force them to the negotiating table.

Another thing that makes me laugh is cretinous British saying they won WW2. It is a well known fact that the US won WW2, while Britain made up the numbers and sold it's sovereignty to the US for survival.

As for todays British, they are the same old sheeple, except now they have their TVs to tell them what to do and how to think.

Most British in SA used to make utter fools of themselves and their women were regarded as sluts.

Outstanding? Definitely not. Embarrassing Maybe.

Anonymous said...

The best description of the alcoholic pig Churchill came from 'Das Boot', "A bed-wetting, cigar chomping, asshole".

I'm sure the tens of thousands of young men who died at Gallipoli, would agree.

No, the best thing for Churchill would have been a bullet in the head, when captured during the Boer War.

Franz said...

@ Anon 23:14

+100.000 for linking to Fred Reed, although I haven't been able to access his site for quite a while.

In a sane world that guy would be the highest paid writer on the staff of the New York Times.

However, the world we live in sees him exiled to Mexico and there languishing in relative obscurity.

Nuts.

Rob said...

All advanced nations seem bent on self-destruction, with the exception of Japan. Switzerland may be heading more slowly down the road to self-inflicted ruin, but the difference between it and other Western countries is quantitative rather than qualitative.
The sad thing is that this should be the most glorious epoch in Western civilization, as advances in science and technology have made such huge improvements in people's lives over the past century. Life expectancy has more than doubled since Victorian times. Just when Whites should be enjoying the fruits of their great advances in science, they've decided to throw it all away.
Is there a causative connection between these benefits and the collapse of civilization? I don't know, but it could be that a people stays better focused on its own survival when suffering and hardship are never far away.

Franz said...

Since he's been mentioned numerous times, I give you Enoch the visionary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cn7dDF74yE&feature=related

To be folowed by quotes of William Ewart Gladstone:

About Ireland:
"We are bound to lose Ireland in consequence of years of cruelty, stupidity and misgovernment and I would rather lose her as a friend than as a foe."

About Gerorge Washington:
"He is the purest figure in history."

About ethics:
"Nothing that is morally wrong can be politically right."

And finally a visionary quip about modern-day bleeding heart liberals:
"Men are apt to mistake the strength of their feeling for the strength of their argument."

john said...

Franz is correct, in both posts. However, and it will be rejected I'm sure by many if not most here, the answer may be found in the Bible. God's word tells us specifically of these things happening when, as a nation, we reject Him and His way. This is fact.
The rapid decline of both Britain and amerika can be traced directly to the decline in TRUE Christianity amongst the populace and in their institutions. When this happens, the jew and his talmudic system is allowed in and this parasite will always kill the host.
Read it for yourself...

joelgp said...

Barney - you say 'the Jews' but bear in mind that only a small proportion of Jews play the role you ascribe to Jews in general.

Rohan Swee said...

Some stray speculation:

1) Despite their other, noble national traditions ("fair play", rule of law), the English have long been noted for their remarkable level of class consciousness and class hatred. Whether they are really any worse in this way than the Europeans (or even, these days, Americans) who remark it, I don't have enough European experience to say, but the almost sadistic delight that their ruling classes seem to be taking in the destruction of England and the degradation of the English seems to suggest it has some truth to it. Globalization in its current form allows them indulge their malice in ways that were limited under previous prevailing economic and technological conditions.

(While the remarkably swift and accelerating degradation of the U.S. into an ugly Latin-American style social structure manifests some of the same class-hatred, these attitudes seems to be of more recent and opportunitistic growth here.)

2) Those same noble national characteristics have, ironically (but of course, they're English!), made the English even more vulnerable to the modern rot that infects all Western societies. E.g., the feminization and passivity brought about by the welfare state and consequent fatherlessness, in league with their characteristic mildness, tolerance, and desire to be fair and impartial, just means they sicken and die faster than the rest under the pressures of globalization and anti-nationalism.

3) W Baker raises the point I've long pondered - that Britain (and Europe) died a long time ago, in the trenches of the First World War, and we're too historically close to see the truth that will be obvious to those living 500 years hence.

I agree that Britain as she was stands first among the great nations of history. In some ways I find her squalid decline even more grievous than that of my own nation - as I come from a time when Americans (of all descents) tended to see the latter as very much a continuation, an offspring, of the former, a piece of the same cloth.

Heraclitus said...

Mac an Ri - may be you're correct. My own view is that the Gaelic was an inferior culture. Hate to say it but would be my assessment. We got the English language as our native tongue and look at all the magnificent buildings.

Californian said...

As for today's British, they are the same old sheeple, except now they have their TVs to tell them what to do and how to think.


Anthony Burgess once commented that in the old days, instead of watching television people sat around the campfire and told stories--and that you could see better pictures in the fire! No doubt, and if people did share stories (as they do on the internet) then perhaps they would see how the system has robbed them of their countries and increasingly their lives. And then they might take start resisting.

Television is part of the reason for the passivity of modern political life. TV's largely liberal agitprop. But even if the programming were rightwing, the thing about television is that it is a passive medium. People park themselves in front of a glowing screen for several hours a day. And then assume what they see on the tube is realty. The rise of "reality TV" is symptomatic. You have to watch a highly edited simulacrum to get reality? How alienated people have become! Yet television accomplishes what the elites want, which is to warehouse people while they (the elites) do as they please. Television has become for post-moderns the equivalent of the opium den. Instead of being out in the streets protesting, they are locked down in their living rooms.

Part of Western liberation will have to be a rejection of the obsession with television. It staggers me that for all the talk about the liberal media and the white male bashing on the tube, people still pay -- yes, pay -- to bring the enemy's agitprop into their homes. Truly a remarkable state of affairs.

One thing race realists or rightists in general might do is organize a boycott of the media. Something like: cancel your cable subscriptions, switch off that six o'clock prolefeed, do not buy that widescreen plasma hi-def telescreen. Turn this into a cultural insurrection.

Take that Red Pill.

http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/

Mac an Rí said...

Never really bought the architectural payoff angle, myself. Nor that English speech marks any real advancement in thought or culture. But, sir, this being your view, I will not argue it. We shall simply agree to differ. My best to you.

Franz said...

@ Mr a

Could it be that the Irish's disposition towards "progressive" parties is rooted in the traumatic past of your nation? Being conquered, potato famine et cetera? Such things may change the character of a nation substantially.

Research in the field of Epigenetics suggests that traumatic occurences such as wars and famines leave a hereditable imprint in the genes of those that lived through such a catastrophe.

The gene pool is thus not only affected by being reduced in terms of numbers, but also by changes in the genetic structure of the survivors themselves.

Epigenetics is a rather young field of study, but if there is indeed something to it, you'd have your explanation why Irishmen on both sides of the pond are easily duped by parties merely claiming to represent the underdogs.

It would also explain a lot about the current state of my country, Britain and scores of others.

Anonymous said...

@anon 14.16

You are incorrect about the British being "sheeple" and more under the thumbs of their rulers than other people.

The reasons for the Scientific and Industrial Revolutions occurring first in England were precisely because they were MORE free than others.

There was greater political freedom(relative to the times of course).The middle class in England was larger than anywhere else.It was this class which provided the genius and drive for the ensuing explosion of knowledge and industry.

The class structure was less rigid or rather,stratified,than it was to become.Later,those who had made their fortunes in industry or trade,wished to turn their backs on these very things,and wanted to be ennobled,titled.Their children became Viscount this or Marquess that.

Perhaps this is the start of the decline,now I think about it.

mr.a

Bemused stare said...

joelgp said...

Barney - you say 'the Jews' but bear in mind that only a small proportion of Jews play the role you ascribe to Jews in general.


To quote an old (think Yoda) and dear friend who himself was bereft of a foreskin. "You see M......, there is a difference. Look at our lot and then look at the Essenwood road crowd, when you see them you very quickly understand why millions of my people ended up in a gas chamber."

In case you were wondering, the "Essenwood road" crowd were the majority and held all the trappings we are accustomed to of their ilk.

Anonymous said...

We're just waiting for the right time, and it can't be far off now.

Waiting is waiting.

Survival requires work.

In your own locality, with the people around you, wherever you choose to be.

You will stumble at first. You will make mistakes. But you will LEARN.

Failure is always OUR fault.

The shepherd has AFFECTION for his sheep. Not contempt.

A man who holds his sheep in contempt confesses his inferiority and infidelity.

A shepherd holding his sheep in contempt is absurd. Contempt is for fallen PEERS.

****

You know the score. YOU are the race.

Those who do not are not white.

But they COULD be.

The race doesn't need to be woken.

The race is always awake.

It may grow, it may shrink, it may even die. But it never SLEEPS.

You were dead. Now you are alive.

To Grow. To Prosper. That is life.

Our task is not to waken men.

Our task is to SAVE them.

Race is survival.

RegThe Hedge said...

I can't tell when, but groups are going to rise up in England to represent the disperate groups. Violent groups. I'd be willing to bet all I own on an IRA type group for indigenious English in the next few years. In fact I'd be shocked if there wasn't something like that out there forming as we speak.
In fifteen years I'd be surprised if they weren't carrying out attacks. Their primary target will be Marxist groups, propaganda distributors like the controlled media and hardline Islamic groups.
I think the shooter in Oslo will have broken the ice for them.
I think they'll do something and expect things to go badly wrong. If things don't go wrong then a campagin begins.
It is so obvious this is going to happen. You can't tie a people up in knots, disposses them and their children and honestly expect the people to lie down and take it.
Once it begins there will be shag all that the athorities can do to stop it.
I can't see somethong like that happening in France even thougj France is worse ofg in a lot of ways. I think the difference in French and English men is the willingness to fight.

Anonymous said...

joel says:

Barney - you say 'the Jews' but bear in mind that only a small proportion of Jews play the role you ascribe to Jews in general.

A small proportion then evidently has been sufficient.

Whose responsibility are they?

If it is the remainder of the Jews, then they have failed or been derelict in restraining them, and whites should act accordingly.

If they are whites' responsibility, or our vulnerability to them our responsibility, then whites should again act accordingly.

Henry IX said...

anon 14.16 - you sound like a well-balanced Boer - a chip on both shoulders!

great white said...

Shaunantijihad: I've heard EXACTLY these statements made about blacks and Arab countries. But they're left open-mouthed when you ask them why whites shouldnt have the same entitlement!

Henry IX said...

@rohan swee: I dont think Britain has a highly antoganistic class structure. Remember there was no 'revolution' here, no nobles sent to the gallows by the proles. I think it's more an intellectual rather than a class-based elite which has rejoiced in their nation's destruction.

James Lord said...

anon 18.48. You're dead right. Even in my own tiny way I KNOW that I've opened the eyes of several friends and family members. Maybe they've done the same. I've done this mainly by pointing out how we are being programmed in the MSM to accept miscegenation as normal.

Thier response is usually along the lines of 'bloody hell, you're right. We ARE being propagandized.'

The other thing I do is send on links to blogs like this one.

That's just me. We CAN make a difference if we just move ourselves to do it!

Anonymous said...

@Franz.

There may be something in that Franz.
I've never heard of Epigenetics.I must do some reading on it.Could you recommend some material?.English or German,it does'nt matter.

However,I don't think this would apply to Irish in the US,despite the assertions of a previous poster.The Irish voted overwhelmingly Democrat,but the Democrats in the decades before FDR and the decade after him,could hardly be described as "progressive".

Yes,we gave them the Kennnedys(I beg forgiveness)but the Boston Irish rioted fiercely in protest against bussing.

But today,I don't believe there is any such thing as an Irish-American voting bloc any more than there is a German-American bloc.The visits of Presidents to Ireland seeking re-election look increasingly silly.Particularly the last one.


mr.a

Bemused stare said...

anon 14.16 - you sound like a well-balanced Boer - a chip on both shoulders!

On the contrary, he sounds like someone who is battling to let go of the past for the common good of our people, you don't come off that well.

In short, we need to heal that which has parted us until now, we don't do that by being a smartass for cheap points.

Franz said...

Sorry to go wholly off opic, but... I just came upon a gimmic from my favorite human beings, the Austrian race realists of the FPÖ. Check out this nifty little flash game:

http://megaswf.com/file/1041200

It's called "Moschee Baba" and was programmed for the regional elections in Styria. The player's job is to shoot at Minarets or the Muezzins screaming down from them.

Of course the courts forbade the thing after a while... but what's so fascinating about the FPÖ guys in general is that the system always has to catch up with them.

The FPÖ does something, the establishment writes new rules outlawing it and then the FPÖ comes up with the next idea. They seem to run circles around the opposition.

Up next: The FPÖ writes the rules themselves. Remember: These guys are polling at 29% right now, strongest of all parties. Wait how many votes they'll pull after the Euro has crashed and the continental currency of choice will be penicillin and fish hooks.

Methinks, European race realists should spend their vacations serving internships at the FPÖ headquarter. Maybe if we ask nicely, they'll tell us the recipe for their secret sauce!

Franz said...

Sorry to go wholly off opic, but... I just came upon a gimmic from my favorite human beings, the Austrian race realists of the FPÖ. Check out this nifty little flash game:

http://megaswf.com/file/1041200

It's called "Moschee Baba" and was programmed for the regional elections in Styria. The player's job is to shoot at Minarets or the Muezzins screaming down from them.

Of course the courts forbade the thing after a while... but what's so fascinating about the FPÖ guys in general is that the system always has to catch up with them.

The FPÖ does something, the establishment writes new rules outlawing it and then the FPÖ comes up with the next idea. They seem to run circles around the opposition.

Up next: The FPÖ writes the rules themselves. Remember: These guys are polling at 29% right now, strongest of all parties. Wait how many votes they'll pull after the Euro has crashed and the continental currency of choice will be penicillin and fish hooks.

Methinks, European race realists should spend their vacations serving internships at the FPÖ headquarter. Maybe if we ask nicely, they'll tell us the recipe for their secret sauce!

waterboy said...

Epigenetics are for real. In all species. For example dogs who have never heard a gun will be frightened even when one goes off faintly in the distance. I also noted that Germans tend to have unhappy eyes. Maybe I'm imagining that but I dont think so. Check it out. Maybe Franz can tell us.

Anonymous said...

@Barney ..Spot on it's a typical jew trick, inversion of truth through carefully managed manipulation of image and history,Churchill betrayed the whole of our race and dressed it up as noble sacrifice, they have our number don't they? But I know who I wish had one.
Rob

Barney said...

Some good comments since I was last here, especially about getting rid of the electric jew, that brainwashing machine in the corner known as a tv.

joelgp said...

Barney - you say 'the Jews' but bear in mind that only a small proportion of Jews play the role you ascribe to Jews in general.

I agree Joel, but just listen to practically every jew in the entire country/world screaming "anti-septic" (my preferred spelling) whenever one of their satanic "elite" is criticised or caught in the act of committing a crime. They may not be doing it themselves, but they defend the ones that are, which makes them willing accomplices.

Did we ask how many of those refugees in Dresden supported the Nazi party before cremating them alive? That was a REAL holocaust in the literal sense. There may be a few "good jews", but every evil in the world today is the work of a jew, and knowing about their "Kol Nidre" (Google it), we can't afford to trust even one of them.

It's not irrational prejudice that got them thrown out of just about every country they ever infested, and they aren't even Semites (the Palestinians are, among others).

If you get thrown out of one bar, it could be the bar. If you get thrown out of every bar in town, it's time to ask yourself whether YOU could be at fault. Estimates vary, but the general opinion seems to be that these parasites have been thrown out of 109 countries (or perhaps it's 109 separate expulsions). It's not that we hate them just because so many look like gargoyles. They always attack the host country, which eventually has to throw them out as an act of self-defence.

It's not because they're "different". It's because of their intolerable behaviour.

Anonymous said...

My wife certainly had unhappy eyes a couple of nights ago when I got home from the pub two hours later than I had been ordered to.

mr.a

Bemused stare said...

I also noted that Germans tend to have unhappy eyes. Maybe I'm imagining that but I dont think so. Check it out. Maybe Franz can tell us.

Born off the lands but hold the blood. My eyes look happy most of the time. Sometimes I look down and when I'm angry apparently even the kids notice the look. What exactly do you mean? Downtrodden isn't in the picture.

Franz said...

@ mr a

I heard of Epigenetics first in a popular science radio show (I know, I am such a nerd).

The concept fascinated me because a) it meant a vindication for Lamarckian biology which the public school taught me was rubbish and b) explains why the German national character was so much altered by the 30-year war. A question that has vexed me for a long time.

A byproduct of that war certainly was the phenomenon of German Angst and possibily the "sad eyes" look Motoboy has oberved. Although I must say that I don't share that sentiment. Compared to, say, 16-year old Italian school girls most every northern, or central-european person looks like a sad sack.

Epigenetics of course have the potential to open the door for a theory which right now is totally verboten: Namely that human races are not only the product of some random mutations followed by natural selection, but that our gentic makeup has been actively shaped by shared national experiences.

This would of course doom the experiment of globalization and give the nation state, or rather the ethnostate a new scientific grounding. But as I said: The mere thought is verboten.

Besides the huge wiki page and various publications for sale, here is an article on epigenetics which I found rather interesting:
http://www.geo.de/GEO/mensch/medizin/53101.html?t=print

Besides: At this link below you'll find an interesting radio feature on old man Quandt:

http://www.wdr5.de/nachhoeren/zeitzeichen.html

Anonymous said...

Know thine enemy ...

http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=10277

Cheers,
Uncle Nasty

jocomo said...

Me poppimg up again Uncle Nasty. How did I guess - it's the Joos again!

Bemused stare said...

Probably a good guess, Joel.

Anonymous said...

I had a German friend and she said that most Germans have a 'haunted look' in their eyes. I think there's some truth in this. It's also a kind of dissatisfied look, bit of a mixture really.

Anonymous said...

Me poppimg up again Uncle Nasty. How did I guess - it's the Joos again!

If a white girl takes a short cut on her way home and gets assaulted, sane people would say she was foolish.

But they would still lock up the perp.

Heraclitus said...

This Epigenetics thing is utterly fascinating. I'm reading everything I can about it. Great heads-up Franz.

Franz said...

@ Heraclitus

Certainly a merrier field of study than dysgenics...

Thor said...

It's going to be very very interesting to see how this event plays out. It's too early to say but while the initial response would be looking like the opposite of what Breivik wants to me on the ground I hear a lot of people asking pretty fundamental questions. Interesting times.

Anonymous said...

Things may not be quite as bleak as we think ...

This is really interesting:

http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=10271

Minority Rules: Scientists Discover Tipping Point for the Spread of Ideas

All is far from lost for our Folk, not by a long shot--IF we do our part. ~ Frank Roman

In this visualization, we see the tipping point where minority opinion (shown in red) quickly becomes majority opinion. Over time, the minority opinion grows. Once the minority opinion reached 10 percent of the population, the network quickly changes as the minority opinion takes over the original majority opinion (shown in green).

Scientists at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute have found that when just 10 percent of the population holds an unshakable belief, their belief will always be adopted by the majority of the society. The scientists, who are members of the Social Cognitive Networks Academic Research Center (SCNARC) at Rensselaer, used computational and analytical methods to discover the tipping point where a minority belief becomes the majority opinion. The finding has implications for the study and influence of societal interactions ranging from the spread of innovations to the movement of political ideals.


Hmmm ... ten percent, eh? We have some work in front of us.

Cheers,
Uncle nasty

SAVANT said...

I saw this last night on Amren, Uncle Nasty and I see it as a really exciting development. I'll do a full post on iot later.

RegThe Hedge said...

http://www.londonpatriot.org/2011/07/28/norways-enigmatic-%c2%ablone-terrorist%c2%bb/

very interesting.

Franz said...

Again, totally off topic, but has anyone noticed the headlines about the "famine" in Somalia? Supposedly they die like flies over there. Not only from hunger but from general lawlessness and fighting as well.

Now, last weekend I was at a party and chatted to a cop and gun enthusiast. I inquired about the price of ammunition and he told me that 7.62×39mm rounds for the AK go for around €1.50 each.

Spitting a 30-round mag would therefore amount to the expenditure of €45.00. In my neck of the woods, that buys you a first rate meal and plenty of beer to wash it down.

After that, for the whole week, I couldn't stop thinking how amazing it is that we are paying good money to feed a nation that - somehow - always finds sufficient funds to go through myriads of these sinfully expensive bullets each and every day.

Apparently they always have a solid supply of starving, bloated toddlers which they can put on display in order to solicit "aid". Who knows? Perhaps they are actually starving babies on purpose in order to get dramatic photos...

I wonder how much of the aid to Somalia ends up in the hands of Russian and Chinese arms manufacturers? Two nations that obviously have their faults, but certainly no shortage of common sense when it comes to dealing with Erectus.

Tony in VA said...

Franz - no problem. The West does it all. Feeds the fuckers and also gives them cash that they cann divert to buy arms. Personally I'd buy them the most powerful weapons available and let them loose on one another.

Barney said...

I read somewhere that they paint sugar water round the eyes of those starving babies to attract flies for the propaganda/begging photos.

Anonymous said...

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p--5_Benson.html

Read the above , same tactics as today.

Anonymous said...

savant , are you sure that is not a Pentocostal Church area of England as they are kknown in usa as the protestant telaban. just asking

Anonymous said...

BRITAIN YOUR A TRUE RACE OF LIONS, RIP THAT FUCKING SIGN DOWN AND STICK IT IN THEIR HYPOCRITICAL MUSLIM ASSES,

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p--5_Benson.html

Read the above , same tactics as today.


Thank you for that, Anonny. One of the more comprehensive hidden histories of the South African experience.

Admittedly 25 years old, none of the core arguments therein can be disputed.

One thing I do find interesting, though, is that the author, Ivor Benson, was at one stage the chief assistant editor of the Rand Daily Mail.

The RDM was virulently anti-government and, I might add, anti-white. They were known for it. Sort of the South African equivalent of the Grauniad.

A very interesting quote buried in the body of the article:-

"What Butler, Hobson and other critics of the Milner policy saw in South Africa was something new and unprecedented: fraudulent misrepresentation on a colossal scale used by British leaders against their own people and their own parliament as a means of drawing them into a planned war.

Dishonorable conduct was being used for the first time as an instrument of imperial policy."


... and continuing this policy into the Great War, World War II and all that, this is where it gets one. Where England is now.

Cheers,
Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

England has never really existed officially. It's never had a constitution of its own and its working classes have been deluded with grandeur since the days of Napoleon.

The cream of "England's" men - indeed British men were wiped out in 2 fratricidal wars with their German cousins.

One look at the decay and variables within the population of any British (especially English) city today avails Hitler of having the last laugh at anyone who hated him.

Anonymous said...

http://www.vernoncoleman.com/readerandpatriot.htm

Henry IX said...

You may be right but Hitler also destroyed the cream of German men and many other Europeans. WE are the losers.

Anonymous said...

It was two tiny islands, the islands of Ireland and Great Britain, which dominated nearly a quarter of the globe. At the time Ireland was part of what was then Britain. Misinformation about this point infuriates me.

Also, if the "Anglo-Saxons" are more responsible for cultural achievements, it is probably because there were more of them than Irish, Scots and Welsh.

And, genetic data show that the present day population of English is not much different to the other 3 native populations of the British Isles - there is a small bit of admixture from the European continent which is absent in the other populations, but over all, the English populations is more similar to the Scots, Welsh and Irish than any other population. So, the cultural achievements probably could have occured if Britain was all Celtic.

J Bull said...

I dont think anyone disputes that all 4 British nations are of very similar stock. And I take also the point about English numbers being much bigger. But seems to me that the achievements were mainly due to ANglo-Saxon organisational strength. The Celts seemed to be a bit, well, like Celts!! (LoL!)

Anonymous said...

An interesting article from the Gruaniad on the British racial breakdown. http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/may/18/ethnic-population-england-wales

Total bullshit in my view. Less than 20% of Bradford is 'Asian'? More like 80%. We're being lied to yet again.

Kevin said...

All the talk that the English/British are just biding their time and boy oh boy when the straw finally breaks the camel's back then watch out world 'cos we'll get medieval on everyone's ass and take the country by the scruff of the neck and start calling a spade a frickin shovel and . . . it's just talk, bluster. We're very nice people. We'll not cause a scene

gala said...

Our ancestors have given us so much - the vote (use it!!!), seperation of church and state, equality, freedom etc. It took the best part of 1000 years. Of course its not all perfect but the values we inherit are so precious. It is a travesty to all who have gone before us for this generation to let it go.

john said...

"separation of church and state" is a major part of the problem gala.

Anonymous said...

J-Bull - I dont think anyone disputes that all 4 British nations are of very similar stock. And I take also the point about English numbers being much bigger. But seems to me that the achievements were mainly due to ANglo-Saxon organisational strength. The Celts seemed to be a bit, well, like Celts!! (LoL!)

I think you have to give credit to the Irish for converting the English to Christianity and winning the Empire. The Empire was won by the Irish, run by the Scots and lost by the English! Faugh a Ballagh agus Erin Go Bragh!

Jeremy said...

The mots accurate summary of the various ethnic contributions would be that the stranegths of the four British nations complemented each other. Unlikely that Britain would have been what it was - yes, WAS - without the Celts.

Anonymous said...

Shariah? We don't like it.
Rock the kasbah