Sunday, 22 May 2011

Queen's visit over. Whew!

Well, it’s over, and nothing went wrong. In fact, everything went spectacularly right. HRH was a wow, with no fewer than 95% of respondents in a Sunday Independent poll answering in the affirmative to the question ‘do you think the Queen won the hearts of the Irish people?’

But many of us worried. You see, Paddy has a dreadful habit of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Like…. we’d arrange a superb pageant for Her visit to Croke Park, everything planned and rehearsed to the last detail, only to discover that nobody remembered to bring the key to open the place up on the day.

But the Paddy Factor worked in out favour too. A group of worthies from Mayo had the brilliant idea of letting a few dozen duck eggs go bad over a period of about three weeks, at which stage they’d be used to pelt the Royal cavalcade. But a few of them got broken during the bus trip from the bogs of Mayo, letting off such a stench that the cunning ploy was discovered, and the miscreants apprehended.

And our courts and daft judges were always a danger. For instance the cops could have intercepted a couple of well-known IRA nutcases from the North, armed with howitzers and SAMs. Said nutcases would appeal, based on the fact that the cops had their caps on backwards, and filled out the charge sheet in blue, not black ink. At which point the nutcases would be released back into the wild, complete with armaments, by the stupid fucking useless judges.

Thankfully, everything went wonderfully. A pity though that she wasn’t allowed to mingle with the people. Her only chance was in my own Rebel Cork, and she did one thing that amazed me. A stall holder in the market made some humourous comment to her about the pig in the picture. I expected her response to be along the lines of a chilly ‘one is amused’. Instead there was a hearty belly laugh like you’d hear in a pub.

How could we not warm to her?


Anonymous said...

Couldn't her majesty, in theory at least, do a lot to turn things around?

white rose said...

A great success. I think your a bt hard on your fellow Paddies. You guys did a superb job!

Rob said...

The Royal Family have done nothing to halt the destruction of Britain over the last few decades. They have the moral authority to be listened to, if they chose to speak up.

Anonymous said...

Rob - she'd have been torn to shreds by the MSM and political quislings. Look what happened to Prince Philip when he made a few innocent non-PC remarks.

Anonymous said...

I believe Charles spoke up about monstrous carbuncles but because the journos were pals of the carbunglers he was ridiculed.

Irish in Paris said...

What a wonderful visit! It was an especially considerate touch of Her Majesty to wear a leprechaun costume, complete with hat, to put the natives at ease.

F McCool said...

Look, I'm sure HRH looks at us a bit like unpredictable leprachauns, but after all we did blow up her favourite uncle and whatever we say about it, the 1916 Rising was against the legitimate authority, and during wartime at that.

Let's try to make the best of it all round.

Shaunantijihad said...

She used her authority twice over the UK Government, not to stop the treasonous transfer of sovereignty to the EU or the colonisation of the islands, but to overrule Thatcher who did not want to hand over Rhodesia to the savages and to force Thatcher to impose sanctions on Apartheid.

She's a multicult, liberal, pc idiot.

Anonymous said...

I'll tell you "why" my Irish brothers and sisters shouldn't warm to that bitch! >.<

What's wrong with some of you?? I'm of Irish blood sitting way over here in America and you're letting the home of my ancestors get ruined! You're letting Elizardbeast and her ilk come in like she deserves worship after what her unhuman line has done to our people! ONE MILLION suffered and died because of them. So many more ended up leaving Ireland just so they could live! That is how my linage ended up here in America and it pisses me off I am not in the homeland of my ancestors! You should all read 'A History of Ireland' by Peter and Fiona Somerset-Fry. Never get on your bony knees to those creatures! Ask yourself how it is they even came to be in the place they are and why people are stupid enough to allow them to own everything and give all of their money to them. Ever wonder why they are so "special"? It's more than most could ever get their heads wrapped around. Now get out there and save Ireland from the evil that's going on!

J Bull said...

But she also symbolises the traditional Britain. anything that does that vis-a-vis the Nu Labour horror has got to be supported.

Anonymous said...

The queen is a tourist's anachronism, not worthy of serious criticsm or praise. Paris gets more tourists than London because they evicted the parasites from 'their' palaces so Yanks could have a look at a royal bog. Britain's slow on the uptake as usual.

As much as I admire what the Irish did to resist Britain, I do wish they (some) would stop whinging about what happened before. If we all did the same nobody would buy Jap or German cars. We do have far WORSE things to worry about nowadays. For instance, do you want your daughter carrying on like Ms Ireland or ending up in Paki fast foods like those stray girls in Blackpool. I have a horrible feeling royalty will soon be the least of our problems.

Anonymous said...

Correction: I meant to type FIVE MILLION starved. In the heat of the moment I made a typo. They taxed the very air the Irish were breathing! Why do you think those old cottages have such small windows? They seized all of the farm animals! Any of you worshipping that old hag Elizardbeast ought to be ashamed of yourself. The Irish are not their only victims either. Trust me, the Royal family HATES the Irish and wants us dead to this day. It is no coincidence that all of these "visits" are happening in May. Start looking up their little Luciferian holiday meanings. There are deeper things behind these quaint little "visits".

Anonymous said...

10:29 torn to shreds? I know young lads how have been blown to bit's. The monarchy are supposed to 'lead' by example. Their personal standing amongst a bunch of left wing hacks shouldn't rank very high on their list of priorities. That of their people and Nation should.

Another Rob

Heraclitus said...

@anon 19.17. A few answers here. Even if it had been a deliberate genocide - it certainly was NOT - it happened over one and half centuries ago. For Christ sake - I don't normally swear - but for Christ sake isn't it time for us to get over it?

Look what the Americans did to the Vietnamese, and now they're welcomed as if nothing had happened. And that's within living memory.

And in any event the Queen has personally had nothing whatsoever to do with this. How could she?

The problem with Ireland is not the English, it's the mass of black and Muslim invaders who are changing the nature of our country as we look, appalled.

Please, let's put all this nonsense behind us. I can tell you that the attitudes of Irish Americans are much more negative than the Irish living here now. Move on.

Dave C said...

I'd go along with the 150 years lets put it behind us argument. HRH's visit was as genuine as Hope n' Changes was contrived.

Corkonian said...

During the Famine, holy Catholic Irish like the Honan's kept their grain ships outside Cork Harbour waiting for the price to go up as 'their' people fell further into starvation.

Dommie said...

Ireland now accept England as a friend on Facebook!!

Anonymous said...

First off, it isn't the English people I'm talking about. It is the Royals. The controlling elite. They are as evil as it gets once you really start researching what they are all about. Sorry, I don't think forgetting what was done to our ancestors should ever happen. They deserve more than that. Those were our people! It is in our blood to care about our ancestors. It's not just the Jews scheming to put all of those Muslims and Negroids (Mexicans too in the USA) into White countries to destroy us, the British Royals have a whole lot to do with it too. Guess what, just about every president we have had are related to each other and to the Royals. They are not your friends. In the past strange black boys have been in her chambers too. Look up "Groom of the Stool" as well. THAT is how much higher they think they are above the "commoner".

Anonymous said...

Another thing, the Irish Holocaust WAS intentional and until people start researching and reading books that show the true facts, don't sit there and say it wasn't.

Dr. Wassell said...

It seems to be the case all right that the Queen intervened to stymie Thatcher when she wanted to limit immigration, and Powell too. It seems she sees the Commonwealth as the most important, not Britain.

Anonymous said...

I can tell you that the attitudes of Irish Americans are much more negative than the Irish living here now.

If we stop buying t-shirts with our Irish surnames on them, what's left of your economy will collapse -- again.

The past two days have been great, Savant. Yesterday I discovered Irish whiskey cheddar. Today I discovered Irish whiskey cheddar and spam.

Anonymous said...

"Nobody more Irish than Obama" is a great big middle finger to every white outside of Ireland who claims Irish descent.

But I doubt the Irish thought of that, any more than John Kerry realized he insulted all military people and their families when he told students that if they didn't study they'd end up in Iraq.

Anonymous said...

I don't think much should be expected from the queen:
"Modest Queen covers her head and goes barefoot to the mosque in Abu Dhabi"
(Pay special attention to the first picture.)

Would it have been so hard to say "No, thanks, I won't enter the mosque, because I won't take my shoes off in public when on an official state visit."?

Ironman said...

@anon 5.56. Good point. She could have just said I'm not going. Or not washed her feet for a few days!

Anonymous said...

I am afraid that I agree with the majority of the posters here.

Let us never forget that Lizzie the second, is first and foremost a Bilderberger, and therefore an enabler -- no different to the royal arselickers who, up 'till Eddie the first, enabled the tribe from Normandy to get their feet well and truly under the table.

1066:- William the Conk invites tribe.

1290:- Eddie the Oneth boots tribe back out.

1656:- Ollie the Dim invites the fuckers back.

It has often been said that Elizabeth (the real one) managed to pull England right only because she did not have the brethren to stab her in the back ... a situation unhappily remedied by dumbfuck Cromwell who honestly believed that a good healthy contingent of Hebrews would hasten the long-predicted appearance of the Messiah.

I point you to Gilad Atzmon:-


Jeremy said...

A lot of negative comments here. Whatever else is said, the visit, and her reception, has improved things enormously between Ireland and England. Also it seems there are moves for the 2 countries to provide a united anti_europe front from now on. Can't be bad.

James McGrath said...

I'm amazed that Cork was so warn to 'The Queen', I remember when those words were spat through gritted teeth or whispered to small children to scare them!

How we are growing up!

Anonymous said...

hi here in america we cant thank our british allies enough we looked for friends and they were the only ones to step forward to assist us in iraq, god bless the queen and the whole of britain.

Anonymous said...

19;13 you are a st, pats day plastic paddy and a bull shit narrow back, fuck you

Anonymous said...

19;13 you are a st, pats day plastic paddy and a bull shit narrow back, fuck you

Kit said...

It's a good and important thing for Ireland and England to have normal, friendly relations.

The Irish and the English people have so much in common, it is idiotic to obsess about what happened centuries ago.

It is curious how the Irish people have a much more mature attitude to this that the 'Irish Americans' who so often sound like intemperate morons. You Yanks don't live over here, stop deliberately trying to stir up trouble in other peoples countries. Just because your Great Grandmother came from Ireland does NOT make you Irish and it does NOT give you the right to seek to keep Ireland in a perpetual state of bitterness and misery.

God Bless Ireland and God Bless England and if you're not Irish or English then shut the F up and stop deliberately stirring up trouble between two European peoples.

Anonymous said...

@ Anonymous 23 May 2011 19:13

I'm still waiting for an apology from you Irish for your many cross channel ventures into British lands to pillage, murder and rape innocent Britons.
You not only took away a good many 100 thousand or so British people, but had the temerity to take OUR St. Patricius who was to you but a slave.

Combine the years of uncertainty felt by coastal settlements up and down the West coasts of Britain and the fact you imposed upon us an alien religion called 'Christianity' with all its adulation for Jews, and the horror which is St.Paddies day, and I say you should grovel at our feet that we never knew what a concentration camp was.

It does all sound rather silly. I say let bygones be bygones and concentrate on the real enemy, not some 80year old pensioner who isn't even British.


Philip Grey said...

Beorn: Amen to that. FFS - we can all go back centuries to locate grievances. There's nothing at all problematic between the two peoples and let that grow and mature.

Philip Grey said...

And Kit - I meant to include you in my encomium. Sensibly spoken.

Tostig said...

It makes me sad that some Americans wish to interfere in Anglo-Irish matters. I will guarantee that most Irish-Americans are not Irish, they are instead a mixture of alsorts of European strains - nothing wrong with that.
I am English and old. However, I have met a lot of Irish people in my time who were some of the most peaceful people that I was proud to know - no rage in side them unlike one of the American-Irish contributors.

john said...

Obviously "anonymous/beorn" knows nothing of history OR Christianity. And Kit? "Kit" knows less and is merely a tool of the left. Actually, just a tool. He IS correct though that the Irish and English people are kin and SHOULD get along. If the English government would just end their occupation, we probably could.
Regrettably I fear, Uncle Nasty with whom I nearly always agree, does not understand Christianity either. No Christian would knowingly support importation of the anti-Christ jew. And, the jew themselves admit they are not Hebrews - see the jewish almanac - but use the term to the dumb goy to garner support for their parasitic nation and to gain access to western nations where they may prosper at our expense.
Also, PLEASE do not equate catholics/catholicism with Christianity - they are anathema to each other.
And Mr Heraclitus, American money is ALL that is welcomed in vietnam. Like everywhere else. At least americans can claim innocence in the vietnam debacle ; our "leaders" were merely tools of the UN/ zog's etc. The queen can not claim the same in the English insistence upon occupying Ireland. But Rob is right - even if one doesnt have a sense of history or justice for the Irish, one would still be hard pressed to warm up to hrh , she could and should use her position to help the standing of the citizens of the "UK", but does not. Too bad too, cause you would think that anyone who apparently likes Corgis so much CANT be all bad...

Anonymous said...

@Anon 5/23 19:13. You sound like a typical American Negro who still laments about his ancestors in slavery. How far back do you (& the Negroes) want to bitch about what happened in the past? It's history, dude. Get over it.

Anonymous said...

Never having lived anywhere where a monarchy had any influence at all, I am amazed at the depths of feeling, both pro and con, regarding the royal visit.

Most illuminating.

Uncle Nasty

B Boru said...

The Queen bowed her head and acknowledged the men who were executied in 1916. This has gone down in irish myth, but remember this was an uprising against the LEGAL AUTHORITY at the time (Britain and Ireland were ONE COUNTRY) at a time when that country was embroiled in a foreign war.

Had this occurred anywhere else the response would have been truly terrible. The authorities shot I think six of the ringleaders. Amazing forebearance in my view.

I say this as a 65 year-old Irishman.

Anonymous said...

@ John: It seems you don't know the difference between an English government and a British government.

The last I checked, the English were speaking a language closer to Frisian than modern English the last time we had our own "government".

1066 anyone?

It was that very language that last heard us English speak a dedication to an indigenous northern European deity also.

Ireland and Christianity have much to answer for.

tut tut.


Anonymous said...

As a American who has visited both Ireland and England I for one can say that I have found that over there they get along better then the American Irish also known as narrow backs do in America, for years i have worked amongst Irish Americans and never in my life have i seen such backstabbing,jealousy, envy, running to the boss behind ones back and the list goes on.I have seen young Irish guys off the boat come on the job site and the old shit starts my grandma was from Galway blah blah blah. once this young irishman started his own const. company and begin to build homes he was called a fucking TURKEY CUNT, and fired by the Irish American boss, so the story goes on,never heard a Englishman doing that on the sites in Britain, it was alaways Good on ya Paddy lets go for a pint,

Anonymous said...

but had the temerity to take OUR St. Patricius who was to you but a slave.
fact you imposed upon us an alien religion called 'Christianity' with all its adulation for Jews,

Like which is it dude?

fact you imposed upon us an alien religion called 'Christianity' with all its adulation for Jews,

Boundary error?

Anonymous said...

@anon 4.58. Some English 19th centure writer wrote 'the Irish are an honest nation: They nevr speak well of one another'

Anonymous said...

Christ,where to start?.Where to stop?.
Over the last two weeks I wanted to vomit listening politicians(Irish),media commentators(Irish and stupid British)and apologists for the Provos(Irish and stupid British)going on and on about how the Queens visit "heals the wounds and normalizes relations"between the two countries.

Well,fuck that!.I don't want normal relations with Britain.I want our relations to be exactly as they are now:probably closer and more entwined than any other two countries on the planet.
Contrary to what one would gather from the above gobshites,this country has not been at war with Britain for the last 40 years.A few hundred psychopathic criminals believed they were fighting a war albeit supported by several thousand lovers of evil.evil they were and evil they still are.

As for me and most Irish and British people I know,well we will get on just fine together.We don't need to be healed,we don't need to be normalized.
We like each other.


Franz said...

I am utterly stunned by the passions which the Savant incited by means of this post. Due to being born in a no-monarchy-zone, I can't muster such emotional force as many of the commenters here have displayed.

I venture a guess that the Queen and her family are neither power mad Bilderberger-meet-two-legged-lizard types, nor are they anything special to write home about.

They probably suffer from a lot of heredetary diseases due to inbreeding, like many aristocratic clans do. The Prince of Wales certainly lends weight to that suspicion of mine. The poor sod is physically deformed as well as rather dim in the brain department.

As redeeming feautures the Windsors have Phillip's great sense of humor and the amazing derriere of their new in-law Pippa.

Net-net, that amounts to neutral. As I said: This outpouring of emotion is rather bewildering...

P.S. A compilation of Philip's greatest quotes:

1. China State Visit, 1986
If you stay here much longer, you’ll all be slitty-eyed.

2. To a blind women with a guide
“Do you know they have eating dogs for the anorexic now?”

3. To an Aborigine in Australia
“Do you still throw spears at each other?”

4. To his wife, the Queen, after her coronation
“Where did you get the hat?”

5. When asked if he would like to visit the Soviet Union
“The bastards murdered half my family”

6. To a Briton in Budapest
“You can’t have been here that long – you haven’t got a pot belly.”

7. To a driving instructor in Scotland
“How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to get them through the test?”

8. After the Dunblane shooting
“If a cricketer, for instance, suddenly decided to go into a school and batter a lot of people to death with a cricket bat, which he could do very easily, I mean, are you going to ban cricket bats?”

9. To a student who had been trekking in Papua New Guinea
“You managed not to get eaten, then?”

10. To Elton John after hearing Elton had sold his Gold Aston Martin
“Oh, it’s you that owns that ghastly car – we often see it when driving to Windsor Castle.”

As I said: Great sense of humour on that guy...

Thor said...

Yeah, Prince Phil is great. Seems not to give a sh*t about anyone.

Kit said...

@ John

You are an ignorant fool.
There is no 'English occupation'. If you knew anything at all about the matter you would know that there are no english in Northern Ireland. There are Unionist Irish and Nationalist Irish. Northern Ireland remains part of the UK because the majority of the Irish there want that to remain so.

Scum like you want to stir up the old hatreds.

Scum like you want to return us to the old bigotries.

Scum like you want to return us to the old violence.

Scum like you want to return us to the old terrorism.

I'm friends with someone whose Grandfather was General Secretary of the SDLP. I'm friends with someone whose Grandfather was head of the Belfast Orange Lodge.

We have different traditions but we are now able to live together without the bitter hatreds.

And scum like you want to return us to the days of hatred and sectarian viciousness.

And you call me a 'tool of the left'! You are trying to poison the relations between two European peoples. Scum like you are the enemy of the Irish and the English.

You are a Leftist Tool.

God Bless Ireland and God Bless England and may they long be friends and my Good curse those who deliberately choose to stir up old hatreds between them.

Corkonian said...

Well said Kit. I'm from the Rebel City (Cork) where most of the fighting took place and which the black & tans burned down. To hell with all of that. That's history. The Irish and the English mix together as if there's no difference between us whatsoever. We're not even aware of our English friends being English. There's no reason whatsoever for any diffeences between us.

And yes, it is easy to stir up the old antoginisms. John, I guess your views are sincerely felt but we all need to move on. 95% of Irish people have already moved on, the English did generations ago.

Anonymous said...

There's no need to 'normalise' relations between Irish and English people - they're perfectly normal as it is. It's always a few malcontents who cause the problem. Like those thugs demonstrating against the Queen, and they all wearing jerseys of English Premiership clubs!

Anonymous said...

Franz said...

I am utterly stunned by the passions which the Savant incited by means of this post. Due to being born in a no-monarchy-zone, I can't muster such emotional force as many of the commenters here have displayed.

I know how you feel, Franz. Coming from a republic (well, more a kleptocracy, now) I also watched, dumbfounded, as so many commenters laid into each other.

I was put in mind of one of the best jokes from one of the Pink Panther movies ...

Clouseau: (very heavy fake French accent):- "There is a time for laughing and a time for not laughing ... and this is not one of them."

Pretty much the same for commenting, here.

I will lay low. Very low.

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

It is NOT the same as the whiny negro about slavery to want the world to know the TRUTH about the Irish Holocaust. It wasn't a famine when food was purposely taken and kept away. it was a STARVATION. Guess how flipping wonderful it is to sit in an American classroom and only hear about slavery and the Jewish holocaust, and nothing about anyone else. What little we hear about anything else are lies or omitted altogether.

Of course all White people including the Irish and English should get along and come together, but the Royals are on neither side doing what they do. People SHOULD be educated on what they did to the Irish and many others including the people of India. They are very evil creatures, and until you do your homework on everything under the Sun as I try to do, don't throw stones. Don't you realize the the Royals really own America? She owns all of the land around the Denver International Airport for one. There is a reason our flags are the same damn colors but styled differently. Some of you better start researching symbology and the origins of things. Ever wonder why we go to "court" here in the states and elsewhere? Who has and has always had the "courts"? The Royals. It goes on and on from there.

Get along, but don't EVER forget what the Royals did to people and what they are STILL doing to people that you might not know about. It is also wise when a negro starts up with the slavery to know your own damn history so you can educate them that they aren't the only ones who have suffered. Same with the Jews. Our ancestors went through hell as well and it is never talked about. All we hear about is "The Jewish Holocaust", "Bad Whites enslaving poor blacks", and people out in the world truly don't know what has happened to our own, including the Bolshevik Revolution and Dresden. THAT is why I "whine" about the TRUTH of my Irish Ancestors, and yes, I am Irish by blood, DNA, genetics, and heart, so don't tell ME that I'm not Irish. A piece of land isn't all it takes to make an Irishman, just like standing in a garage doesn't make you a car. I want Ireland to stay out of this diversity mess with negroes because it is a beautiful place with a lot of ancient history and the lands where civilization started if you want to know the truth and do your research. The New World Order group, (yes that includes the Royals) are set on ruining all White countries. They aren't what they appear. Welcoming them into a place they are helping destroy is a very bad thing in my eyes.

Start reading and watching everything you can that is not mainstream. You aren't going to get the truth any other way.

Anonymous said...

While I am at it, this is truly fascinating.

A blow-by-blow of the financial chicanery that went a long way to landing us where we are.

The Four Horsemen of Banking

Very Apt, I think. A quote:-

If you want to know where the true power center of the world lies, follow the money - cui bono. According to Global Finance magazine, as of 2010 the world’s five biggest banks are all based in Rothschild fiefdoms UK and France.

They are the French BNP ($3 trillion in assets), Royal Bank of Scotland ($2.7 trillion), the UK-based HSBC Holdings ($2.4 trillion), the French Credit Agricole ($2.2 trillion) and the British Barclays ($2.2 trillion).

In the US, a combination of deregulation and merger-mania has left four mega-banks ruling the financial roost. According to Global Finance, as of 2010 they are Bank of America ($2.2 trillion), JP Morgan Chase ($2 trillion), Citigroup ($1.9 trillion) and Wells Fargo ($1.25 trillion). I have dubbed them the Four Horsemen of US banking.

Over 18 trillion buckazoids by my calculation ... and counting.

It's a good concise read.

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

Just can't shut up, me.

A story did the rounds about the Queen Mother's post-WWII tour of Kenya. it goes that she was told she'd be reviewing the KAR or King's African Rifles regiment.

Upon polite inquiry she was told that it was a Kenyan regiment consisting of white officers with black privates.

"Hmmm ... She said. "Some strange tropical disease?"

My mother told me that one.


Anonymous said...

They are British the unionists are. Do not dare call them Irish. ;-0 (unless they consent to be called so but expect consent to be withdrawn for no reason at all ;-) :-))

Heraclitus said...

@anon 2.58. You make some very good points and I agree with you for the most part. And yes, it seems whites cannot be deemed to have suffered ever, it's all about us inflicting the suffering.

However, the white race and white civilization are under existential attack. We must stick together as far as possible. The things you mention did happen IN HISTORY. There's no sense or fairness in pinning that onto the current Queen who had nothing whatsoever to do with it. Yes, maybe she could have spoken out a bit about mass immmigration etc. but she has to be very very careful about what she says.

For me as an Irishman I say the visit is all good, no bad at all.

Heraclitus said...

@anon 11.07. Look, we're all British. Our genes say so, if nothing else. Are you seriously suggesting that the Englsih are more like the Scots than we are?

Kit said...

@anon 11.07.

All the Unionists I know are very proud of being BOTH Irish and British. (and I know an awful lot of them)

Sean the Leprechaun said...

@anon 2:58
So, let me get this straight, if I were to purchase the land surrounding Denver Intl Airport, I'd er...own the United States?

The Queen owns the USA? Really?

Sorry, but your whole diatribe is shot down when you come out with such utter, obvious crap!

Even if the British royals owned a third of US real-estate (and they clearly don't), that wouldn't make them "owners" of the USA.

The shape-shifting lizards have taken more credibility, in my book, than your wild assertions.

As for being as Irish as you say you are, no you're not. Sorry. Not one bit at all. You're American. Nothing wrong with that, but you're not Irish. National identity is far more about shared culture and world-view, and the desired immersion within that culture, than merely a matter of DNA. Certainly ethnicity is important, but cultural and indigenous experience, on a country's ACTUAL soil, is what makes one a true SON OF THE SOIL.

And you're not that.

Anonymous said...

To Sean the Leprechaun I have just one word, well two. FUCK YOU!

Anonymous said...

Well " Sean the Leprechaun ", you obviously haven't done your homework. I used the DIA land as one example. I bet YOU aren't Irish. No REAL Irishman would sit there and say DNA is not what makes us Irish, but standing on a piece of ground is. You might as well say that all of those negroid babies being born in Ireland makes them Irish. I am not the anonymous who said "Fuck You", but I'll definately give you a second one.

Sean the Leprechaun said...

Yawn, whenever anyone's stymied for something sensible to say, they come out with "Fuck You!", or whatever else their pea-brains can think of.

Is that the best you can do?

To anon 13:22, I think I made a clear reference to ethnicity and being of INDIGENOUS stock. So, no, I'm not referring to the present day ethnic influx into Ireland, or anywhere else in Europe, either, with regards to imbibing and being at one (homogenous) with the prevailing culture.

There are people of European descent living far-flung all over the World, including the USA. Are Germans, Poles, Russians, Scots, English, French, Dutch etc. etc. now living for many generations in the USA American, or rather defined by their countries of origin? I think the answer is obvious, regardless of pc-labelling. And therefore the same applies to the Irish as well. This is also true, of course, of Australia, Canada, New Zealand and South Africa.

One can be proud of one's roots, of course, but that in itself doesn't make one a son of the soil, from a country where one's forebears departed a number of generations previous.

By the way, there were Norman settlers in Ireland many centuries ago, and they are thoroughly Irish. Never mind DNA.

Likewise, Huguenots that settled in England and South Africa (amongst other countries) are decidedly no longer French, but have taken the nationality of their adopted lands - not just in law, but in culture and loyalty.

As for the British Royals owning the USA, ditto what I said before. Your credibility lies in tatters when you talk such utter crap.

For the record, I'm totally indifferent to the Royal family.

Tony said...

Leprechaun - you make sense man. Let's face it.

Anonymous said...

@ Anon: 25 May 2011 06:48

"Which was it?"

It was the one where I said the Gaelic Irish took a Brythonic Briton.

Apologies if it seemed I transcended ethnicity.


Anonymous said...

P.S. I love how the combination of 'Queen', 'England', Ireland', 'The Troubles' and 'history' soon descends into talk of Leprechauns.

A 'reductio ad Leprechaum' or 'Leprechaunian Law'?

I'm still debating.


Anonymous said...

incredible to watch the citizens of the rebel county bowing and scraping to her majesty, never thought i would see that sort of thing from you Savant , You Complain about africans taking over ireland and yet you bow before parasites who have done more to destroy Ireland than any nigerians ever will . I have finally realised that the biggest scum in ireland today are the IRISH , brainless ignorant subservient cultureless Mindless bog trotters and peasants the lot of them .

And i am going to adopt a couple of african babies to help speed up the process of extermination of the leprechauns .

Evolution demands it !

Anonymous said...

anon 0.22. What damage exactly has the Queen caused Ireland? Nothing. You're completely over the top. And it's not grovelling. Giving someone a civilized welcome is not grovelling.

Euroserf said...

The posters saying that the Queen could not have prevented the various destructuve laws of the last 50 years are simply wrong. She has the constitutional power to veto any law brought before her. But she did nothing.

Anonymous said...

Re: "Anonymous 00:22" Yes, I'm seeing the same. What the hell happened to the Irish? What is this, "Let's be all so nice and welcoming to INVADERS who will kill and rape your women and children" crap? It is so damn sad to know the one place I've held in high regard is going down the f-ing tubes like the rest of the planet because "Fighting Irish" have become so... NICE. (Roll Eyes)

Sad that I have more Irish spunk in America than you guys. GD it, get off the Guinness beer and wake up. I also can't believe that you didn't take that crappy outfit the "queen" wore as an insult. You all better start researching those people who are the enemy of all of us.

northern athiest said...

anon 18.45. The 'people who are the enemy of us all' are not ordinary English people or even extra ordinary ones such as the Queen. We must fight the bastards who are foisting multi-kult, mass immigration and race-mixing on us. Not fight our fellow white neighbors.

Sean the Leprechaun said...

Hell hath no fury like a Plastic Paddy scorned...

Listen up, you so-called Irish American tossers, the people that actually LIVE in Ireland (and are IRISH) have a helluva lot more say about their country, and it's foreign policy, than you pseudo-Irish wannabees.

Just how Irish are you lot, anyway? White America has always been a melting pot for the immigrant European peoples, or are the Irish unique in ethnic intermarriage?

The arrogance of you lot is astounding, and quite non-Irish, and therefore merely confirms what I've said before: you are Yanks, not Irish.

And since when did "Irish"-Americans define for ALL expatriate Irish emigres what it means to be an "Irishman" abroad?

Arrogance, sheer arrogance. A trait once held by the Brits, but now thoroughly American. Ergo, you lot are American.

Now, piss off.

SAVANT said...

Girls! girls! Girls! Here I play the unaccustomed role of the peace-maker. Remember we're all on the same side here. We know who's destroying our respective countries so let's save our anger for them.

Anonymous said...

it's Me again Anon 0.22

Sorry but i'm Irish , Both my parents hail from munster , i can trace their people back to The great Starvation foisted on them by Lizzie the 2nds great grandmother ,and i know they were here before that . This is not the first time over the last number of weeks where i have encountered so called nationalists shoving their tongues in the royal familys crack , the Irish regimes are doing a wonderful job of destroying Ireland's unique identity , and top of the list is their continueance of british policies in Ireland , the good friday agreement now means a REunited Ireland is further away than ever . Closer ties with The Uk means paying off the private gambling debts of The international bankers , we see now that any foreign national who gets a visa to travel to the uk no longer needs a seperate visa to travel to Ireland . When we look across the water to that miseable shithole of a country ruled by the coburg family we see a mirror image here , mass immigration , slave labour , subservient peasants who would bow and scrape before a relic of the dark ages , and all carefully stage managed by the so called media ! The UDA attending a wreath laying service to honour Irelands war dead was a particularly vomitous moment , and all on the day after the 37th anniversary of the dublin and monaghan bombings where 34 civillians were slaughter with three no warning car bombs . I Now realise that many people who oppose mass immigration are really racists , pure and simple , they'll go for a pint with an ex para , but christ do they hate Niggers !

Death to leprechauns .

Anonymous said...

"Sean the Leprechaun" You must be a jew or something. How DARE you talk like you you do with your nasty snaggle-tooth mouth! I bet I'm not the only one who would beat your ass in the real world. I bet $100 you aren't IRISH by DNA, Genetics, or soul. In fact you little twerp, you're ruining Ireland, so shut the hell up and get F out of there, worthless weirdo! No better than a negroid you are.

Anonymous said...

Sean the Fucking Leprechaun - your a bollocks, pure and simple. Well, simple anyway. Asshole!

Sean the Leprechaun said...

Ok, first of, let me withdraw the "piss off" at the end of my last comment - I regretted it as soon as I posted. Online insults are pathetic.

Listen up, you guys need to chill a little bit. Some of you are beginning to sound a tad unhinged. Get a sense of humour - it's a good Irish quality.

I'm not anti American or anti Irish-American. I'm purely having a go at those individuals who, not living in Ireland, are deciding (or demanding, even) how the Irish should live and behave in their own country. Is that being unreasonable? I'm not referring to merely having an opinion, which everyone's entitled to, but language that goes beyond that.

The same applies, of course, to any other country and it's expat descendents.

Where did I say that I was Irish? My "name?" That was a joke. And where did I suggest that I lived in Ireland? I used Ireland as an example, as that's where the discussion is about, but it applies equally to any other country.

For the record, I don't live in Ireland. I do, in fact, have Irish ancestry on both sides of my family. I'm roughly one quarter of Irish stock, but also have English, Dutch and German blood. Though proud of my roots, I define myself by the country of my birth and upbringing, and not by any of the above.

Coming from one of the "colonies", as it were, I think it's fair enough for me to say that Whites living in these places have amalgamated together - so several generations on, no-one from European ancestry is likely to be purely of a single country's blood.

Anon 3:30. You'd "beat my ass" would you? I wouldn't bank on it, buddy - I'm a very large Leprechaun. Oh, and please send me my $100.

Clogheen said...

@Leprechaun - as an Irishman born and bread I can offer you my support. I can strongly relate to irish-Americans and welcome their ongoing support for our country. However, I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that they're shouting at us in extreme and insulting langauge as to what to do. That doesn't help and in fact puts people here off. Let's alljust lower the pitch of the discussion a bit and see how it goes.

S. Thompson said...

As an Irishman it absolutely sickened me how the IRA/Sinn Fein killed other white men and yet supported groups like the ANC in SA. Yet white men seem to enjoy killing each other. In the Boer War the British and Dutch killed each other in a barbaric manner while the black people proliferated around them. Looking back now, what did that conflict achieve?

Never forget your race. BJ Vorster did this when he withdrew support for Rhodesia near the end of the Bush War. He thought this would placate the African countries and remove the some of the international sanctions. Both countries are now being flushed down the toilet.

The US carried out bombing raids on Serbs in an indiscriminate manner. Yet in the Middle eastern wars respect for civilians is at the top of the agenda. If anything this retarded conflict has induced further population growth in these countries.

Anonymous said...

Well said S. Thompson. I think yours should be the last word on this.

Anonymous said...

And I will pop my head above the parapet here to say ...

Ah! The Oirish. Nothin' loik a good foight.

I'm reminded of a joke very popular in South Africa in the seventies.

A pub band, during a break asked the audience for requests.
"Do something Irish!!" Shouted someone in the crowd.
So they fire-bombed the car park.

And I'm out of here.

B Boru said...

Begorrah I'll get you for dat, Uncle Nasty!

Anonymous said...

Okay, Queenie's gone, so, back to reality.

I have read several essays by a fellow who calls himself "El Inglés".

This man is solid gold.

To reiterate ... we know where we are, and we have a pretty good idea of how we got here, so, where to from here?

Long-time readers are familiar with the writings of El Inglés. His lucid analyses of the self-destructive trajectory of the 21st-century West — particularly Britain — have been appearing in this space for almost four years.

His most controversial essay to date, “Surrender, Genocide… or What?”, was posted here a little over three years ago. Along with the LGF Wars several months prior to that, El Inglés’ masterwork was one of the major causes of our conversion to what I call “hard-eyed realism”.

Pajamas Media had an attack of the Screaming Nazi Heeber-Jeebers over the essay, and terminated our contract as a result. The shock helped purge us of any lingering fears about what might happen to us. There was nothing to be afraid of any longer — now we knew the worst that could befall us. We had been reviled and shunned, called “neo-Nazis”, “white supremacists”, and “bigots”, and were finally abandoned by our advertisers.

After that we had nothing left to lose. We were free.

And it’s been relatively clear sailing ever since.

If you read nothing else, please read this.

Uncle Nasty

Heraclitus said...

Not sure what point you're making UN. Is it that being cut off by Pyjamas is the worst that could have happened? If so I doubt that they should be so complacent. The amount of grief you'll incur will be directly proportional to the perceived 'damage' you're doing.

Anonymous said...

Heraclitus said...

Not sure what point you're making UN. Is it that being cut off by Pyjamas is the worst that could have happened?

Okay. I realise that I am inclined to include a bit too much extraneous clutter in my quotes ... so, please allow me to clarify.

The important thing in the El Ingles essays, is that he attempts to write a logical -- and quite possible -- future history.

Now, we all know where we're at.
But where we're going?

I feel it's a good thing to have as many road maps to a possible future as we can. 10 different possible future scenarios allows ten different maps.

As military strategists all know, no plan ever survives the first day intact. but, better having three or four possible strategies than none at all.

This is why I feel the essays have value.


Anonymous said...

The authorities shot I think six of the ringleaders.

Didn't some guy from Glasnevin sing about being able to see seven towers from his house?

All the Unionists I know are very proud of being BOTH Irish and British. (and I know an awful lot of them)

You are obviously not from The Potato University where they insist that the Irish government be responsible for giving British passports to people from the Republic.

Or who complain that they could not go to Croke Park with their Ulster banner whereas many people brought them to the Heineken Cup final in 1999 or to the Croke Park game against England.

Be happy that you do not know brain dead smart people. Some even have PhDs to prove that they know more and more about less and less until they do not know anything useful.

white fang said...

@aono 15.12....WTF are you on about????

Scratching my Head said...

Umm, yes, I feel much the same as you, White Fang.

Is someone on hallucinogenics?

Anonymous said...

Is someone on hallucinogenics?

What a dreadful thing to say about Queens University Belfast!

Anonymous said...

Sean the Leprechaun. I thought we are trying to wake up ALL White countries? Just because some of us reside in another doesn't mean that we can't try and shake up the sleepy ones in countries still predominantly White before it all goes to piss. THAT may be why Irish Americans try and tell Ireland what to do. Save a place before it gets to be the slathering hellhole America is now.

If you don't start turning the tables in Ireland NOW, you will NEVER get the chance. Look at America! Hordes of negroids running all over robbing, murdering and raping White women, children and men and the media doesn't talk about it. Ireland NEEDS a kick in the pants by the rest of us who have had to deal with these disgusting POS since they quit being segregated (which was necessary to keep White people from being victims of their crime.)

Get some of your gonads back White people!

And never foreget that the Royals and the Zionist Khazar Jews are all in this destruction together. You're fooling yourselves if you think the Royals don't have any power.

Anonymous said...

While we're on the subject of the royals, Franz posted some great quotes from Phil the Greek.

Here's more.

I really like that man.

In a similar vein:-

This guy is amazing.


Heraclitus said...

@anon 2.31. Exactly my sentiments. I for one take on board what you're saying about learning from America and our american friends about what we need to avoid. I'm saddened that some of this thread has degenerated into an internecine conflict, so to speak.