Monday, 10 January 2011

‘A civilised national debate’

We’re endlessly browbeaten by the so-called liberals in politics and the MSM into having a ‘civilised debate’, or a ‘decorous discourse’ on the issues that divide us. A good example lies with US Attorney General Eric Holder, a black interloper from the Caribbean, who referred to his benefactors as ‘a nation of cowards’ for not having the courage for such an interaction.

They also warn us against jumping to conclusions and targeting any ethnic or religious group. Thus even after the Ford Hood assassin was shown to have been a regular correspondent at jihadi web sites, and triumphantly shouted ‘Allah akbar’ after the killings, we were sternly enjoined from drawing premature conclusions or ‘stereotyping any religious or racial group’.

Ah yes. It could easily have been the Quakers I suppose.

Yet the victims in the recent Arizona massacre had hardly hit ground before the establishment were clambering over their bodies to link the perp with American Renaissance. Which they described, of course, as a white nationalist ‘hate site’. No problem here, notwithstanding the complete lack of any evidence, with drawing premature conclusions or ‘stereotyping any religious or racial group’.

Any unfortunate soul brave enough to venture onto the peecee reservation and point this out is howled down by these civilised discussion seekers. The Huffington Post or Daily Kos features dozens along the lines of ‘how dare you come onto this site to spew your hate’, followed by calls for the moderator to delete the unwelcome comments.

Such is their commitment to ‘a civilised national debate’.

I'm in Slovenia as the moment doing some work for a very large corporation. During a break I tried to log on to this (Irish Savant) site. Red flashing lights. I asked a colleague to translate.

Here’s what it said.

“It is contrary to [company X] Internet policy to access this site which features hate and discrimination. Additional access attempts will result in disciplinary action’.

Yeah – some debate, isn’t it?

73 comments:

Octopussy said...

I'm beside myself with rage after reading the pious crap in the MSM about having civilized debates. That doesn't mean I'm going to pick up a gun now and shoot some of them. But come to think of it, since they don't engage in dialogue, maybe I should :) That's a joke to all those wankers out there without a sense of humour. Anyway, if I were ever to shoot anyone it would be someone working in the MSM

Octopussy said...

Oh and let's not forget we can make this into a 'teachable moment' using six dead bodies and countless wounded. That's the last sarcasm from my side.

Jack Quinn said...

Savant, allow me to add a little back story to all this...I have a brother and a retired former work colleague who live close to Tuscon, AZ.

I have not encountered a single conservative who does not abhor the crime committed and the deranged shooter in this politicized tragedy. The liberal/socialist politicians and news media immediately attempted to spin the story that it is the "extremist right" in the U.S. that is to blame for the incident even before the congresswoman was out of surgery.

Even congresswoman Giffords Father joined in the fracas and blamed the "extremist Tea Party" movement.

Why this viciousness against the Tea Party?:

Answer: Because Representative Giffords is a standard democrat liberal and not a self-styled "Blue-Dog", Democrat. For the edification of Savants international following a Blue-Dog dem is a fiscally conservative as well as socially moderate to conservative politician found usually in the U.S. deep South. Giffords is no such thing.

Giffords was nearly defeated in November 2010 by a Tea Party Republican but prevailed by a mere 3,641 votes. Giffords won with less than 50% of the vote due to a Libertarian candidate siphoning 4% of the vote that surely would have gone to the Republican.

The liberals in AZ are using this as an opportunity to smear and demagogue because they are losing their grip on the electorate - the AZ 8th Congressional district is still 71% white; 20% hispanic & 9% other.

The police were not present in this shooting until after the fact. Two civilians, one of whom was armed (never drew his firearm) and had a concealed carry permit subdued the perp. When the cops finally did make the scene, it was with full-riot gear and automatic weapons and performed the usual pointless law-enforcement theater.

As I'm typing this Rush Limbaugh with his 20 million listeners is mercilessly hammering the libtard jackals.

Note to Savant: on the matter of online censorship, do what Vdare.com does when this problem crops up...threaten to sue the proprietors of the software program for libel not the user. Nearly every time the software company backs down.

Franz said...

Disclaimer: I have no sympathy for the shooter. Killing a nine-year old child is beyond the pale. My sincere hope ist that the gun toting lad will share a cell with an ill tempered Hell's Angel.

That being said, the whimpiness of the modern political elite never ceases to amaze me. The very congress critters who routinely cough up funding for various undeclared wars are surprised that one of them is being shot at?! Shouldn't they rather be surprised that they don't get shot at more often?

It really is a debateable feature of the democratic process that so called leaders order young soldiers to stop Afghan bullets with their chests, but shriek in panic as soon as one of their own class makes the acquaintance of a projectile.

Politicians remind me of schoolyard bullies: They are happy to boss everybody around. As soon as an intended victim hits back, the bully takes only nanoseconds to expose himself at a crybaby and promptly goes snitching to the headmaster.

You want to be leaders? You want to wield power? Well then. Remember Theodore Roosevelt who once gave a whole speech with a bullet in his chest.

There was a man.

Those who govern us nowadays are just bullies ... and crybabies.

VHG said...

The media also reported his "favorite books" and among them listed Mein Kampf. However they neglecting to include The Communist Manifesto which Loughner had on his list. Plus some other leftist stuff like gold backing the currency.

Octopussy said...

@VHG, exactly that same strategy is being used by the media here in South Africa. Only "Mein Kampf"is mentioned as his favourite read.

Tony in VA said...

That's the standard of professionalism at the Pima County Sheriff's office: take an investigation that is hours old, with a suspect about whom they know next to nothing, and use it to engage in baseless speculation to promote a political agenda.

Anonymous said...

Nice point Octopussy, which is probably why I enjoy being so rude.

Do I detect a note of panic from those that rule?

I was in South Africa when Anwar Sadat of Egypt got his arse handed to him, and remember as if it were yesterday -- watching P.W. Botha on the telly condemning this "act of violence (then very rushed) ... on public figures ..."

His face was grey and his hands were shaking like a leaf as he read from his notes. The man was publicly filling his knickers on SATV.

Now this ... slipped in under the radar.

Royal Family granted new right of secrecy.

Ol' Queenie-poo Bilderberger has done a bit of arm-twisting. in which " ... Letters, emails and documents relating to the monarch, her heir and the second in line to the throne will no longer be disclosed even if they are in the public interest.

http://tiny.cc/pnszj

Bit of pre-emptive damage control, eh, Queenie?

Expecting La Deluge, and Edward in the soup kitchen, are we?

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

J Schwartz said...

Good editorial in the WSJ:

"There's a climate of hate out there, all right, but it doesn't derive from the innocuous use of political clichés. And former Gov. Palin and the tea party movement are more the targets than the source.

American journalists know how to be exquisitely sensitive when they want to be. As the Washington Examiner's Byron York pointed out on Sunday, after Major Nidal Hasan shot up Fort Hood while shouting "Allahu Akhbar!" the press was full of cautions about not drawing premature conclusions about a connection to Islamist terrorism. "Where," asked Mr. York, "was that caution after the shootings in Arizona?"

Set aside as inconvenient, apparently. There was no waiting for the facts on Saturday. Likewise, last May New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and CBS anchor Katie Couric speculated, without any evidence, that the Times Square bomber might be a tea partier upset with the ObamaCare bill.

So as the usual talking heads begin their “have you no decency?” routine aimed at talk radio and Republican politicians, perhaps we should turn the question around. Where is the decency in blood libel?"

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703667904576071913818696964.html?mod=WSJ_newsreel_opinion

Anonymous said...

Coming to a cinema near you ... if it's not there already.

The tipping point approacheth ...

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/018377.html

"Danish government is prosecuting individuals for "hate speech"

I think it was Bette Davis who was famous for saying: "Fasten your seat belts ... we're in for a bumpy ride."

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

Instant pop quiz ...

how many people on the NG have ACTUALLY READ "Mein Kampff?

Clean through? Front to back?

Just asking. Don't worry, there won't be a quiz, afterwards.

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

"...... to link the perp with American Renaissance. Which they described, of course, as a white nationalist ‘hate site’."

Coincidentally, I recently linked an "Irish Savant" article HERE where Savant suddenly became persona non grata due to another poster, "dollycanadian", citing the following, thus having my comment removed:

"I am really surprised and disturbed that you would have given a forum for such a disturbed and racist person as Irish Savant. That man is dangerous and I do not agree with him at all."

I intend to do my mighty best to respond, but also invite Savant's readers to click the above link and exercise your "mighty pen" in the interests of free speech, and in defense of Irish Savant.

PaxCanadiana, who runs the website is doing a great job of confronting Canada's immigration problems (just like every other white, western nation), but "race" is the primary and unavoidable component that must be discussed, despite the deluded anti-racist types who toss "racist" barbs into the air whenever it suits them.

Anonymous said...

Very disappointing news from Denmark Why do you see this as such a significant development uncle nasty?

Anonymous said...

Debate in England is pipity -pip. Never seen such open, friendly and amicable debate about what's best for the English.
Besides the nationalist parliamentary candidate for Oldham being forcibly ejected from the hustings by costumed state agents that is. Gorra laugh.

Anonymous said...

"Very disappointing news from Denmark Why do you see this as such a significant development uncle nasty?"

I do not regard the news from Denmark --as any more significant than pretty much any of our postings over the last few weeks.

I just see it as another hated state intrusion that adds to the festering resentment felt by ordinary people the world over.

When things blow -- and blow they will -- the blast will be beyond measure.

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

Not too sure such thiings as in Denmark will lead to a blow. Could mean that the Danes will become more brainwashed into accepting this crap.

Anonymous said...

Franz: "My sincere hope is that the gun toting lad will share a cell with an ill tempered Hell's Angel."

What is even better is that in all probability he will share a cell with a run of the mill black criminal, if not right away then eventually. He will find out that jail in no place for a white boy.

Krokodil said...

What's the NG Uncle Nasty? 'Scuse my ignorance. Many years ago I tried reading Mein Kampf but it was seriously boooring!

However, that was in my 20's - now, much older and wiser...er, older at any rate - maybe I would find it a more interesting read. But I don't think I'm gonna rush out and grab a copy just yet.

However, one comment I would make, which possibly you were alluding to, is that the book (Mein Kampf) is not political pornography, as so many seem to think, but rather a treatise on the benefits of socialism, as opposed to capitalism, with nationalism added into the mix. If I've got that wrong, then let me know.

Interestingly, some rabbi quoted Mein Kampf (sorry, can't remember his name) and made the point that Hitler was quite right in seeing the Jews in Germany, at that time, as being out of proportion to their numbers in involvement in immoral practices such as prostitution, pornography etc. For the record, the rabbi in question was no fan of Hitler.

Franz, I have to agree with you about your assessment regarding the modern Western politician - pathetic men (and women - though who can tell the difference?) of straw!

We have cradle-to-grave professional footballers, golfers, motor-racing drivers, snooker-players etc. and, added to that mix, professional politicians.

Most all of the latter seem to emit the same oily, insincere guff slogans as their peers, be they "left" or "right" of the political spectrum.

I do respect some politicians, and not specifically for their political stance, but for their integrity. However, 99% do not number amongst these.

SAVANT said...

Note from the Control Room! I think it's been five comments on this post have so far been designated as spam by Google. I really am puzzled by this and would love to know if there's a Thought Police element to it. Especially as Uncle Nasty seems to fall foul of it disproportionally.

Anyway I've de-spammed them all

SAVANT said...

Jack Quinn. Much and all as I'd love to sue the bastards, I'm in NO POSITION to 'come out' and reveal my identity.

SAVANT said...

anon 2.14. Good work! I really would like other readers to respond to PaxCanadian. As you say he's doing good work but it's most disappointing to see him run for cover the way he does.

Maybe recommend this post of mine: http://irishsavant.blogspot.com/2008/01/is-this-racist-hate-site.html

Anonymous said...

"I'm beside myself with rage after reading the pious crap in the MSM about having civilized debates."

Octopussy wrote the above and I am disgusted, disgusted I tell you, that they let a man say "If they bring a knife to the fight, I bring a gun" and yet he was not responsible for the Gifford shooting but Sarah Palin was.

How can this be as she is not a Democrat but the shooter and shootee were! It is SEXIST and I look forward to our Senator from New York getting rid of this sexist reporting!

louis IX said...

Have you heard about that?
http://michaelcollinspiper.podbean.com/2011/01/10/the-piper-report-jan-10-2011/
The killer detail that the msm forgot to mention.
But not solid source yet.

Anonymous said...

So the shooter is Jewish? Surely not. Is there any evidence for this? If he is, well there are going to be a lot of red faces!

Louis IX said...

Something is wrong. Wikipedia statement about the victim, Rp Giffords:
"She has identified herself solely with Judaism since 2001, belonging to Congregation Chaverim, a Reform synagogue, in Tucson.[1][12] She is Arizona's first Jewish Congresswoman"

How come the, supposedly rightwing and therefore racist, wacco who commited the crime, has not been accused of antisemitism by the msm? if not for the reason given above.

Anonymous said...

Krokodil said...

What's the NG Uncle Nasty?

Far as I know, Krokodil, NG is the accepted abbreviation for "News Group" ... i.e., us.

My apologies, Savant. For the spam footprints. I have just completed three separate scans (cookies, malware and straight virus) but apart from a lot -- and I mean a lot of tracking cookies, nothing special was reported).

Please advise if the reported spam continues, and I will take further steps.

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

BTW ... for all posters ...

I have access to several totally free and legit anti-spam, anti-malware and anti-virus apps.

Should anyone want the download addresses and some recommendations, feel free to ask.

Savant's job is difficult enough as it is without us adding to the agony. :o)

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

Okay, back to business.

J. Schwartz posts a fascinating link to the hypocrisy of the left in their vituperative condemnation of what they perceive as "Right-Wing Hate Speech."

Link repeated here.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703667904576071913818696964.html?mod=WSJ_newsreel_opinion

Well, here is Michelle Malkin's take. Even more frightening, and living proof of the Left projecting their own prejudices and hatreds.

These are not rational people.

http://michellemalkin.com/

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty.

Oh, and thanks, Krokodil. I have not actually read Mein Kampf, myself. Life's too short.

SAVANT said...

it's no problem Uncle N. Just wondered why it's happening.......

Anonymous said...

"I suggested that Loughner is a madman who shot Giffords because she "disrespected" him by failing to answer his question in 2007. However since lots of people seem to prefer paranoia, can I suggest that Loughner shot Giffords because he is a liberal who dislikes George Bush?"

I just had to steal this because it makes as much sense as the irrational criticism of Sarah Palin

kulak said...

The usual suspects are being extremely unfair to Jared and American Renaissance.

kulak said...

@U.N.

how many people on the NG have ACTUALLY READ "Mein Kampff?

Clean through? Front to back?


Couldn't.

But I too had my lightning moment.

Anonymous said...

Hey there Kulak ... as one location dog to another, welcome back and thanks for the link.

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

kulak said...

Now here is some very, VERY funny news.

You can't make this stuff up.

kulak said...

But I understand many Jewish individuals aren't so disturbed. ba-da-bump.

kulak said...

...and therfore...

Q: When is a jewish group not a Jewish Group?
A: When it's not disturbed.

kulak said...

Now there's at least three ways that's funny.

And it's the WHOLE of the jewish question, boiled down to two lines.

Scientifically one can't actually disambiguate causality for the West's mess -- jews didn't have a country of their own for thousands of years.

But that's not a problem.

Because I don't have to.

I don't have to, because I know what is right.

I don't have to, because I know what is white.

Krokodil said...

Kulak, the "funny news" link you provided shows how Jews, or at least American Jews, are obsessed with slights real and imagined against themselves.

Why should everyone be an "expert" on which terminology offends, or might offend, Jews? What makes them so special?

There's too much going on in the West where, apparently, one's point of reference has to start, and be guided by, views and relations toward Jews. Are the Jews themselves aware of this? If not, it just shows how self-absorbed and self-obsessed they are.

As I've said elsewhere, I'm not anti-joo etc. etc. - but that we all have to make special allowance for not offending them in particular, well, it's getting really irritating!

And, yes, it's the kind of invented "issue" you couldn't make up.

Anonymous said...

"So the shooter is Jewish? Surely not. Is there any evidence for this? If he is, well there are going to be a lot of red faces!" 21:59 11 Jan

13 January the shooter is not Jewish only has a Jewish granny like Hillary Clinton did.
Why did it take so long for this fact to come out is people knew it was wrong?
That is right they were too busy scoring political points. Oh it is Sarah Palin's fault because she used reticles on the seats that the Republicans were targeting whereas the Democrats were using bullseyes which meant that people were to understand that it was a call for them to be shot on her part. Imagine the reaction if anyone were to suggest that it was all right for a well known White Sox fan to say nah nah nah your grand daughter got murdered. People would be apoplectic at the bad behaviour of baseball fans. (Note Plural was deliberately used)

What a bunch of morons our MSM is.

Tony in VA said...

Yes indeed! Lovely lovely lovely! And it seems that his 'friends' have insisted that his views were actually left-wing!Just can's wait to see them eat crow.

Tony in VA said...

Krokodil says Why should everyone be an "expert" on which terminology offends, or might offend, Jews? What makes them so special?

The answer is that they've cornered the genocide market.

Anonymous said...

Tony in VA said...

"The answer is that they've cornered the genocide market."

I have seen this behaviour before. Terry Pratchett once referred to it as: "Dancing in the light of their burning bridges ..."

I travelled Europe in the early seventies and was, frankly, amazed at how appallingly the kids behaved.

A European person that I asked about this, said -- in her opinion -- that the kids were overindulged (spoiled rotten, in truth) because of their parent's perceived guilt over WWII.

At the miniature village of Madurodam in Holland, I watched a four or five year old kid kick, punch and elbow his way to the front of one of the exhibits. There wasn't enough room for him, so he turned around and started kicking the shins of adults -- and other kids -- to clear a space.

One of the adults, goaded beyond measure, then leaned down and gave the monster a hearty adult-portion slap on the side of the head that must have made the bells ring.

The look of shock and utter disbelief on the face of the little shitweasel is one that I shall treasure until my dying day.

One can only assume that, similarly, when a particular group (or tribe -- your choice) has been able to get a free ride for a generation or two or three or four or more, that their sense of entitlement becomes so huge that they simply cannot believe it when that great big Flat-Of-The-Hand swoops down.

What with very well-justified as well as totally ridiculous anti-semitism teaming up worldwide, the Tribe must be feeling like that nasty little kid ... and are falling back on the tried and trusted incantations that got them off the hook and earned them a very, very good living for the last three generations ...

'$hoah©!! Holocau$t©!! Bel$en©! $obibor©!! Nat$i©!! Raci$$$©!!

... but it wears thin, now, and people are not hearing as well as they used to.

And a lot of those who can still hear are not listening.

I sometimes wonder if any of the tribe ever stop to think if a totally destroyed west is such a good thing for them?

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

Amazing what you find ...

Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee

Read the article and note the usual suspects popping up again and again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Anti-Fascist_Committee

... and living proof that sufficient Political Correctness can be injurious to your health:-

http://tiny.cc/sotl8

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

Quoting myself, which is very bad manners, but I just had a thought.

"I sometimes wonder if any of the tribe ever stop to think if a totally destroyed west is such a good thing for them?

Many posters have said words to the effect of "The jews are the best we have ... we should ally ourselves with them/Protect them/Help them."

Fair enough, however, considering what awaits the chosen race without the buffer of western civilization ... maybe they should recognise just who their friends are ...

... and ally themselves with us, once in a while. Or are they not quite as bright as everyone says?

Just a thought.

Uncle Nasty

Robert said...

Time to visit America.

http://thugreport.com/

Anonymous said...

One gets the impression that the left's attempt to get some useful political spin on the Arizona shooting has backfired catastrophically.

Check this out ...

"Translating NYT Editorialese into English.

At:- http://tiny.cc/emsx1

It's a nifty on-the-nose translation of lefty rhetoric into truth.

Enjoy,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

Hi there ... a revised address regarding my last post. This one puts it into better context ...

http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2011/01/13/translating-editorialese-into-english/

... and for those of you who could use a laugh, a link to the karamel-koloured klutz -- also known as the First Boog as he attempts a little damage control:-

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/4540272/Obama-leads-mourning-of-shooting-victims

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty.

Anonymous said...

It's truly amazing that in the US the MSM is totally and utterly shameless in not acknowledging their original accusations. It's just been skipped over as if nobody had said anything.

Anonymous said...

Re UN link - I'm sure the current masters of political discourse would like to see the same sanctions applied as those in Russia at that time.

Anonymous said...

That's a great link to the vDare and the NYT translation. yes indeed - it's noble to call for moving on from viscious accusations when you yourself are the ones that made them.

Chutzpah!

Anonymous said...

Robert said...

Time to visit America.

http://thugreport.com/

Indeed, Robert ... entering the U.S.A. from a different portal, so to speak:-

http://www.newnation.org/

As well as a side trip to the U.K. -- Here:-

http://www.iamanenglishman.com/rogues_gallery.php

and here:-

http://www.iamanenglishman.com/rogues_gallery2.php

I am sure, although I have never seen one, that there must be several in the more diversified parts of Europe.

Oh, and for the lefty trolls that visit the NG ... I am more than happy to visit any equivalent white on black crime sites. So ... apart from the MSM, (I don't do fiction) please send us a few.

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"It's truly amazing that in the US the MSM is totally and utterly shameless in not acknowledging their original accusations. It's just been skipped over as if nobody had said anything."

I, too, all my life had been astonished by the sheer brazenness of those who lie repeatedly ... until I went to court one day for a traffic ticket.

Sitting in the gallery, waiting for my case to come up, I was amazed at the embarrassing, childish, lame-arsed excuses tendered by the defendants and accepted without comment by the magistrate and prosecutor.

I had not heard such lame crap since my schooldays ... and these were supposed adults.

I then made the mistake of my career -- and pled guilty.
They threw the book at me ... three times the fine that anyone else got. My ghast, as they say, was flabbered.

That afternoon, an older and wiser workmate kindly explained the facts of life to me.
He pointed out that if everyone pled guilty -- as I just did -- then there would be no jobs for judges, lawyers, magistrates, counsels, solicitors, prosecutors, public defenders, the legislature, etc., etc.

The system would go, in a word, poof. It is built on, relies on and is constructed of, lies.
He recommended that I consider this a lesson in the realities of life.

Now .. apply that to all facets of government, and now you know why we are, where we are.

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

For those who have an interest in the Arizona shooting -- and I freely admit that I am one -- you will find this most illuminating.

Many non-Americans are under the impression that there are no laws governing the ownership of firearms in America. This could not be further from the truth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_States

and a loooong one here:-

http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

I will also admit -- up front -- that I firmly believe in the right of every citizen to keep and bear arms. By "citizen" I mean non-felon and non-lunatic.

That is to say if are you are not a psychopath; violent criminal; hopeless drunk; dole, welfare or benefit monkey; politician or drug addict, then you are a citizen. And citizens own and bear arms.

"Citizens" who are not allowed firearms ownership -- and accept this state of affairs -- are not citizens.

They are serfs.

Onwards.

http://tiny.cc/npudj

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

I've seen this thug report. Might be a silly question, but does it focus only on black criminals? I say this because if it does it loses some of its impact. The majority would be black anyway.

kerdasi amaq said...

From the Pravda ru forum:

Originally Posted by Zharkov
But a Congresswoman is a terrible mind to waste.

Good thing her brain wasn't injured by having a bullet hole in it.

Maybe it will grow back.


Ancient nation says:

...she was a zionist jew...and an abortionist.....part of the elite politicos that destroyed america....the death penalty...arizona style......but the woman was brainless...the bullet went through without killing her...

That made me laugh.

Krokodil said...

Uncle Nasty, re your comment 21:48, have you ever read Gulliver's Travels?

The author, Jonathan Swift, basically says the same thing regarding the legal system as your comment does - except, of course, he made his comment back in the 1730's, I think it was.

Interesting that, isn't it?

Anonymous said...

This is interesting:-

25 WAYS OF SUPPRESSING THE TRUTH - THE RULES OF DISINFORMATION

http://wiganpatriot.blogspot.com/2011/01/25-ways-of-suppressing-truth-rules-of.html

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I've seen this thug report. Might be a silly question, but does it focus only on black criminals?

Pop back to the sites and scroll down ... you'll find the occasional token whitey.

Those will be the WLB's and coal burners.

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

This is weird ... but fascinating. The Law of Unintended Consequences strike again. Biting the ungodly on the bum.

Having watched it, ask yourself which tribe moves heaven and earth to push gun confiscation?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDwA_NWVTJM&feature=related

I would really really recommend you watch it ... and I would really like an opinion.

I'm flummoxed.

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

clogheen said...

Uncle Nasty - this is a great point about the judicial system. Here in ireland it's well known that if you go imto court without a solicitor your chances of getting a favourable judgement are reduced and any resulting fine will equate to twice the solicitors' fee.

H Lone said...

Uncle Nasty: Re this, dare I say it, vid of the yid, or will Savant strike me down? Anyway, the JDL is not a typical Jewish organisation. It's really right-wing and has strong links with the settler movement in Israel. So there's not as much of a disconnect as it appears.

Anonymous said...

Going further on Civilised National Debate"

Go here: http://fredoneverything.net/KingGeorge2.shtml

I've done most of this. Your kids never will. Chances are you never have and never will.

Find out who caused this. Then talk to them. Use harsh language and teaching aids if necessary.

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

H Lone said...

" ... the JDL is not a typical Jewish organisation. It's really right-wing and has strong links with the settler movement in Israel."

While I do accept the notion of right-wing jews, just as I have to accept the notion of lefty-lib South Africans and commie Rhodesians, it conjures up some really weird images. Six sided swastikas? IDF troops goose-stepping down the Champs-Élysées?

Seriously though, several of my jewish friends could fill the position admirably.

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Sorry, after some small research on wikipedia, I find:-

" ... it was characterized as "a right-wing terrorist group" by the Federal Bureau of Investigation[3] in 2001, and as a hate group involved in "anti-Arab terrorism" by the Southern Poverty Law Center."

Damn. I could almost like these guys.

UN

Anonymous said...

Clogheen and Krokodil. It goes back even further, folks.

Dick:
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.
Cade:
Nay, that I mean to do.

Henry The Sixth, Part 2 Act 4, scene 2, 71–78.
William Shakespeare

nemesis said...

The rest of us could learn from the JDL. Leaving the double standards aside, they're doing exactly what the rest of us should do. Shamelessly promote our own salvation as an ethnie/race.

Anonymous said...

Just for fun ... You like conspiracy theories?
Here's thirty of the buggers to get your teeth into.

http://tiny.cc/j6l0r

I make no comment on any of them.

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

This is ... interesting.

I am unaware of the facts, so I post the link and ask that you read and make up your own minds.

Go Here:-

http://www.oldholborn.net/

Scroll down to:-

a civilised Revolution

Tell me watcha think.

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

Please go here:-

http://captainranty.blogspot.com/

Scroll down to:

Tommy Tiernan Solves The Debt Problem

I like this fellow. Right at the end he asks the question I keep asking ...

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

@Uncle Nasty. You're the man when it comes to interesting links.

Anonymous said...

This link about Tunisia is VERRRRY interesting. Let it roll!

Anonymous said...

Clogheen and Krokodil. It goes back even further, folks.

Dick:
The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.
Cade:
Nay, that I mean to do.

Henry The Sixth, Part 2 Act 4, scene 2, 71–78.
William Shakespeare


Sorry, I guess I should have signed that. Getting old(er).

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

Highly recommend this site. Lots of thoughtful comment.

A sample:-

... The socialist meeting an obstacle in his transformation of society need not clarify logic or make more seductive appeals to the customer – he need only apply greater force or more terrifying threats.

“Did you not understand me, Comrade? Allow me to speak louder.”


http://www.washingtonreb.com/

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

Further to the troubles in Tunis ...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110116/wl_nm/us_jordan_protests_islamists

Oops.

Cheers,

Uncle Nasty

Anonymous said...

Yes, I think we can expect a lot of developments in the rest of the Arab world. Wikileaks is producing something after all.