Monday, 2 June 2008

Dhimmi Britain. How bad can it get?

You could hardly make this up as an example of the depths of dhimmitude that pervades much of the UK and particularly Birmingham. Two Christian evanglelist preachers (pictured below) have been banned from handing out Christian pamphlets in a Muslim area of Birmingham. In fact, they have been threatened, by a police officer, with arrest for committing a "hate crime" if they return to the area, the Telegraph tells us.


"He said we were in a Muslim area and were not allowed to spread our Christian message. He said we were committing a hate crime by telling the youths to leave Islam and said that he was going to take us to the police station."

The officer further went on to tell the men if they returned and got beaten - it was their own fault: "The ministers claim he also advised them not to return to the area. As he walked away, the PCSO said: "You have been warned. If you come back here and get beaten up, well you have been warned".

Great to see the forces of "Law And Order" are so much on top of things.

All this at a time when Schools Secretary Ed Balls (they named him well) wants to implement a programme that would insert Muslim clerics into all British schools so that pupils would learn about the Koran and Islam in the context of a multicultural society (yugh!).

Thus across the country all British children will be given instruction about Islam. And not just instructions, of course. They'll be given unalloyed progranda on the Religion of Peace. Meanwhile Christians are being threatened with arrest for "hate crimes" and jailtime for discussing and professing their religion.

Anybody got a suggestion as to how soon we can expect a reprise in Ireland?

Oh, I forgot! We have Conor Lenihan with his finger in the dyke. No need to worry.

9 comments:

Mariner said...

It wont be long at all. These preachers of Islam are certainly more aggressive and it takes a knowledge of the Bible to show them where they are wrong. Sadly because Christianity is so mocked and few people really have any in-depth knowledge of the Bible - or indeed what moslems actually believe, they cannot withstand their onslaught. One way to tackle them is to ask them a question about contradictions in the Qu'ran;

In Sura 2:2 we read, “There is no doubt in this book.” (Sale) But such certainly cannot be said about the Muslim commentators on the Quran. All of which is a tacit admission that discrepancies are real and do not merely seem to be such because of lack of faith or lack of understanding by the “infidels”.

If the Imans cannot agree on what or what is not inspired, how does the Quran withstand close scrutiny?

You can bet your sweet ass though, there is no way someone with in-depth knowledge of the Bible will be allowed to counter Islamic beliefs in any school anywhere or be allowed to teach moslem children.

Rhein said...

How soon will probably depend on how people vote on the EU referendum this june. A "yes" would mean very soon.

And the "officer" who harassed the two preachers was a muslim. It explains the situation a bit.

Rhein said...

Here's a good article on the EU referendum.

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/06/it-is-in-irelands-hands-now.html#readfurther

Spider, said...

YOu think thats bad, check out this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/jun/03/uksecurity.islam

Money Money Money....which isn't being spent on education or hospitals. Here's an idea, lock up the criminals, or deport them, and use the money for essential services.

blu sn!pr said...

What are the odds that the community police officer is a Muslim?

Anonymous said...

Savant
You really think that's bad? At least the Muslim policeman was doing what he believed in.

This is Michele Hanson in The Guardian today giving us the liberal angle on free speech and religious liberty:

"Two American Christian preachers have been told off by a community police officer for preaching in a Muslim area of Birmingham. Good. If only preachers were banned everywhere. The Jews don't try to convert anyone. They are not at all keen on converts, so perhaps preachers should take a leaf out of their book, because no one likes to be told that their beliefs are rubbish and someone else's are better. Is there anything more annoying than people coming to your street or your house uninvited and pushing their ideas down your throat? I was trained from an early age to detest it. My father would open the door and my mother would throw tennis balls at them from behind him - an unconventional but effective response.

The two rejected Birmingham preachers have been moaning about human rights and their freedom of expression, but preaching and American missionary-style "spreading God's word" is more about bossing than expressing. They're convinced they're right. But does anyone dare tell them off? Off they go, all over the world, come across a culture that's minding its own business, with its own perfectly adequate belief system, and insist on imposing their own ideas. What a cheek. Who am I to criticize? I must practice what I preach. So believe what you like, everyone, but leave the rest of us alone. We can make our own minds up" [but you couldn't make THAT up!!}

Do you realise that when the chips are really down the American Evangelicals - plus rednecks and reactionaries everywhere- are the ONLY ones who will fight? Guardian liberals are already justifying their surrender to the Islamic brand of fascism!

Rory

Rhein said...

"The Jews don't try to convert anyone. They are not at all keen on converts, so perhaps preachers should take a leaf out of their book, because no one likes to be told that their beliefs are rubbish and someone else's are better."


I think Joseph Abraham, one of the two preachers, is Jewish. ^^

SAVANT said...

Blusniper - the policeman WAS a Muslim!!

blu sn!pr said...

I wrote that before I read the comments! The giveaway was that he was a community officer.